hubcapsc
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« on: November 20, 2025, 04:56:42 AM » |
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I tore down the steps (that's all there was, the front door has just been plastered onto a blank front wall) and built a front porch. It has been great fun, until the roof. 30 years ago I put a standing seam roof on the whole house with 100 year old manual tools. Getting back into the swing of things and finding the material I needed and working on such a small roof turned out to be a challenge. I put one side of the roof on with 26 gauge metal. It was extremely hard to do, and I wasn't satisfied with it so I tore it off and started over with 29 gauge metal from a different supplier. 30 years ago I easily got wonderful rolls of material for about $30 a roll. The 26 gauge I just got was almost $200 a roll! The 29 was "only" about $55. I could bend the $55 roll well enough, but found that it has low "fatigue resistance"... it breaks at the bend easily. Yesterday, I got the last panel up  ...   I've had the columns for 30 years or so, Salvage from some old Southern house. I got the capitals with them and had to make the bases myself. Anywho... whew! -Mike |
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2025, 05:49:44 AM » |
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Looks like a nice place to have a coffee/Scotch/cigar/whatever you relax with when the weather's nice enough...  |
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2025, 06:10:09 AM » |
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Looks like a nice place to have a coffee/Scotch/cigar/whatever you relax with when the weather's nice enough...
I was thinking the same thing. I can almost hear the sound of nature and imagine the squirrels and chipmunks running all over. |
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2025, 07:03:10 AM » |
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Nice work MIke.  I've been working on my old home for 35 years. It slows down over time, but it never stops.  Years ago, the rain water came through on my dining room table. I paid the roof repair done, but patched up my ceiling myself. |
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f6john
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2025, 12:44:31 PM » |
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A man could get bored while not riding without a project to work on!
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2025, 01:45:35 PM » |
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A man could get bored while not riding without a project to work on!
Exactly John. I keep lists; long term and short term. As soon as I get bored, I look at my lists... Oh yeah, there's something I can do.  |
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2025, 04:55:10 PM » |
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I put a coat of paint on the front of it today. I'll put on a
second coat and take the scaffolding down tomorrow.
It never seems boring around here... Stanley Steamer
says I have the patience of Job, maybe that's it...
I just looked on the Classifieds... That "Nico" bike is for
sale. I've seen it at numerous rides. Honda never made a black and
white Tourer, but that's how Nico is painted. The pinstripe is red. Honda
should have made that color...
-Mike "the Red Green show..."
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LadyDraco
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2025, 05:12:24 PM » |
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Looks good Mike
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2025, 03:11:19 AM » |
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Looks good Mike Thanks Tracy! When I read your thread and hear about all you're doing, it keeps me motivated.... -Mike |
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2025, 08:51:03 AM » |
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Familiar with Cayenne, Boxster, Carrera, Targa, 914, 911 but never heard of “ millstone”,  Told LuLu last night, “roofing is a young man’s game” - son “Vinnie” pushing 40 is roofer but feels it… Good work, young man, wasn’t informed you switched to cigars    |
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LadyDraco
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2025, 05:09:11 AM » |
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Thanks Tracy! When I read your thread and hear about all
you're doing, it keeps me motivated....
-Mike
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Life is what you make of it~If it don't fit make alterations...
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It's a Poor Craftsman who blames their Tools !
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2025, 07:13:37 AM » |
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(I keep reading the subject at "Porch Millstone" and every time I think "Man, those South Carolina boys really take self sufficiency seriously!)
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2025, 05:03:41 PM » |
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nice work I am still measure twice and cut twice anyways but I only have to write 1 check to get the job done correctly, after of course I have measured twice and cut twice learned a while back not to even attempt plumbing or electrical work |
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2025, 07:07:16 AM » |
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Keith (threevalks) and I were talking about roof construction at the fall color ride. He used a term, "fly rafter", that I'd never heard. I know he has looked into this thread, here is a picture of how I handled my fly rafter...  -Mike |
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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2025, 10:38:55 AM » |
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Keith (threevalks) and I were talking about roof construction at the fall color ride. He used a term, "fly rafter", that I'd never heard. I know he has looked into this thread, here is a picture of how I handled my fly rafter... -Mike I hadn't heard the term Fly Rafter. But that's what I did with the last storage building that I built. I don't care for the metal plates that are designed to hold rafters together. I've never felt like they were strong enough. So everywhere that there was a joint in the rafters I used a piece of the 3/4" flooring material to hold the joint together. I not only screwed the wood to the rafters, I also glued the wood to the rafter with liquid nails. Additionally, I sandwiched the rafter with a board on each side. |
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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2025, 12:26:30 PM » |
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A fly rafter, barge rafter, bargeboard or facia rafter is the last rafter on the gable end that sticks past the end of the building. We were talking about how it is installed. I was taught to simply nail it at each end. The bottom to the 2X6 facia board, the top to the ridge board. Then the roof sheathing is nailed to it and all other rafters, holding it all together
To install the proper way. (I have only seen two or three times on an older house's) You nail at top and bottom, then run short 2X6's from fly rafter to next common rafter inside building on 16" centers. They are siting on top of the gable wall, nailed at each end.
Very strong for sure, but seems like a bit of over kill. The common rafters are siting on the top plate of the wall and are actually what holds the facia board up. Where the fly rafter is only held at each end.
Mike's pic does not show the fly rafter, but the rest should hold up through a category 10 hurricane. GREAT JOB MIKE.
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2025, 04:54:51 PM » |
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There's a fly rafter out there, I was trying to show how I tied it in to the common rafters, which is different than how you described...  -Mike |
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2025, 05:48:27 PM » |
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There's a fly rafter out there, I was trying to show how I tied it in to the common rafters, which is different than how you described... -Mike You done it the way I do, nailed top and bottom, then sheathed over. You added extra boards at the end, I covered it solid for shingles. Damn, we're good. |
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