Alabama shootings

[stormrider]

Please keep these families in your prayers. This happened just down the road from us. 

I guess the gun confiscation crew will have another tragedy to add to their campaign, but that is one reason I carry. So if I see something like this evolving...... I want hesitate to act.

[stormrider]

http://www.rickeystokesnews.com/article.php/1225-am-update-wslideshow-at-least-11-dead-in-coffee-and-geneva-counties-1336

[rmrc51]

Please keep these families in your prayers. This happened just down the road from us. 

I guess the gun confiscation crew will have another tragedy to add to their campaign, but that is one reason I carry. So if I see something like this evolving...... I want hesitate to act.

I'm in total agreement with you!

[MAD6Gun]

Any shootings like this are always a tragedy . What makes it worse is that the anti gunners use these tragedies to call for more gun control. I remember after the Viginia Tech shooting Paul Helmke (current president of HCI and ex Mayor of Ft Wayne IN)was on TV callng for more gun control with his little chit eating grin  that remember when he was mayor. The bodies were not even removed from school yet and these bottom feeders were doing this. Makes me sick...Prayers for the families...

[Trynt]

The shooting today (16 dead) in Germany, which has some of the most restrictive gun laws in Europe, puts the lie to gun laws.

 The German Weapons Act (German: Waffengesetz) is a gun regulation law enacted in Germany in 1972. It includes, and modifies, previous gun regulation laws. It regulates the handling of thrustings, firearms and ammunition as well as acquisition, storage, commerce and maintenance of weapons. It also defines certain forbidden items such as Nunchakus, Switchblades and Brass knuckles and bans their possession, bringing into circulation etc. In comparison, the German Weapons Law is one of the tightest in Europe.

The last amendment became effective on April 1, 2008. The intention of that amendment was to ban certain kinds of weapons like paint ball-guns, tasers, so-called Anscheinswaffen (dummy-guns) and thrustings with blades longer than 12 cm from public.

In Germany the possession of any firearm with a fire energy exceeding 7.5 Joule requires a valid firearms ownership license for any particular weapon. The current Federal Weapons Act adopts a two-tiered approach to firarms licensing.


A firearms ownership license (Waffenbesitzkarte) must be obtained before a weapon can be purchased. Owners of multiple firearms need separate ownership licenses for every single firearm they own. It entitles owners to purchase firearms and handle them on their own property and any private property with property owner consent. On public premises, a licensed firearm must be transported unloaded and in a stable, fully enclosing, locked container. A weapons ownership license does not entitle the owner to shoot the weapon or carry it on public premises without the prescribed container. Firearms ownership licenses are valid three years or less, and owners must obtain mandatory insurance and a means to securely store the weapon on their premises (a weapons locker.) Blanket ownership licenses are sometimes issued to arms dealers.

A number of criteria must be met before a firearms ownership license is issued:

    * age of consent (18 years for rimfire arms/21 years higher calibers) (§ 4 WaffG)
    * trustworthiness (§ 5 WaffG)
    * personal adequacy (§ 6 WaffG)
    * expert knowledge (§ 7 WaffG) and
    * necessity (§ 8 WaffG) (Necessity is automatically assumed present for licensed hunters and owners of a carry permits (Waffenschein)).

Persons who are

    * convicted felons
    * have a record of mental disorder or
    * are deemed unreliable (which includes people with drug or alcohol addiction histories and known violent or aggressive persons)

are barred from obtaining a firearms ownership license.

Firearms carry permits entitle licensees to publicly carry legally owned weapons. A mandatory legal and safety class and shooting proficiency tests are required to obtain such a permit. Carry permits are usually only issued to persons with a particular need for carrying a firearm. This includes licensed hunters, law-enforcement officers, security personnel and persons living under a raised threat-level like celebrities and politicians.