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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2010, 12:07:46 PM » |
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What pressure did you run 'em at?
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2010, 12:12:20 PM » |
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Please give us some specifics as to what's meant by the phrases "supposed to be under warranty" and "no longer warrantied".
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2010, 12:40:54 PM » |
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ran the tires at the pressure set by the dealership of 35 psi. as of 6/22/09 the tires were warrentied. i spoke with the vice president for avon tires in california. pictures were taken and e-mailed to this man, along with verification from the owner of the dealership that the tires were still at said pressure along with tread depth. the V.P. said that it would be replaced at no cost to me. well no tire was ever sent to the dealership and the old one was never sent to them. the phone number i had is no longer in service and when i found a new number for avon i was told by a service rep that he was not going to authorize a replacement tire. i am on my own. THUS, I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER AVON PRODUCT. PERIOD.......
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2010, 12:50:13 PM » |
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I feel your pain. It sounds like someone or two in the organization let you down. I'm not certain it represents the totality of the company.
D, it won't do you any good, but for the benefit of others who may run Avons in the future I would never ride with less than forty pounds in an Avon tire on the Valkyrie.
I weigh 186 and ride solo most of the time.
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2010, 01:58:55 PM » |
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I had the same problem with a rear Avon tire last year. Less than a year old. Under 6,000 miles on it. Avon warrantied the tire. I always run 40 front and 42 rear. I wouldnt let this go. Keep contacting them ttill they do you right.
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2010, 02:08:56 PM » |
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I feel your pain. It sounds like someone or two in the organization let you down. I'm not certain it represents the totality of the company.
D, it won't do you any good, but for the benefit of others who may run Avons in the future I would never ride with less than forty pounds in an Avon tire on the Valkyrie.
I weigh 186 and ride solo most of the time.
I'm with Carl here, when I run Avon's back a few years, I never ran less than 50# to keep that rear tire from cupping....... Ride solo, and weight in a few more #s than Carl does.
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2010, 02:22:04 PM » |
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I feel your pain. It sounds like someone or two in the organization let you down. I'm not certain it represents the totality of the company.
D, it won't do you any good, but for the benefit of others who may run Avons in the future I would never ride with less than forty pounds in an Avon tire on the Valkyrie.
I weigh 186 and ride solo most of the time.
I'm with Carl here, when I run Avon's back a few years, I never ran less than 50# to keep that rear tire from cupping....... Ride solo, and weight in a few more #s than Carl does. Add one more here... 42 front, 47 rear and I typically get 22,000 out of a front Avon and 14,000 out of a rear Avon. I spoke with an Avon Tech Support feller a couple of years back, to inquire about the notion of siping a M/C tire. Tire pressure came up in conversation and when I told him what I run to avoid cupping that happens at the "spec'd" pressure... he reluctantly confirmed to me that I was on to something, but that he couldn't confirm it "on the record". Personally... I'd suggest you learn from the low pressure mistake and give it another try. You could do a LOT worse than an Avon for a Valkyrie.
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2010, 02:42:38 PM » |
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You could do a LOT worse than an Avon for a Valkyrie.
Like what? Havent heard much good about Avons. ???
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2010, 03:22:01 PM » |
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You could do a LOT worse than an Avon for a Valkyrie.
Like what? Havent heard much good about Avons. ??? OEM Dunlop Dunlop D251 (saw four of them delaminate inside of 10,000 miles) I wouldn't put another Metz on my bike if you paid me to. Don't handle worth a crap and to the chords by 8,000 miles. Other than 4 sets of tires, I've run Avons for most of my bike's 140,000 miles.
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2010, 03:22:12 PM » |
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Just installed my new Avon Cobra on the front last week, 40 psi. I have only run Avons on the front and never had a problem. This is my first Cobra though, Venom was at 13k and had to come off due to plugs in it. Still had some tread. Currently running Goodyear Triple tread on the rear. Three of my Valkyrie riding buddies run Avons, no complaints here. Hows your tire pressure, hows your suspension? Stock 10 year old shocks?
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2010, 04:01:13 PM » |
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Virtually all solo on both.
17,000-plus on Venom Front - 40-42 psi - 2 oz dyna beads - looks great - coming off soon just 'cuz
12,000-plus on Cobra Rear, thought I had more but checked records - 38-40 psi - 3 oz dyna beads - slightly cupped and beginning to develop a flat spot - coming off soon so I can go DS
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2010, 04:13:21 PM » |
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You could do a LOT worse than an Avon for a Valkyrie.
Like what? Havent heard much good about Avons. ??? OEM Dunlop Dunlop D251 (saw four of them delaminate inside of 10,000 miles) I wouldn't put another Metz on my bike if you paid me to. Don't handle worth a crap and to the chords by 8,000 miles. Other than 4 sets of tires, I've run Avons for most of my bike's 140,000 miles. Ah, Dunflops.  Your right. I love my Metz tho. Got 23k out of a front and 15k outta the rear. Ds now. You must tear up the roads more then me. 
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2010, 04:42:20 PM » |
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Tires are like everthing else, it's all in how you ride, conservative or agressive. Staight line fever or hell bent in the curves it's all relative. Pressure is a key element and everyone can agree on that. But brand loyalty can play a part. Also the tires do have a shelf life and this could be the difference that folks here might not be aware of. Saw a little news show about this and it makes sense. Tires can be on a shelf for years before the consumer aquires the item. Tire companies have a code that they are privy too on each tire and that is scary. What if you get a ten year old tire thinking you are getting a good product and in reality you are being sold a dud. Even with the best intentions fate steps in.
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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2010, 04:44:33 PM » |
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You could do a LOT worse than an Avon for a Valkyrie.
Like what? Havent heard much good about Avons. ??? OEM Dunlop Dunlop D251 (saw four of them delaminate inside of 10,000 miles) I wouldn't put another Metz on my bike if you paid me to. Don't handle worth a crap and to the chords by 8,000 miles. Other than 4 sets of tires, I've run Avons for most of my bike's 140,000 miles. Ah, Dunflops.  Your right. I love my Metz tho. Got 23k out of a front and 15k outta the rear. Ds now. You must tear up the roads more then me.  Not like I used to be... but, I'm pretty hard on rubber and pegs/boards.
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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2010, 04:46:56 PM » |
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Tires are like everthing else, it's all in how you ride, conservative or agressive. Staight line fever or hell bent in the curves it's all relative. Pressure is a key element and everyone can agree on that. But brand loyalty can play a part. Also the tires do have a shelf life and this could be the difference that folks here might not be aware of. Saw a little news show about this and it makes sense. Tires can be on a shelf for years before the consumer aquires the item. Tire companies have a code that they are privy too on each tire and that is scary. What if you get a ten year old tire thinking you are getting a good product and in reality you are being sold a dud. Even with the best intentions fate steps in. Driver Licence - Pennzoil Commercial'Cept, your anology doesn't apply to the Cobras... they've only been on the market now for... what? A year now? 
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2010, 05:33:34 PM » |
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Most of the time, it depends on the place where the tire was bought. If you bought the tire from a dealer and you buy often from them, put pressure on him to have it replaced. Each month Avon reps get a dollar amount toward replacements. If your dealer leans on the rep pretty good, the rep will replace it. Make sure the dealer lets the rep know your a very good customer and only buy Avon tires. My dealer did this for me on a Cobra, without me asking, getting me a new tire!
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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2010, 06:30:55 PM » |
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44lbs Front....48 Rear, I love the sound of pegs dragging and grip of them Avon's. Just got new ones a couple thousand miles ago. We ride 2 up all the time. never had any cupping at all. Rear tire lasted 13K the front one I waited several months and finaly changed it at 17K. Still have it. Just in case I need a front tire. Some left. But I got tired of waiting for it to wear out and had some time to change it. The next ones will be AVON for sure!!! 
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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2010, 07:08:08 PM » |
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This is the guy you need to talk to at Avon. Jesse Priel, his phone # is 1-800-624-7470 his e-mail is Jpriel@avonmotorcycleusa.com he is also the guy that reps the Avons at the International Motorcycle shows. great guy to work with. T.P.
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2010, 05:27:58 AM » |
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Just replaced my rear Avon Cobra with 12600 miles on it. Ran at 46# riding single 2/3's of the time and othre 1/3 2up and pulling a trailer loaded to the max.
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