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According to The Trustees for the Social Security Administration,
" THERE WILL NOT BE A COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS IN SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS.
ADDITIONALLY THEY WILL RAISE YOUR CO-PAY FOR YOUR RX MEDICARE BENEFITS " !
They, the Congress (BOTH "REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATS TOGETHER") say no increase is warranted because of the losses in gross national product and other cute things..
NOW SPORTS FANS
THIS IS THE ONE THAT WILL FLIP YOU OUT!! THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION IS FUNDING TWENTY FOUR MILLION DOLLARS-- LET ME REPEAT THAT AMOUNT...
SO YOU UNDERSTAND IT $ 24,000,000.00 DOLLARS FOR NEW ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS PROCESSING FOR OUR CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS !!
THEY ARE OBTAINING THESE FUNDS And I QUOTE DIRECTLY FROM THE SOCIAL SECURITY WEBSITE...
"THIS MONEY WILL BE COMING FROM THE SAVINGS TO BE GENERATED FROM WITHHOLDING "COST OF LIVING INCREASES FOR 2010 & 2011 In SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS FOR THE ELDERLY AND A $2.00 INCREASE ON ALL MEDICARE RX BENEFIT CO-PAY"
Please pass this to ALL your friends and have them "PROTEST TO THE IDIOTS WE ELECTED TO CONGRESS" Who by the way, have just voted themselves ANOTHER 3% SALARY INCREASE!!! We must put a stop to this outright thievery! It is THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE, BOTH REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATS, BUT WE SURE CAN NOT RE-ELECT THEM, and WE CAN IMPEACH THEM orDEMAND RECALL ELECTIONS !!! [HOW ABOUT WE ALL GET TOGETHER AND DUMP THESE CLOWNS/color] All I ask is that you consider the suggestion here. The entire Congress of the United States is corrupt. And I mean both Houses and I mean both major parties. I realize that a few Members of each House are trustworthy, But, As a group they are absolutely the most corrupt bunch To ever disgrace our Nation.
To ever disgrace our Nation. In November of 2010 The entire House of Representatives will stand for re-election; All 435 of them. One third of the Senate, A total of 33 of them, will also stand for re-election. Vote every incumbent out. And I mean every one of them. No matter their Party affiliation.
Let's start all over in the House of Representatives with 435 people Who have absolutely no experience in running that body, With no political favors owed to anyone but their own constituents. Let's make them understand that they work for us... They are answerable to us And they simply have to run that body with some common sense Two years later, in 2012, Vote the next third of the incumbents in the Senate out. We can do the same thing in 2014 and, By that time we will have put all new people in that body as well. We, the People, Have got to take this Country back and we HAVE to do it peacefully. That's what the Framers of our Constitution envisioned. I am also suggesting term limits on the NEW BUNCH - 8 YEARS FOR REPRESENTATIVES AND 12 YEARS OF SENATORS. NO EXCEPTIONS. THE LONGER THEY STAY IN OFFICE THE MORE POWER THEY GET AND THEY LOVE IT AND WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET RE-ELECTED.
WE HAVE TERM LIMITED THE PRESIDENT - NOW LET'S TERM LIMIT THE LEGISLATORS. Please, If you love this Country, Send this (as I have done) to absolutely everyone Whose email address appears in your address book.. This thing can permeate this Country in no time Let's make it happen.**
VOTE THE POWER ABUSERS OUT... LET'S TAKE AMERICA BACK !!!
IF YOU LIKE THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING IN OUR COUNTRY, THEN DO NOTHING...
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2010, 03:15:17 PM » |
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and this surprises you how?
these things are normal in washington, just wait till all the healthcare crap starts getting scammed!
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2010, 05:00:30 PM » |
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Have you heard the country is still in financial straits from the ignorance of the previous administration. However, it looks like many things are looking up now like jobs, stock market, housing market. Now there still is going to be millions of knuckleheads that bit off more than they can chew and didn't think of a safety net(like reserve funds). Well, at least with the passage of healthcare, the people stuck in dead end jobs because of their benefit package can now pursue an education and better, higher paying career. 
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Hehehehe.....that is funny....the housing market better, The health care creating jobs? you mean IRS powder blue helmets jobs or Prison guard jobs?. Millions of new foreclosures this next months...We all cant work for the Man!... where is all this Money for Fed jobs coming from UNSUSTAINABLE! 
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2010, 07:30:31 PM » |
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Have you heard the country is still in financial straits from the ignorance of the previous administration. However, it looks like many things are looking up now like jobs, stock market, housing market. Now there still is going to be millions of knuckleheads that bit off more than they can chew and didn't think of a safety net(like reserve funds). Well, at least with the passage of healthcare, the people stuck in dead end jobs because of their benefit package can now pursue an education and better, higher paying career.  Still.???... I would believe worse financial straits .....as a result of the current administration. I don't think the job, housing or stock market is looking UP, it might be clawing to hold on while it looks down to where it could fall even further. But you keep thinking the passage of healthcare is the cure all..... and keep drinkin the cool aid.... 
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2010, 07:35:35 PM » |
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Have you heard the country is still in financial straits from the ignorance of the previous administration. However, it looks like many things are looking up now like jobs, stock market, housing market. Now there still is going to be millions of knuckleheads that bit off more than they can chew and didn't think of a safety net(like reserve funds). Well, at least with the passage of healthcare, the people stuck in dead end jobs because of their benefit package can now pursue an education and better, higher paying career.  You aren't joking are you!?!
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2010, 07:59:58 PM » |
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Have you heard the country is still in financial straits from the ignorance of the previous administration. However, it looks like many things are looking up now like jobs, stock market, housing market. Now there still is going to be millions of knuckleheads that bit off more than they can chew and didn't think of a safety net(like reserve funds). Well, at least with the passage of healthcare, the people stuck in dead end jobs because of their benefit package can now pursue an education and better, higher paying career.  Seriously? Do the drugs your doing make you feel nauseated? Cause this medicine I'm taking for my back is making me super sick and it seems like you're in la-la land. (where I should be).
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2010, 08:32:09 PM » |
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Steve, post a link so I copy the text and email to my "representatives".
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2010, 07:35:52 AM » |
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Steve, post a link so I copy the text and email to my "representatives".
SORRY THERE IS NO LINK JUST COPY AND PAST FROM THE POST
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2010, 08:09:04 AM » |
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All this heath care bill is going to do is allow corp. America to take your benefits away from you and force you to go with the government plane. Also did you know that there is fine of $2500.00 if you get sick and you are not in this heath care plan or do not have Ins. And that when all is said and done you will have a chip implanted in you (don’t think so) and I could go on and on but no need now it is to late  And as far as things are looking up you have been watching the new to much. You have not been out their look for work or you would know better. One more thing. When chain and Japan told the white house that they ( had better start getting your house in order and start paying this bill of or it is going to come to a stop.) That sounds like a WARRIING to me This great country could and is heading in the same direction that Russia went (BROKE) We could wake one day or maybe before today is over and be broke or Chain could just pull the plug and that’s it "WE’RE DONE"
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2010, 08:17:54 AM » |
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All this heath care bill is going to do is allow corp. America to take your benefits away from you and force you to go with the government plane. Also did you know that there is fine of $2500.00 if you get sick and you are not in this heath care plan or do not have Ins. And that when all is said and done you will have a chip implanted in you (don’t think so) and I could go on and on but no need now it is to late
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2010, 09:04:13 AM » |
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Well here ya go, Most likely John Deer will just go to China Like Boeing, Thank you Liberals!! better show this before Congress puts a Gag order on them, Waxman has already called them up to the Hill to start his threats. Dems fear honest Obamacare accounting Examiner Editorial March 30, 2010 Caterpillar Inc., the world’s biggest mining and construction equipment company, is estimating Obamacare will cost it $100 million because of changes in tax law. (Alan Diaz/AP) Remember the Enron scandal in 2001, which drove a bipartisan majority in Congress to demand far-reaching reforms in corporate accounting? Democrats have discovered this week that maybe they can't handle the truth -- at least not when it exposes the real economic effect of Obamacare on private sector companies large and small. Thousands of employees, their families and retirees get their health insurance coverage through firms that are now having to figure out how to cope with government-run health care. On Capitol Hill and in the White House on Monday, Democrats were fuming over a series of announcements that started Friday from Fortune 500 firms saying their bottom lines will take huge negative hits because of changes in tax law mandated by Obamacare. That hit in turn means lower profit projections. Caterpillar estimates, for example, that Obamacare will cost it $100 million; John Deere faces expenses of $150 million; 3M, $90 million; AK Steel, $31 million; Valero, $20 million. And then there's AT&T, which is marking its balance sheet down by a whopping $1 billion. All in all, the Wall Street Journal estimated a $14 billion haircut for these corporations. Under post-Enron accounting rules, the corporations were required to revise their projections to account for the effect of Obamacare on their bottom lines. The effect is negative because Democrats, in their zeal to raise revenues and improve Obamacare's claimed effect on the federal deficit outlook, took away a tax break these companies needed in order to supply prescription drugs to their retirees. The tax subsidy, itself a government accounting ruse crafted in 2003 by the Republican Bush administration to dissuade corporations from dumping their retiree drug benefit programs on the then-new Medicare Part D, becomes taxable under Obamacare. Corporations are now being reminded of the harsh truth: What Big Government giveth, Big Government taketh away, too. According to the American Spectator, top White House advisers reacted with angry phone calls to the corporations in question. House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman, D-Calif., issued harassing document requests and demanded that the chief executive officers appear before his committee next month to answer for their sins. These corporations, which legally owe an honest reckoning to their shareholders, are only doing their duty by restating projections. By contrast, Waxman and many of his fellow Democratic leaders in Congress have used every government accounting and budget gimmick at their disposal to deceive Americans for the last year about the true costs of Obamacare. These Washington politicians have no business lecturing CEOs on honesty in accounting. Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Dems-fear-honest-Obamacare-accounting-89466462.html#ixzz0jlpIS58w
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2010, 09:53:46 AM » |
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My goodness.That's quite a response.Don't some of you think that the American people had a lot to do with the housing market meltdown?I always considered my house as part of my financial portfolio.That being said, I treated my home as a financial investment rather than just a home and sold when ALL the indicators(new,newspapers,internet,radio,mail) indicated that the housing market was about to crash.I didn't get a liars loan, interest only, ballon payment loan, or a variable loan that I could not afford.I didn't refinance and leverage my house for toys and things that I could not afford. The banks are only as guilty as the American people were foolish and greedy. I personally have great medical coverage already and am willing to share a little of what I have to help the unfortunate, the ill, the under-educated, and the jobless. How many of you or your parents stayed at lousy jobs in order to keep whatever benefits that were present at your employ? How many of you or your family have or are receiving assistance with medical care(daughters with children-with children and behavioral and employment problems)? The job data and housing data IS improving-maybe not for you or your community.The good news is now you can go where the work is and where housing is recovering.I feel fortunate that my parents had the balls to leave the midwest in the 60's (when the plants were closing and mills were closing).This has happened over and over.They went from MI to Texas and found the same there. In the 70's.Moved on to Cailfornia where they could work. I'm glad that now I don't have to worry about losing everything because I or my wife gets ill for a longer time than my current insurance might allow. This current job situation is going to be very tough for many individuals have become obsolete and will not seak retraining or education towards something better for their quality of life.If you don't embrace, and take advantage of what the current market is, then good luck with that but the healthcare industry is going to continue to be huge and the government is going to be hiring a lot of people.This isn't necessarily because the government is going to get larger but because the baby boomers are retiring from government jobs and healthcare jobs.BUT....if you continue to choose to be a buggy-whip maker,you better be a Quaker or get another profession. By the way, if you loose your jobs, how many of you WON'T take advantage of the benefits offered to you? STAND FAST ON YOUR PRINCIPLES,make those buggy-whips,and god will provide. 
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.......,and god will provide.  Didn't Obama just take over doing that? 
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Hahahahahaaa...here maybe these guys will need to build Buggy Whips, retraining? yep your Doctor might just do that, you think the GOV telling them how much they can make after all the years of Med school and internship, that they will all work for 10 dollars an hr LOL!! gonna be just like Europe, funny thing is i had some students come and visit me from Poland back in the 80's and they said the tradesman made more than the Doctors because of socialized medicine, the Buggy whippers may be the retraining America needs. Nearly One-Third of Doctors Could Leave Medicine if Health-Care Reform Bill Passes, According to Survey Reported in New England Journal of Medicine Tuesday, March 16, 2010 By Christopher Neefus
Doctors meet with President Obama to discuss Meidcare and health-reform legislation. (AP photo) (CNSNews.com) - Nearly one-third of all practicing physicians may leave the medical profession if President Obama signs current versions of health-care reform legislation into law, according to a survey published in the latest issue of the New England Journal of Medicine. The survey, which was conducted by the Medicus Firm, a leading physician search and consulting firm based in Atlanta and Dallas, found that a majority of physicians said health-care reform would cause the quality of American medical care to “deteriorate” and it could be the “final straw” that sends a sizeable number of doctors out of medicine. More than 29 percent (29.2) percent of the nearly 1,200 doctors who responded to the survey said they would quit the profession or retire early if health reform legislation becomes law. If a public option were included in the legislation, as several liberal Senators have indicated they would like, the number would jump to 45.7 percent. The medical journal published the results in its March and April edition, saying: “While a sudden loss of half of the nations physicians seems unlikely, a very dramatic decrease in the physician workforce could become a reality as an unexpected side effect of health reform.” Kevin Perpetua, managing partner for the Medicus Firm, reported that a reform bill could be “the final straw” in an already financially precarious industry. “Many physicians feel that they cannot continue to practice if patient loads increase while pay decreases,” Perpetua said in the study. “The overwhelming prediction from physicians is that health reform, if implemented inappropriately, could create a detrimental combination of circumstances, and result in an environment in which it is not possible for most physicians to continue practicing medicine.” “With an average debt of $140,000, and many graduates approaching a quarter of a million dollars in school loans, being a doctor is becoming less and less feasible,” Perpetua said. “Health-care reform and increasing government control of medicine may be the final straw that causes the physician workforce to break down.” The survey shows that many doctors already find their situations difficult: -- 36 percent said that they would not recommend medicine as a profession to others, regardless of whether health-care reform passes; -- another 27 percent would still recommend medicine as a career, but not if the current reform proposal passes. In total, 63 percent of doctors would not recommend the profession after health-care reform passes. Just 12 percent do not recommend becoming a physician now but think they would if current reform proposals pass. Primary-care physicians, those who work in the critical fields of family and internal medicine, not only feel that they would want to quit but that they might be cast out of medicine. 46.3 percent of those physicians said that they would either want to leave medicine or that they would be “forced out” by the changes to the system.
Despite all the opposition to the bill as it stands, only a little more than 3 percent of respondents said the status quo was best, with the vast majority (62.7 percent) saying they believe changes are needed. The same 62.7 percent said they wanted reforms made, but that they “should be implemented in a more targeted, gradual way, as opposed to the sweeping overhaul that is in (the) legislation.” Andrea Santiago, a spokeswoman for the Medicus Firm, said those numbers were the most striking. “Please allow me to emphasize that 96 percent of the physicians surveyed in our report are in favor of health reform, in some form or fashion,” she told CNSNews.com in an e-mail. “To me, the fact that so many physicians surveyed want health reform, but relatively few are in favor of the current legislation, was one of the most significant, telling results.” Congressional Democratic leaders, meanwhile, have said that doctors favor the bill and are part of an “unprecedented coalition” of doctors rooting for its passage. The claim is based on the American Medical Association’s endorsement of the legislation in Congress.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, in 2008 there were 661,400 physicians and surgeons within the United States. Of that number, 250,000 are members of the American Medical Association (AMA) -- and nearly 100,000 of those are medical students.
Santiago explained the AMA could not claim to represent all doctors, nor perhaps could any other group, and said the potentially massive shortage of physicians has stayed largely out of the debate because public figures have been trying to speak for doctors instead of speaking to them. “I think the reason it hasn’t become a big issue in the political debate is maybe because no one else has really thought about the effects of health reform on the physician workforce. Or, maybe people didn’t want to think about it, but as recruiters we can’t help but think about it and take notice,” she said. “If you are not talking to physicians every day about their career plans, it may not occur to someone that it would even be an issue. Plus, many public figures, media, and organizations are speaking for doctors in professional associations and groups, proclaiming ‘doctors want this.’ Without surveying each and every doctor, no one can claim that all doctors want this particular version of health reform, including us.” Santiago said one problem with a comprehensive bill was all the uncertainty about its effects that comes along with it. “When you’re on the phone with doctors each and every day, discussing their career plans, like we are as recruiters, you start to notice hot-buttons that are related to their career decisions, and health reform was increasingly and repeatedly coming up as an issue that was causing doctors apprehension when making career plans,” Santiago explained. “Many seemed frustrated by it. Part of it, I think, is fear of the unknown -- the current health reform bill is so large and all-encompassing, no one really knows for sure what will happen when/if this bill passes, so how does a physician make major career decisions when so much is hanging in the balance?”
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Hahahahahaaa...here maybe these guys will need to build Buggy Whips, retraining? yep your Doctor might just do that, you think the GOV telling them how much they can make after all the years of Med school and internship, that they will all work for 10 dollars an hr LOL!! gonna be just like Europe, funny thing is i had some students come and visit me from Poland back in the 80's and they said the tradesman made more than the Doctors because of socialized medicine, the Buggy whippers may be the retraining America needs. Nearly One-Third of Doctors Could Leave Medicine if Health-Care Reform Bill Passes, According to Survey Reported in New England Journal of Medicine Tuesday, March 16, 2010 By Christopher Neefus We're not in Poland,it's not the eighties, we're not a socialist country, and I think I would have to have a little more of my own homework before I run to the bank with some student's statement.By the way, I'm not so sure I would bank on mr. neefus's opinion on healthcare trends-HE IS A MARINE BIOLOGISTS AND PROFESSOR OF PLANT BIOLOGY.HE MIGHT AS WELL BE MR. DUFUS AS MUCH AS HE HAS TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER.Doctors meet with President Obama to discuss Meidcare and health-reform legislation. (AP photo) (CNSNews.com) - Nearly one-third of all practicing physicians may leave the medical profession if President Obama signs current versions of health-care reform legislation into law, according to a survey published in the latest issue of the New England Journal of Medicine. The survey, which was conducted by the Medicus Firm, a leading physician search and consulting firm based in Atlanta and Dallas, found that a majority of physicians said health-care reform would cause the quality of American medical care to “deteriorate” and it could be the “final straw” that sends a sizeable number of doctors out of medicine. More than 29 percent (29.2) percent of the nearly 1,200 doctors who responded to the survey said they would quit the profession or retire early if health reform legislation becomes law. If a public option were included in the legislation, as several liberal Senators have indicated they would like, the number would jump to 45.7 percent. The medical journal published the results in its March and April edition, saying: “While a sudden loss of half of the nations physicians seems unlikely, a very dramatic decrease in the physician workforce could become a reality as an unexpected side effect of health reform.” Kevin Perpetua, managing partner for the Medicus Firm, reported that a reform bill could be “the final straw” in an already financially precarious industry. “Many physicians feel that they cannot continue to practice if patient loads increase while pay decreases,” Perpetua said in the study. “The overwhelming prediction from physicians is that health reform, if implemented inappropriately, could create a detrimental combination of circumstances, and result in an environment in which it is not possible for most physicians to continue practicing medicine.” “With an average debt of $140,000, and many graduates approaching a quarter of a million dollars in school loans, being a doctor is becoming less and less feasible,” Perpetua said. “Health-care reform and increasing government control of medicine may be the final straw that causes the physician workforce to break down.” The survey shows that many doctors already find their situations difficult: -- 36 percent said that they would not recommend medicine as a profession to others, regardless of whether health-care reform passes; -- another 27 percent would still recommend medicine as a career, but not if the current reform proposal passes. In total, 63 percent of doctors would not recommend the profession after health-care reform passes. Just 12 percent do not recommend becoming a physician now but think they would if current reform proposals pass. Primary-care physicians, those who work in the critical fields of family and internal medicine, not only feel that they would want to quit but that they might be cast out of medicine. 46.3 percent of those physicians said that they would either want to leave medicine or that they would be “forced out” by the changes to the system.
Despite all the opposition to the bill as it stands, only a little more than 3 percent of respondents said the status quo was best, with the vast majority (62.7 percent) saying they believe changes are needed. The same 62.7 percent said they wanted reforms made, but that they “should be implemented in a more targeted, gradual way, as opposed to the sweeping overhaul that is in (the) legislation.” Andrea Santiago, a spokeswoman for the Medicus Firm, said those numbers were the most striking. “Please allow me to emphasize that 96 percent of the physicians surveyed in our report are in favor of health reform, in some form or fashion,” she told CNSNews.com in an e-mail. “To me, the fact that so many physicians surveyed want health reform, but relatively few are in favor of the current legislation, was one of the most significant, telling results.” Congressional Democratic leaders, meanwhile, have said that doctors favor the bill and are part of an “unprecedented coalition” of doctors rooting for its passage. The claim is based on the American Medical Association’s endorsement of the legislation in Congress.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, in 2008 there were 661,400 physicians and surgeons within the United States. Of that number, 250,000 are members of the American Medical Association (AMA) -- and nearly 100,000 of those are medical students.
Santiago explained the AMA could not claim to represent all doctors, nor perhaps could any other group, and said the potentially massive shortage of physicians has stayed largely out of the debate because public figures have been trying to speak for doctors instead of speaking to them. “I think the reason it hasn’t become a big issue in the political debate is maybe because no one else has really thought about the effects of health reform on the physician workforce. Or, maybe people didn’t want to think about it, but as recruiters we can’t help but think about it and take notice,” she said. “If you are not talking to physicians every day about their career plans, it may not occur to someone that it would even be an issue. Plus, many public figures, media, and organizations are speaking for doctors in professional associations and groups, proclaiming ‘doctors want this.’ Without surveying each and every doctor, no one can claim that all doctors want this particular version of health reform, including us.” Santiago said one problem with a comprehensive bill was all the uncertainty about its effects that comes along with it. “When you’re on the phone with doctors each and every day, discussing their career plans, like we are as recruiters, you start to notice hot-buttons that are related to their career decisions, and health reform was increasingly and repeatedly coming up as an issue that was causing doctors apprehension when making career plans,” Santiago explained. “Many seemed frustrated by it. Part of it, I think, is fear of the unknown -- the current health reform bill is so large and all-encompassing, no one really knows for sure what will happen when/if this bill passes, so how does a physician make major career decisions when so much is hanging in the balance?”
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