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« on: December 22, 2024, 07:15:02 AM »

Sol...
 
Yeah, if I were to stumble across that title, I’d also assume the story probably had something to do with that brilliant celestial orb at the center of our solar system. It doesn’t. It’s the name of a friend of mine with an interesting, at least to me, story associated with him.

Solomon Seay (named for his minister father) was a fascinating character, and one of those who come along once in a great while, perhaps only once in a lifetime… I miss him and the quality time we spent together, and I still think about him and the profound impact he had upon my life and my thinking…
 
I was perched upon my usual bar stool at 'Ah Shucks' in Montgomery, AL, more than a decade ago, while among other things, trying my hand, in vain by the way, at returning to some sort of regular lifestyle. At that time, I’d thought I’d abandoned the gypsy life aboard our girl and at long last become an adult… I was wrong, it later turned out… but that’s another story…

I noticed the dignified older gentleman I’d seen a time or two before was there again. He’d come in, order a drink and a meal at the bar, enjoy a solitary leisurely hour or so then depart. He didn’t ordinarily talk to anyone else, he just sat alone and seemed to enjoy his time. I was intrigued and curious… I introduced myself, and we began to chat.
 
"Are you retired," I inquired? Mostly, he’d responded, but he still did a few things (he was easily in his late 70s back then; I was something more than twenty years his junior). He went on to tell me he was the general counsel for Alabama State University (an historically Black institution in Montgomery), and he also still worked with a couple of older clients he’d had during his career, mostly as a civil rights attorney. I was thoroughly captivated and most eager to learn more!
 
The following couple of years, we’d run into each other sometimes once or twice a week, other times I might not see him for a month or two. The conversations we shared were always fascinating and some of the most worthwhile interactions I’ve ever enjoyed with anyone anywhere.
 
It was one of those special encounters we sometimes are extremely fortunate enough to have that give us a glimpse and surprising insight into another world that only overlaps with ours in time and space, but is at once so alike, even part of our own, yet some of the experiences can be so vastly different in other ways… arguably the reverse at times, from the ones we see…
 
He’d been writing a book about his ‘journey’ and experiences and was just having it published during our time together. One night he informed me he had something for me, a gift… an autographed copy of 'Jim Crow And Me'… A treasure I keep, and one which I will never be able to let go.
 
Sol in no way came across as a fire-breathing dragon or a boisterous, self-righteous champion of a cause; although, with his commanding presence and imposing bearing he quite easily could have been. Instead, he was at all times most dignified, calm, and reserved - Dr. Ben Carson later reminded me of him. He saw no need to get in people's faces and insult them, even though I've come to believe he had every right and justification to do so.
 
This stoic, class-act, consummate gentleman was so convinced of the rightness of his beliefs and confident in the fundamental truth of his vision, that the most effective course for him to follow, in his view, was to set a good personal example, reason with people, and do the right thing towards all people, but to stand one's ground and not be bullied or intimidated.

He also believed that the foundational underpinnings of his entire point of view, the appropriateness of unqualified equality, fairness, respect, and honest dealings, are simply too obvious for even the most committed bigot to deny or ignore when confronted with sound, well-thought-out reasoning, simple, unassailable logic, and plain basic facts. That justice would prevail in the long run.
 
He realized many things that contributed to his being so effective in impacting the thinking of others. He never sought to intimidate, brow-beat, or shock anyone with his message, for example. Rather, he skillfully prevented 'defensive barriers to communication' from ever being erected, allowing for the thoughtful exchange of ideas rather than the counterproductive 'thrust and parry' of 'armed' verbal conflict to arise.
 
He understood the ‘why’ and ‘how’ of the confusing, bewildering contradiction of how otherwise good people cloaked in ignorance, held back by tradition, and influenced by carefully crafted propaganda rather than actual facts could see things out of focus. How decent, stand-up people could actually be molded to become OK with doing horrible things to other people.

How a complex 'mythology of racism' had been skillfully and carefully developed to lead otherwise reasonable, good folks to rationalize the abomination of slavery and later the outrage of 'Jim Crow' to keep the races apart. A deliberate line of thought to facilitate continual exploitation of some by others, while also seemingly enabling otherwise reasonable people to ‘justify’ to themselves the unreasonable.
 
He didn't view whites, even bigots, as necessarily evil... just wrong about race and race relations. His duty, as he saw it, was not to defeat, vanquish, or punish the foe; rather, it was to enlighten and demonstrate to adversarial or disagreeing groups how things could be seen differently, more accurately, and far more appropriately... How justice was the real goal and not simply doing battle or supporting and perpetuating archaic notions, and certainly not merely the scoring of debate points.
 
The last time I saw Sol was also at 'Ah Shucks'. He'd come in stooped over his walker looking frail and far less robust than he had on our last encounter only a couple of years before... He'd slowly and unsteadily made his way to a table, this time accompanied by a younger but mature man who turned out to be his son. I went over to pay my respects...
 
Sol only vaguely remembered me by then, but he did have some lucid memories of some of our conversations. I saluted his courage, stamina, wisdom, and perseverance. I sincerely thanked him for the example he had set for all people, and for the huge positive influence he had had upon this novice protégé of his.

My praise and gratitude expressed to him that evening were entirely from the heart, as I consider him to be one of the giants who make a major impact in life… Each of us can point to a handful of people who have left their indelible 'fingerprints' upon the person we eventually became; Sol was clearly one such standout in the life of this most fortunate seeker of truth and justice.

His son thanked me for my words, and he added his dad really needed to hear those things. He also mentioned later that he then knew who I was, as Sol had mentioned me to him before… Life can be so full of chance encounters leading to incredibly meaningful surprises!
 
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2024, 07:48:20 AM »

Thanks, Bruce. Some of us are truly fortunate to have or to have had people like that pass through our lives in a way to, even years later, catch a hint of the scent of their being, and remember.
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2024, 08:47:16 AM »

Fascinating dude, I'm jealous of the opportunity to casually chat wit him...

https://www.almd.uscourts.gov/oral-histories-profiles/solomon-s-seay

About him, including a nearly five and a half  HOUR (!) interview with him...
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2024, 10:13:34 AM »

After reading the internet article and reading Bruces story of his acquaintance with the man, he must have really impacted lives of all races.   I can tell you are a better person for having met him.
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2024, 01:01:50 PM »


Everyone has a story to tell; amazing the things you will hear if one has the patience to just listen.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2024, 03:03:24 PM »

ASU:
Do they have a high steppin band? Very demonstrative, jitter-flippin all over the field  coolsmiley
I bet ol Sol had fascinating stories, considering his line of work & the era he was at ASU. No doubt he relied only on the  “True Facts”. . He probably possessed the wisdom of …Solomon…  coolsmiley
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2024, 03:34:05 PM »

An interesting read, thanks for posting.

I believe most of us can say they've benefitted from meeting another who impacted their life.   I can honestly say that meeting and sharing with Bruce is a meeting I cherish.   One of a kind that man is.

Still waiting on that book of his to be published.  Wink

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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2024, 04:44:56 PM »

Bruce, I enjoyed the read and looked into Sol. What an amazing guy. Only the Lord knows how many lives Sol has touched. I watched much of the interview. It did not take the whole 5 hours to realize I was witnessing a great man. Having grown up in the south, I know what he was up against. My eyes were opened when I was in the Navy. When the person next to you has the same skills as you,  and your life depends on them doing the job correctly, you realize their skin color makes no difference. You are blessed to have been able to sit and share with Sol.
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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2024, 07:52:17 AM »

Eric,

You are so right about that! I know from our many conversations together that you do indeed have a rich treasure trove of similar fond memories that have also contributed to the creation of the person you've become.

I'm stationary for the holidays visiting my daughter and her family, but... I do have a need to wander immediately afterward and to make lots more memories... You interested?

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Serk,

WOW! I had no idea that website existed! I've book-marked it for repeated looks back and a reminder of a watershed event in my life! Thanks for including that in your reply!!!

Yes, a fascinating character indeed. Not just in the stories he told, but in just being with such a quality person. The entire experience for this interested student was so very worthwhile...

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Keith,

Yes, you are spot-on with your remarks! I am indeed a better person than I otherwise would have been for that major event in my journey. Our Maker surely smiled broadly that evening when he allowed our paths to intersect! Yes again... I am but one of the multitude of folks who've benefited from an association with that fine man!

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OFG,

I completely agree! You've danced around that very real point before in some of your replies... I completely agree with you again! It helps me that I don't need to share my story or tell of my own experiences, as that enables me to focus solely upon the person who happens to be in front of me. Of course, if they should be curious about my own experience, I'm happy to oblige, but... It matters not to me what I may or may not speak about, it matters to me entirely what I might glean from such a conversation.

You've obviously grown as a result of many of your own experiences in this way. Congrats!

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Gig,

I don't know about the ASU band, but I do know of what you speak, having observed it myself in other venues. Sol did play a saxophone, he told me, but he enjoyed Jazz and played in a Jazz band once upon a time. He never became a solo featured player, he confessed, as according to him he lacked the 'creativity' for such... Frankly, I can only imagine him beng exceptional at that as well as so many other things.

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Ron,

Thank you, my friend, for that wonderful reply! At the conclusion of this current year, you've just made it one for the books in my own memory bank! I appreciate ya, amigo...

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Dave,

Yes, I too grew up in the south, so like you I'm quite familiar with segregation and Jim Crow. Knowing many folks 'not like me' over the years has given me a very different view of what I'd thought I'd witnessed. All of that has contributed to an enhanced capacity for empathy, a realization that competence and character, not aesthetics, are the only reasonable measures of worth, and that my perspective of life has been expanded and improved through interactions with those originally excluded from my cloistered world.

I hate the indignity suffered by those I've come to deeply respect. I am happy, however, for my own journey, in that it has not only made me into a better person, it has also allowed me to find and relish a greater level of self-respect. Knowing you as I do, I know you know exactly what I'm writing about...

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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2024, 09:54:00 AM »

Bruce, I am mostly wrenching on bikes here (Several need maintenance) and taking it easy after a fall in my back yard from not being careful with the new coat of leaves covering holes. Nothing serious as I rode about 80 miles yesterday and went shooting yesterday evening. I'll text you a picture of my damage. I also upgraded the lights on my Valkyrie as they were deemed 'inadequate' by me after our dark runs this summer. My eyes are not getting better as I age. I replaced the previous lights with a new pair of Denali D7 Pros. It is now 'adequate' to me. I didn't mention that I acquired another ST1300 in Niceville, FL last month. I did a very fast fly and ride due to an expected cold front coming here. It was a two day trip. Be well and enjoy your time with your daughter. Please tell her I said "Hello" and "Merry Christmas".
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2024, 05:26:02 AM »

Eric,

It appears to this observer that you are heavily engaged in your usual 'winter routine', and that an extended coddiewomple is not registering on your radar screen just now. No problem, my friend, just do what you do! That's exactly what I'm figuring to do!!!

From central Florida, the only good options for long-riding without soon bumping into an ocean are to head north and/or northwest briefly then due west. Naturally, this time of year that basically means west along the Gulf coast to central or southern Texas, perhaps beyond. Having no plans still leaves me with lots of choices, though, so it ain't as limiting as it might at first seem! The piedmont and coastal areas of the Carolinas are still more or less available, also, so we'll just have to see...

Good luck in all your pursuits! Thanks for commenting on my posts... Your points of view are always instructive and enlightening, so please continue to do so!!! I look forward to the next time we can share some wind, adventure, and surprises 'out yonder'!!!

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