Dodge gives new meaning to six-pack

[f6john]

2026 will see a new version of the Dodge Charger, a two door in fact with a six pack. The difference from back in the muscle car days will be the 6 pack won’t be three two barrel carbs on a V8 but an in line 6 cylinder twin double overhead cam with two counter rotating turbos that can produce close to 30 psi and 550 horsepower.

The Dodge Ram pickup will be getting virtually the same setup but tuned for truck duty. The horsepower wars are still on!

[Jersey mike]

Lots of vehicles are turbo nowadays. Not too sure how to feel about that scenario. Smaller gasoline engines with turbocharger(s) doesn’t seem like a long term reliable option unless there’s been big breakthroughs in the turbo engine.

It use to be the turbocharger would breakdown, the engine would breakdown from too much pressure, turbo lag was a big concern and in cold weather the turbo wasn't too effective until everything got hot.

I’ve only driven 2 cars that had turbo, one was a Nissan 300zx and a Ford thunderbird turbo coupe from back in the late ‘80’s. There was a bit of learning curve with boost, rpm’s and throttle response.

Not real sure on these new designs. I guess there could be improvements over the decades but I see a lot of trucks are now 4cyl with turbo. Not too sure if I’d buy one of those, especially for (real) work and towing.

[Serk]

I loved my 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, but after $$$fixing it$$$ almost as often as a Ford I swore I'd never have a turbo or supercharger boosted vehicle again.

Kali got a crappy little Ford Fusion (It was one of the only cars in her price range that had a manual) with Ford "Ecoboost".

Little did I know at the time that "Ford Ecoboost" means "Tiny underpowered engine with a turbo".

...Only have a few thousand miles on that Ford and it's on its' second engine and needs radiator work and who knows what else...

I love the IDEA of a smaller engine fitted with a forced induction system, best of both worlds; high efficiency engine that sips fuel during everyay cruise, but the ability to jump up and get a boost of power when needed.

The reality of the extra complexity and added mechanics of the forced induction system adds more parts to break though...

[scooperhsd]

It's really a matter of engineering the system correctly. Almost all diesel engines are turbo'ed, and they're known for being long running, reliable, and the turbo ensures there is excess O2 in the cylinders thus helping on emissions as well increasing horsepower / torque.

My 3 VW diesels all have over 140K miles (2000 Beetle - 387,000 miles, 2015 Golf 144,000 miles, 2015 Golf Sportwagon 155,000 miles) - no turbo problems on any of them. (and Beetle is not quite stock). I will note that the engines displace 1.9 - 2 Liters , while those gas engines are typically 1.5 Liter or smaller. You also must take care to maintain them - especially following the oil change intrevals religiously.

[Challenger]

We had simple turbochargers for years in the ag side. Then turbos with mechanical waist gates. Now there are water cooled, computer controlled variable vane turbochargers which basically eliminates  turbo lag. This translates to mega-dollars if repairs are needed. The neighbors eco-boost turbo repair was just over $6000.00.
I still like simple designs,  but I'm old .

[f6john]

When my mother needed a new car 10 years ago, I was the one to help her as my Dad had been gone for five years at the time. Only criteria was it had to be a Buick as that was what Dad would have bought in her mind. We actually went to the same dealer where they had bought their last new Buick decades ago. Trying out new cars was like Goldilocks, too big too small, can’t see out of this one.

We ended up with a new Buick Regal Turbo. It was a good choice given her criteria as she is still in love with her Buick even though she may never drive it again. It’s a 2015 model and has a little over 13,000 miles on it now, the proverbial little old ladies car. But it took her everywhere she had any interest in going and never left her stranded. Not a great endorsement for a turbo engine but it was the only Regal on the lot at the time.

[Jess from VA]

My mom has been driving a small Dodge Ram Promaster City for years.  (no turbo)

Our whole family is Mopar (only).

But after a small sideswipe of the garage door earlier this year, my brother suggested maybe it was time to give up her driving.  At 95, she agreed (to everyone's relief).

The fact she's blind in one eye and can't see very well out of the other was a bigger problem than her actual driving ability.   

Her Promaster City is the newest vehicle at their homes and gets used often. 

My brother's daily driver is a 1967 Dodge D200 Camper Special Crew Cab.  (mechanically perfect, cosmetically ancient) 

[scooperhsd]

My brother's daily driver is a 1967 Dodge D200 Camper Special Crew Cab.  (mechanically perfect, cosmetically ancient) 

Is that a polite way of say "It's been run hard and put away wet" ? ( i.e. rust here and there - perfect for the rust belt... )

[Jess from VA]

My brother's daily driver is a 1967 Dodge D200 Camper Special Crew Cab.  (mechanically perfect, cosmetically ancient) 

Is that a polite way of say "It's been run hard and put away wet" ? ( i.e. rust here and there - perfect for the rust belt... )

No sir, there's no rust, but the paint is original and kind of a flat sandblasted tan.  He doesn't do washing and waxing; the rain does the washing.   

[Jersey mike]

It's really a matter of engineering the system correctly. Almost all diesel engines are turbo'ed, and they're known for being long running, reliable, and the turbo ensures there is excess O2 in the cylinders thus helping on emissions as well increasing horsepower / torque.

My 3 VW diesels all have over 140K miles (2000 Beetle - 387,000 miles, 2015 Golf 144,000 miles, 2015 Golf Sportwagon 155,000 miles) - no turbo problems on any of them. (and Beetle is not quite stock). I will note that the engines displace 1.9 - 2 Liters , while those gas engines are typically 1.5 Liter or smaller. You also must take care to maintain them - especially following the oil change intrevals religiously.

Turbo and diesel have been together for a long time and it really seems to work well together.

As for the new gasoline engine and turbo oil changes are critical. But I’ll go and say the use of computer generated data has most likely helped the development of new technology. Also modern production advancements have probably contributed to better performance and longevity as well.

[GiG]

The Dodge Ram pickup will be getting virtually the same setup but tuned for truck duty. The horsepower wars are still on!

BTW: Dodge & Ram are separate entities, different companies.
Guys around here get upset if I was to refer to my RAM as a “dodge” 

[f6john]

The Dodge Ram pickup will be getting virtually the same setup but tuned for truck duty. The horsepower wars are still on!

BTW: Dodge & Ram are separate entities, different companies.
Guys around here get upset if I was to refer to my RAM as a “dodge” 

Well, when it comes to me they’ll just have to get over it!

[GiG]

Ha, yes indeed!

It’s just that around here, everyone is auto industry related (admittedly or not), and pretty much brand loyal.  RAM guys seem especially so!
I once referred to my RAM as a Chrysler product, just to get a reaction from a long time Ram enthusiast.
Oh, boy!   

[Challenger]

(I once referred to my RAM as a Chrysler product, just to get a reaction from a long time Ram enthusiast.
Oh, boy!  )


"MOPAR" Baby 

[Rams]

The Dodge Ram pickup will be getting virtually the same setup but tuned for truck duty. The horsepower wars are still on!

BTW: Dodge & Ram are separate entities, different companies.
Guys around here get upset if I was to refer to my RAM as a “dodge”  

My last five "Real" trucks were a Dodge followed by four Rams.   All were turboed.  I'm not addicted to Ram trucks but willingly admit I love that Cummins engine.   I sold my 2018 Ram 3500 a while back and found a 2010 Chevy 1500 short bed, regular cab straight  V six/automatic.   Either sold or gave my gooseneck trailers away and am happy with the Chevy.   It won't do what the Ram could do but, I don't ask that of it now.

Being honest, I have considered putting a turbo on my Pontiac Solstice...................

Rams

[Jersey mike]

The Dodge Ram pickup will be getting virtually the same setup but tuned for truck duty. The horsepower wars are still on!

BTW: Dodge & Ram are separate entities, different companies.
Guys around here get upset if I was to refer to my RAM as a “dodge” 

Learn something new every day. 

Then I guess it’s registered as a RAM, not a Dodge.

[f6john]

The Dodge Ram pickup will be getting virtually the same setup but tuned for truck duty. The horsepower wars are still on!

BTW: Dodge & Ram are separate entities, different companies.
Guys around here get upset if I was to refer to my RAM as a “dodge”  

My last five "Real" trucks were a Dodge followed by four Rams.   All were turboed.  I'm not addicted to Ram trucks but willingly admit I love that Cummins engine.   I sold my 2018 Ram 3500 a while back and found a 2010 Chevy 1500 short bed, regular cab straight six/automatic.   Either sold or gave my gooseneck trailers away and am happy with the Chevy.   It won't do what the Ram could do but, I don't ask that of it now.

Being honest, I have considered putting a turbo on my Pontiac Solstice...................

Rams

Are you sure about that straight six??? Anyhow GM has already worked out everything you need to turbo that Solstice so I say go for it. Perfect project for that new shop.

[Rams]

The Dodge Ram pickup will be getting virtually the same setup but tuned for truck duty. The horsepower wars are still on!

BTW: Dodge & Ram are separate entities, different companies.
Guys around here get upset if I was to refer to my RAM as a “dodge”  

My last five "Real" trucks were a Dodge followed by four Rams.   All were turboed.  I'm not addicted to Ram trucks but willingly admit I love that Cummins engine.   I sold my 2018 Ram 3500 a while back and found a 2010 Chevy 1500 short bed, regular cab straight six/automatic.   Either sold or gave my gooseneck trailers away and am happy with the Chevy.   It won't do what the Ram could do but, I don't ask that of it now.

Being honest, I have considered putting a turbo on my Pontiac Solstice...................

Rams

Are you sure about that straight six??? Anyhow GM has already worked out everything you need to turbo that Solstice so I say go for it. Perfect project for that new shop.

I guess I don't understand your question about the straight six.  But, I'm sure I had a Cummins turbo charged straight six.  Reference the Solstice and a turbo, that's way down the list of priorities.

But, I do have a Valkyrie project going on right now.   Some will like it, I doubt most will but, it's something I want to try.

Rams

[f6john]

The Dodge Ram pickup will be getting virtually the same setup but tuned for truck duty. The horsepower wars are still on!

BTW: Dodge & Ram are separate entities, different companies.
Guys around here get upset if I was to refer to my RAM as a “dodge”  

My last five "Real" trucks were a Dodge followed by four Rams.   All were turboed.  I'm not addicted to Ram trucks but willingly admit I love that Cummins engine.   I sold my 2018 Ram 3500 a while back and found a 2010 Chevy 1500 short bed, regular cab straight six/automatic.   Either sold or gave my gooseneck trailers away and am happy with the Chevy.   It won't do what the Ram could do but, I don't ask that of it now.

Being honest, I have considered putting a turbo on my Pontiac Solstice...................

Rams

Are you sure about that straight six??? Anyhow GM has already worked out everything you need to turbo that Solstice so I say go for it. Perfect project for that new shop.

I guess I don't understand your question about the straight six.  But, I'm sure I had a Cummins turbo charged straight six.  Reference the Solstice and a turbo, that's way down the list of priorities.

But, I do have a Valkyrie project going on right now.   Some will like it, I doubt most will but, it's something I want to try.

Rams

I haven’t seen anything but V6 engines in the Chevys since the old square body trucks. They could have slipped some straight six’s in on me and when I wasn’t looking.

[Rams]

John,
You're correct, some how I was thinking of the Ram(s) when I posted that.   Don't know why but I assume it's the same reason I end up in a room and can't remember why I entered that room.  

Rams

[cookiedough]

turbos are not reliable long term, enough said!

[Jersey mike]

The Dodge Ram pickup will be getting virtually the same setup but tuned for truck duty. The horsepower wars are still on!

BTW: Dodge & Ram are separate entities, different companies.
Guys around here get upset if I was to refer to my RAM as a “dodge”  

My last five "Real" trucks were a Dodge followed by four Rams.   All were turboed.  I'm not addicted to Ram trucks but willingly admit I love that Cummins engine.   I sold my 2018 Ram 3500 a while back and found a 2010 Chevy 1500 short bed, regular cab straight six/automatic.   Either sold or gave my gooseneck trailers away and am happy with the Chevy.   It won't do what the Ram could do but, I don't ask that of it now.

Being honest, I have considered putting a turbo on my Pontiac Solstice...................

Rams

Are you sure about that straight six??? Anyhow GM has already worked out everything you need to turbo that Solstice so I say go for it. Perfect project for that new shop.

I guess I don't understand your question about the straight six.  But, I'm sure I had a Cummins turbo charged straight six.  Reference the Solstice and a turbo, that's way down the list of priorities.

But, I do have a Valkyrie project going on right now.   Some will like it, I doubt most will but, it's something I want to try.

Rams

I haven’t seen anything but V6 engines in the Chevys since the old square body trucks. They could have slipped some straight six’s in on me and when I wasn’t looking.

I remember Ford had an excellent straight 6 in their pickups but we’re going back quite a ways. I think it was a 300ci, the small v8 was their 302 if memory serves.

[GiG]

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