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« on: July 13, 2024, 02:25:38 PM »

I hope this video comes through. I just ordered the coolest water gun I have ever seen. The reviews states that whatever you hit GETS SOAKED. I can’t wait. Swipe left a few times until you get to the video

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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2024, 02:33:39 PM »

 cooldude Grin 2funny
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2024, 03:28:15 PM »

     Pretty expensive water pistol. I KNOW I'm gittin older BUT don't believe I ever spent more than 50 cents on a water pistol. But I gotta admit looks like a heap of fun!  cooldude RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2024, 03:29:42 PM »

    Pretty expensive water pistol. I KNOW I'm gittin older BUT don't believe I ever spent more than 50 cents on a water pistol. But I gotta admit looks like a heap of fun!  cooldude RIDE SAFE.

When you are overrun by feral cats this is a small investment
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2024, 04:43:07 PM »

    Pretty expensive water pistol. I KNOW I'm gittin older BUT don't believe I ever spent more than 50 cents on a water pistol. But I gotta admit looks like a heap of fun!  cooldude RIDE SAFE.

When you are overrun by feral cats this is a small investment

    And animal control cant do anything and as a W A G you ain't allowed to use lethal force-22 caliber-inside city limits? Well good luck on eleiminating those feral felines!  cooldude RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2024, 07:33:57 PM »

Aguilla makes subsonic .22 in Colibri (400 fps) and Super Colibri (600 fps) (both with 20 gr bullets instead of usual 40 gr .22s, and both powered by only the primer, no gunpowder), that is quieter than a pellet gun from a rifle/carbine.  No hearing protection necessary.  Aguilla says they are only to be used with pistols so the slugs don't lodge in the barrel.  Thousands of rounds through my Ruger 10-22 Sporter (18.5" barrel), and not one ever lodged in the barrel.  Range is limited from standard .22 ammo, but back yard distances are fine (and lethal). 

They must be popular because they are very hard to find in stock. 

They will take care of your problem. 
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2024, 05:37:18 AM »

I being a rural resident, I've used my Hatsun .177 air rifle and the 10-22 take down rabbits at night. During the day,  26" full choke 870 12 gauge. We had a infestation this year but the past 2 wks. they have disappeared. Our 25 lb. Rat Terrior mutt instantly kills all she catches but I don't think she's been that busy.

On a note, last time I used the trapping method a skunk was my prize and the theory that a head shot prevents spraying, BS. I always relocate all the catch's at least 7mi. away but not that time.

The .177 Hatsun shoots a very quiet 1300 fps.
  
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2024, 05:23:05 AM »

I being a rural resident, I've used my Hatsun .177 air rifle and the 10-22 take down rabbits at night. During the day,  26" full choke 870 12 gauge. We had a infestation this year but the past 2 wks. they have disappeared. Our 25 lb. Rat Terrior mutt instantly kills all she catches but I don't think she's been that busy.

On a note, last time I used the trapping method a skunk was my prize and the theory that a head shot prevents spraying, BS. I always relocate all the catch's at least 7mi. away but not that time.

The .177 Hatsun shoots a very quiet 1300 fps.
  
https://hatsanairgunsusa.com/product/airtact/

nice looking pellet gun for sure for 130 bucks.   I bought a gamo one years on black friday deal, very powerful as well but had I known it was heavier and LOUDER than any .22 around (is as heavy as my ruger m77 .3006 rifle or heavier) , I might have opted instead for one lighter and much much quieter.

so tempted last night to run into the house and shoot the 2 rabbits in backyard.  my town is overrun with rabbits everyday driving around the next street I see 1-2 rabbits crossing the road, pretty soon rabbit crossing signs will take the place of deer crossing signs? 
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2024, 05:42:06 AM »



The .177 Hatsun shoots a very quiet 1300 fps.

  
https://hatsanairgunsusa.com/product/airtact/

 cooldude

I'm on the waiting list for the .177. I like the looks and it's quiet and you recommend it. Probably won't work on the armadillo's around here, maybe drive them away but just looks like fun to shoot. Thanks for the link.  coolsmiley
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2024, 07:36:03 AM »



The .177 Hatsun shoots a very quiet 1300 fps.

  
https://hatsanairgunsusa.com/product/airtact/

 cooldude

I'm on the waiting list for the .177. I like the looks and it's quiet and you recommend it. Probably won't work on the armadillo's around here, maybe drive them away but just looks like fun to shoot. Thanks for the link.  coolsmiley


I already have one of those. It is fun to shoot, but they won’t just scare the cats away. Not that that’s a bad thing but, you know

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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2024, 04:01:21 PM »

I bought a spendy RWS Diana spring piston air rifle (in .22 for stopping power), but all supersonic air rifles make an unmistakable snapping noise to anyone who knows what they are hearing, and for quite a distance too (in places where firing anything, including a slingshot, is a misdemeanor). 

My .22 rifles with subsonic Aguila Colibri are much quieter than any supersonic air rifle. 

No snap, just a quiet thuut.
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2024, 07:51:36 PM »

I bought a spendy RWS Diana spring piston air rifle (in .22 for stopping power), but all supersonic air rifles make an unmistakable snapping noise to anyone who knows what they are hearing, and for quite a distance too (in places where firing anything, including a slingshot, is a misdemeanor). 

My .22 rifles with subsonic Aguila Colibri are much quieter than any supersonic air rifle. 

No snap, just a quiet thuut.

The air gun pictured has a silencer barrel. It does a pretty good job of lessening the crack.
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2024, 08:24:46 PM »

I saw that.   Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2024, 05:28:13 AM »

I bought a spendy RWS Diana spring piston air rifle (in .22 for stopping power), but all supersonic air rifles make an unmistakable snapping noise to anyone who knows what they are hearing, and for quite a distance too (in places where firing anything, including a slingshot, is a misdemeanor). 

My .22 rifles with subsonic Aguila Colibri are much quieter than any supersonic air rifle. 

No snap, just a quiet thuut.

Is it even America if you can’t even shoot a slingshot!?!?

I practice with my slingshot, crossbow and pellet gun anytime I want as many shots as I want. Inside city limits and I sure it’s perfectly legal.
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2024, 07:52:39 AM »

I bought a spendy RWS Diana spring piston air rifle (in .22 for stopping power), but all supersonic air rifles make an unmistakable snapping noise to anyone who knows what they are hearing, and for quite a distance too (in places where firing anything, including a slingshot, is a misdemeanor). 

My .22 rifles with subsonic Aguila Colibri are much quieter than any supersonic air rifle. 

No snap, just a quiet thuut.

Is it even America if you can’t even shoot a slingshot!?!?

I practice with my slingshot, crossbow and pellet gun anytime I want as many shots as I want. Inside city limits and I sure it’s perfectly legal.

Got me curious, so I looked it up... Sadly, it's not.

City of Crestview Florida code of ordinances Section 54-3 "Weapons, discharge of"

"Whoever discharges within the corporate limits of the city any firearm, air rifle, slingshot, rock thrower, or bow and arrow, without being in defense of limb, life or property, except in a place duly authorized and licensed by the city, shall be punished as provided by section 1-11."

https://library.municode.com/fl/crestview/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=PTIICOOR_CH54OFMIPR_S54-3WEDIOF
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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2024, 09:25:39 AM »

I bought a spendy RWS Diana spring piston air rifle (in .22 for stopping power), but all supersonic air rifles make an unmistakable snapping noise to anyone who knows what they are hearing, and for quite a distance too (in places where firing anything, including a slingshot, is a misdemeanor). 

My .22 rifles with subsonic Aguila Colibri are much quieter than any supersonic air rifle. 

No snap, just a quiet thuut.


Is it even America if you can’t even shoot a slingshot!?!?

I practice with my slingshot, crossbow and pellet gun anytime I want as many shots as I want. Inside city limits and I sure it’s perfectly legal.

Got me curious, so I looked it up... Sadly, it's not.

City of Crestview Florida code of ordinances Section 54-3 "Weapons, discharge of"

"Whoever discharges within the corporate limits of the city any firearm, air rifle, slingshot, rock thrower, or bow and arrow, without being in defense of limb, life or property, except in a place duly authorized and licensed by the city, shall be punished as provided by section 1-11."

https://library.municode.com/fl/crestview/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=PTIICOOR_CH54OFMIPR_S54-3WEDIOF

Well! Thank you very little. I may have to move now. However, I doubt our over worked and under staffed police want to waste time on busting someone for shooting a pellet gun in their back yard.
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2024, 10:56:07 AM »

It can be done safely and quietly Jeff (as I'm sure you know) .  

But one always needs to be careful of his shot (backstop, skips, yada) (as I'm sure you know).  We have walkers and runners and bicycles and families outside all the time, and I never shoot with people around or cars driving by.  

I have a couple of contiguous neighbors who know it happens, but I am a good neighbor to them all, help them if they ask, and give them no axe to grind.  But if you have any neighbors who are not friendly or friends, you have to not give them any reason to give you trouble.  (as I'm sure you know).

One neighbor even throws the squirrels who were shot in my yard, but died in his yard back over my fence.  Such a thoughtful man (and my best neighbor by far).  Smiley

That Crestview ordinance is practically identical to mine.   moon   Grin

The cops may not want to mess with this, but if they get a formal compliant, they will likely show up to talk about it.  Be nice, but never admit anything (as I'm sure you know).
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2024, 11:31:49 AM »

We live in an area that the sound of shotgun fire is normal. It’s not the noise I’m worried about. Many of the houses in my neighborhood have been turned into rental properties. The implants (Yankees) from up north and whatever you call them from out west may not be used to our ways. So yes I’m very careful. I think the number of “Karens” is no doubt increasing.
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2024, 03:46:14 PM »

I think the number of “Karens” is no doubt increasing.

Sad but true, everywhere. 
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2024, 05:06:01 PM »

We live in an area that the sound of shotgun fire is normal. It’s not the noise I’m worried about. Many of the houses in my neighborhood have been turned into rental properties. The implants (Yankees) from up north and whatever you call them from out west may not be used to our ways. So yes I’m very careful. I think the number of “Karens” is no doubt increasing.

Let's see; I was born in Brooklyn, Air Force in Kansas and over 52 years in AZ. I'm certainly no "Karen". I think of myself as an American. Not a yankee or "whatever" from out West. Thanks for throwing insults on here. So you understand "implants"; they come there wealthy and keep the local economy strong without consuming jobs so the locals can make a living and have nicer communities as they also pay taxes.

My best friend use to live in Sarasota and I've spent many vacations there. Rode my 1st Valk there twice all the way to Key West so I'm familiar with Florida.

You being a Christian, I would think you would have more compassion for feral cats and help them as I would do. They can't help their plight.

My age prevents me from traveling on 2 wheels anymore so not many of you will meet me.

Thanks for reading; Sandy
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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2024, 05:30:19 PM »

Well not everyone that moved to Florida from somewhere else fits my description. However, a few in our area definitely do. Why do folks that escape undesirable conditions try to duplicate those conditions  wherever they go? Anyway, I have the same compassion for feral cats as I have for feral pigs. They aren’t pets. They are harmful, carry diseases and are being enabled to overpopulate by folks like you that seem to feel sorry for them.  Their population needs to be drastically reduced. Thats the nicest way I can put it.

I meant no insult to anyone based solely on where they are from. But when they come to a free state and complain we don’t follow rules they are used to it is irritating
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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2024, 05:28:38 AM »

Not sure if you yourself has the feral cat issue or if it’s a city/town issue.

Many years ago when we moved into our home there was an issue with wild cats. I called the local animal shelter and they let me have a Have-A-Heart trap but once I captured a cat they’d take the trap and said I had to wait a week or more to get another.

I bought my own trap and started capturing cats. They’d send a person over and transfer the cat into a larger cage. I caught about 2 dozen cats over about 30 days and gave a $20.00 donation every time for any “expenses” they’d incur.

There were rules about trapping, it was only suppose be done between dawn and dusk but the cats were not out at that time, so I’d trap them at night and check before going to bed or if I was up in the wee hours. The cat would then go into the garage, on top of a thick layer of newspaper and some fresh water innthe bowl that was already in the cage and a small electric heater outside the cage blowing warm air into the cage.

Not sure how your system works where you are, it’s just food for thought.
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« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2024, 05:54:22 AM »

Not sure if you yourself has the feral cat issue or if it’s a city/town issue.

Many years ago when we moved into our home there was an issue with wild cats. I called the local animal shelter and they let me have a Have-A-Heart trap but once I captured a cat they’d take the trap and said I had to wait a week or more to get another.

I bought my own trap and started capturing cats. They’d send a person over and transfer the cat into a larger cage. I caught about 2 dozen cats over about 30 days and gave a $20.00 donation every time for any “expenses” they’d incur.

There were rules about trapping, it was only suppose be done between dawn and dusk but the cats were not out at that time, so I’d trap them at night and check before going to bed or if I was up in the wee hours. The cat would then go into the garage, on top of a thick layer of newspaper and some fresh water innthe bowl that was already in the cage and a small electric heater outside the cage blowing warm air into the cage.

Not sure how your system works where you are, it’s just food for thought.

We have worked with the city. Trapped and delivered. They fix them and release back into the same area. The cats are everywhere. Now the city can’t take any more, full. So my only option is to make it miserable for them on my property so they choose to bother someone else. The ones that are mean and threaten us or our pets get different treatment.
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« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2024, 05:36:55 PM »

I used Have a Heart traps to catch squirrels (peanut butter bait). (hundreds)

I dumped the traps in Rubbermaid garbage cans full of water.  They were gone humanely in seconds.

The first time I did this i discovered the doors opened when the traps went sideways into the water, and the squirrel shot out of the water and climbed/clawed my face.

Thereafter, both doors got vice gripped shut before the short swim.  Worked like a charm.

I Walmart bagged the carcasses and put them in my freezers and made squirrel pop-sickles until garbage day (reducing garbage can maggots to zero in high heat weather).

In my heyday, I was running two traps and catching 4-12 every day, for months.  That thinned them out.

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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2024, 05:09:46 AM »

Not sure if you yourself has the feral cat issue or if it’s a city/town issue.

Many years ago when we moved into our home there was an issue with wild cats. I called the local animal shelter and they let me have a Have-A-Heart trap but once I captured a cat they’d take the trap and said I had to wait a week or more to get another.

I bought my own trap and started capturing cats. They’d send a person over and transfer the cat into a larger cage. I caught about 2 dozen cats over about 30 days and gave a $20.00 donation every time for any “expenses” they’d incur.

There were rules about trapping, it was only suppose be done between dawn and dusk but the cats were not out at that time, so I’d trap them at night and check before going to bed or if I was up in the wee hours. The cat would then go into the garage, on top of a thick layer of newspaper and some fresh water innthe bowl that was already in the cage and a small electric heater outside the cage blowing warm air into the cage.

Not sure how your system works where you are, it’s just food for thought.

We have worked with the city. Trapped and delivered. They fix them and release back into the same area. The cats are everywhere. Now the city can’t take any more, full. So my only option is to make it miserable for them on my property so they choose to bother someone else. The ones that are mean and threaten us or our pets get different treatment.

I didn’t realize the city was releasing them back out, I thought they were euthanized.

The main reason I began trapping them was because there was constant cat crap in my yard and between cutting and raking it was always a mess.

We did catch several kittens which we brought in, washed with medicated soaps for fleas and such and got them adopted. Hundreds of fleas off each one and multiple washes. Some good food and store bought deworming products helped too.

While they were kept in the garage it didn’t take long for the kittens to adapt to neing fed, using a litter box and trusting us to touch and play with them.
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2024, 05:44:22 AM »

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I didn’t realize the city was releasing them back out, I thought they were euthanized.

We were upset to hear that, actually we didn’t believe it. At first the city actually denied it. After persistent checking we got the truth. It’s called TNR (trap, neuter, release). Now we have feline AIDS and feline Covid in the feral cat community due to overpopulation and no vet care. These diseases aren’t transmittable to humans (yet) but can infect dogs. We have to be very careful with our dog.

THESE PESTS NEED TO BE EUTHANIZED
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« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2024, 06:51:28 PM »

The water Gatling gun arrived today. Waiting two hours for the battery to charge was excruciating only to discover the darned thing is defective. It’s being sent back.

We will try again!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2024, 07:58:25 PM »

A Paint ball gun will send them away and mark them so you know which ones are more troublesome. Park Ranger’s use this method on Bears. Repeat Offenders get (relocated).
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« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2024, 04:50:53 AM »

A Paint ball gun will send them away and mark them so you know which ones are more troublesome. Park Ranger’s use this method on Bears. Repeat Offenders get (relocated).

We like that idea too but these things are fast. Easy to  miss with a paint ball. Easy to hit the neighbors car. And. Less plausible deniability. Animals get wet all the time. Water is water  cooldude
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« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2024, 05:44:53 AM »

Paintball gun ammo also comes in hot pepper. 

I never had one, but I'd rather have pepper than paint ammo. 
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« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2024, 07:34:25 AM »

I know  a few  people  that need  to be  euthanized  2funny
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« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2024, 09:25:10 AM »

I know it sounds like hippy granola eating BS, but TNR really is one of the most effective means of controlling feral cat populations. Unless you're able to kill almost all fertile males and females, the ones left will just breed back their numbers.

With TNR they'll still be competing with each other to breed, but the breeding won't happen, overall bringing the numbers better under control.
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« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2024, 09:42:13 AM »

I know it sounds like hippy granola eating BS, but TNR really is one of the most effective means of controlling feral cat populations. Unless you're able to kill almost all fertile males and females, the ones left will just breed back their numbers.

With TNR they'll still be competing with each other to breed, but the breeding won't happen, overall bringing the numbers better under control.


We will be happy to just teach them to pester someone else. The only good thing about TNR is you have a set group of the same animals so if they all hate my yard it might work out. We just need maximum effect to encourage them to steer wide
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« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2024, 10:00:07 AM »

I know it sounds like hippy granola eating BS, but TNR really is one of the most effective means of controlling feral cat populations. Unless you're able to kill almost all fertile males and females, the ones left will just breed back their numbers.

With TNR they'll still be competing with each other to breed, but the breeding won't happen, overall bringing the numbers better under control.


I agree  it's  the  best thing to do. 
It's not their  fault , It's the  previous  owners who don't  spay and  neuter .
And  toss the  kittens away.. They become  the feral and  over  populate.
  They do a  CNR  here  as well..  Everyone  is  behind  it..
Some  of  the  cats  are sent to farms  as  barn cats. 
Win win .. Cats  do their thing keeping rodents  down , Hell FoodLion has a  small cattery in the  back of  the  store..
   They have  removed  all of  the  mouse  and rat traps. From around  the  store...
It's  much nicer  to see  the  cats  then all the  traps .

Places  are  trying to do the  same  thing with feral dogs in the  area..


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« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2024, 10:18:05 AM »

Ok. So we re ordered the same gun hoping it was a fluke that the first one didn’t work. Amazon refunded my money but didn’t want the gun back.

So, I painted it to make it look more realistic and created a window mount using the magazine clip they provided.

The barrels spin and the lights light up. Should be fun at evening car meets



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« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2024, 11:03:18 AM »

N.Y. transplant: Hello 911?  Yes, there’s a little red car in the parking lot with an Assault Machine gun mounted on the door! Hurry!!

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« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2024, 01:11:18 PM »

N.Y. transplant: Hello 911?  Yes, there’s a little red car in the parking lot with an Assault Machine gun mounted on the door! Hurry!!

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Craig

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« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2024, 06:19:10 PM »

Couple years ago, there was a Jeep rolling thru my town that had a special jack to get out of mud holes mounted crosswise on the hood. Yup, someone called PD and said it was an Assault Weapon on the hood.  LEO had a good laugh with the driver when they stopped the Jeep…

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« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2024, 06:27:13 PM »

I think the water Gatling gun on the car looks cool too.

But you're not really going to drive around squirting stray cats, are you?   Grin

Will that thing mount on the bike? 
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« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2024, 07:04:26 PM »

lol. I could mount it on the bike but it wouldn’t make sense.

I don’t plan to drive around in the car with it on. It’s for parked at car meets when the right crowd is there.

It looks a bit too real, don’t want to scare little old ladies
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