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« on: April 04, 2010, 10:41:41 AM » |
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I did this at home as well and it works. I will always run the beads from now on!! If u still think this is snake oil...then try it for yourself.
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2010, 11:06:51 AM » |
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YEAH IT'S FAKED!!!  i've had dyna beads in my cycle for a year now, best snake oil i've ever bought! (taste good too, and my psoriasis has gone away also!!) just a little pinch between the teeth and gums...... all sarcism a side, i'm sold on the product. anyone that thinks it's a scam should really do a test for them selves. they'll be surprised, i was.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2010, 07:45:47 AM » |
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Wow. Nice.
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2010, 11:05:52 AM » |
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I've had them in my Valk and my Magna for about a year now and both bikes run smooth. I also seem to be getting better wear from the tires. Probably due to the fact that the tires do not need rebalancing at the half way point because the beads always keeps them in balance no matter what the wear factor. Wheel weights don't compensate in that manner.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2010, 08:28:00 PM » |
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The worse mileage I ever got on a rear Cooper Zeon 2XS was 7,400 miles and its the only time I ever used the " magic balls " . Seems I'm not the only one who thinks they are snake oil.Its your money ...If it feels good do it...If it smells good eat it. Motorcycle Consumer News evaluated the Dyna Beads on a reader’s suggestion back in Oct. of 06. Although the tiny white ceramic beads have apparently found favor with long-haul truckers, we tested them on a Honda 599. Using a shop’s spin balancer, we checked the bike’s rear wheel, which had 1.6 oz. of balance weights in place. The balancer agreed with amount and location of the weights. After installing the specified 2 oz.’s of beads in the rear tire and then removing the rim weights, the balancer found an out of balance condition. The test was repeated five times and the balancer continued to call for the replacement of the 1.6 oz. weights in the same location. Over the road testing was next. Without the rim weights, the rear wheel produced noticeable vibration and the installation of the beads gave a barely perceptible improvement. Also, the weight of the beads added so close to the tire tread gave a noticeable increase in gyro stability, making the steering heavier. We also tried them on a car and were disappointed. Bottom line…Save your money for a proper spin balance. 
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2010, 10:18:41 PM » |
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not sure how it would work on a bike, but when I use to do emergency road side tire repairs on semi's, we would always put about a half of a gallon of anti-freeze in the steer tires to balance them and to let them run cooler. It worked great and was better than the stuff sold over the counter called " Equal " which is like dyna beads....except it is more like fine sand. Not sure I would want to put anti-freeze in my bike tires, not sure what it would do to the rims is the only reason.... Big Rick
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2010, 10:19:14 PM » |
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The worse mileage I ever got on a rear Cooper Zeon 2XS was 7,400 miles and its the only time I ever used the " magic balls " . Seems I'm not the only one who thinks they are snake oil.Its your money ...If it feels good do it...If it smells good eat it. Motorcycle Consumer News evaluated the Dyna Beads on a reader’s suggestion back in Oct. of 06. Although the tiny white ceramic beads have apparently found favor with long-haul truckers, we tested them on a Honda 599. Using a shop’s spin balancer, we checked the bike’s rear wheel, which had 1.6 oz. of balance weights in place. The balancer agreed with amount and location of the weights. After installing the specified 2 oz.’s of beads in the rear tire and then removing the rim weights, the balancer found an out of balance condition. The test was repeated five times and the balancer continued to call for the replacement of the 1.6 oz. weights in the same location. Over the road testing was next. Without the rim weights, the rear wheel produced noticeable vibration and the installation of the beads gave a barely perceptible improvement. Also, the weight of the beads added so close to the tire tread gave a noticeable increase in gyro stability, making the steering heavier. We also tried them on a car and were disappointed. Bottom line…Save your money for a proper spin balance.  what was the best milage you ever got on a copper zeon?
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2010, 04:02:25 AM » |
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The worse mileage I ever got on a rear Cooper Zeon 2XS was 7,400 miles and its the only time I ever used the " magic balls " . Seems I'm not the only one who thinks they are snake oil.Its your money ...If it feels good do it...If it smells good eat it. Motorcycle Consumer News evaluated the Dyna Beads on a reader’s suggestion back in Oct. of 06. Although the tiny white ceramic beads have apparently found favor with long-haul truckers, we tested them on a Honda 599. Using a shop’s spin balancer, we checked the bike’s rear wheel, which had 1.6 oz. of balance weights in place. The balancer agreed with amount and location of the weights. After installing the specified 2 oz.’s of beads in the rear tire and then removing the rim weights, the balancer found an out of balance condition. The test was repeated five times and the balancer continued to call for the replacement of the 1.6 oz. weights in the same location. Over the road testing was next. Without the rim weights, the rear wheel produced noticeable vibration and the installation of the beads gave a barely perceptible improvement. Also, the weight of the beads added so close to the tire tread gave a noticeable increase in gyro stability, making the steering heavier. We also tried them on a car and were disappointed. Bottom line…Save your money for a proper spin balance.  what was the best milage you ever got on a copper zeon? I took one off at around 11,700 ( the best mileage I ever got on a rear ...Cooper Zeon 2XS 205/55 car tire) however it should have been replaced much soon. I get close to 10,000 miles out of Cobra fronts and I like to get the same out of the rear thats why I went DarkSide in the first place. I was trashin' motorcycle rear Avon's at 5,000 miles. If I can get 10,000 I'm happy that way I mount new meat front and rear and service the final drive and splines all in one lick.I'm very hard on tires and for the record my bikes never leave the garage without the oil and tire pressure being checked ( 42 psi front ...35 psi rear car tire ) .I don't have chicken strips on my tires I use the whole thing  If y'all are happy with the little magic balls as stated before its your bike and your money as for me I still claim they are nothing more than snake oil and if you package s**t in a nice enough box someone will buy it.....Ride On   
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2010, 04:12:18 AM » |
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We had mounted two new Avon Cobras and (on a friend's advice) 2oz of dynabeads per tire about 150 miles ago. It may be too soon to tell, but all seems right so far. As an experiment on a ride Friday last, we hit a long straight and jumped Big Mama up to about 100mph briefly. All felt smooooooth as silk. We think we like the beads for now. As an aside, that big ole flat 6 is taching a bit over 4.5K rpm at 100mph, and she red lines at 6500. We are afraid to go much faster, but every time we run up to 100 we wonder how much more is there.  We trudge on (well balanced).
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2010, 04:24:30 AM » |
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but every time we run up to 100 we wonder how much more is there.  We trudge on (well balanced). On my bikes anyway you got about 25 to 28 more 
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2010, 05:25:55 AM » |
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As an aside, that big ole flat 6 is taching a bit over 4.5K rpm at 100mph, and she red lines at 6500. We are afraid to go much faster, but every time we run up to 100 we wonder how much more is there. By my calculation, you'd be indicating something close to 145 at redline in top gear. I really don't think you can do that.
You know, just my reaction, but every time I see your handle I wonder. It seems to me that trudging and Valkyries really don't normally go together. 
It's an unusual occurrence when I get the Valkyrie onto the flyway and don't at least tickle the century mark.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2010, 06:54:54 AM » |
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Thanks for the info, Joe. Based on other of your posts we have read, we expect your input to be "real world." To complete the hijacking of this dyna bead thread, a friend who owns a '98 Standard claims to have been a bit past (an indicated) 130mph on his. Willow's calculations are also interesting. For our part, we don't really care to actually go there. Big Mama makes highway speed just fine, and that is plenty. But it is interesting to consider.  We trudge on (at posted speed limits).
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2010, 06:58:36 AM » |
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I have never had mine indicate over 130. I have had it to 125 on a few ocassions, but I always run outta road.
I expect Joe is right... as once I get it to 125... the speedo is not climbing very fast any more.
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2010, 09:08:13 AM » |
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Last fall ran my Interstate up to 138 briefly. It got up to 125 rather quickly then to 132 more slowly and creeped up to 138 at which point the tach was registering a bit over 6K. ( At that speed you do not spend much time studying the gauges.) I felt like I was doing it too long and running out of pavement so I slowly backed off. I think about 6k in 5th gear throttle wide open is about all the carbs can handle. Location was the Bee Line Highway Route 87 from Mesa up to Fountain Hills on a Sunday morning about 8:00 a.m. with temps around 80 degrees. Valk was running on Chevron 89. On Sunday mornings this is a very quiet road. I first run South to check conditions then do a flip and run North to test out speed. That will be the last time as the bike started to feel a bit unstable over 125. I've run my Magna up that same stretch and got to 125 on it before I felt like I was getting sucked off the bike. ( No windshield.) Last year I did 165 on that same stretch in my Vette.
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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2010, 09:10:49 AM » |
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I have it on good authority that Dyna beads attract nails.
None for me.
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2010, 10:31:34 AM » |
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As an aside, that big ole flat 6 is taching a bit over 4.5K rpm at 100mph, and she red lines at 6500. We are afraid to go much faster, but every time we run up to 100 we wonder how much more is there.
Last summer crossing Utah on the way to Inzane, solo, fully loaded, big T-bag, 2002 Standard, 137 indicated, 6000 rpm. It may have had a bit more but I didn't, handling was fine. I learned that day it's not wise to ride triple digit speeds for long if you don't know the location of the next gas station. Redline
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2010, 11:29:54 AM » |
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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2010, 01:02:24 PM » |
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I had mine (after dyna-beads) up to about 125 to 128. But @300 pounds,if my bike stopped, real qiuck,when I finally hit the earth, the inpact might cause one of them sue-na-me's. So I slowed down. Besides I could smell my mustang seat burning and you know where it was sucked up into. 
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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2010, 02:34:39 PM » |
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Magic balls in the tires and a NOS oil filter cover....I'm thinkin' with that equipment Gary it would be a fun and frighten ride 
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2010, 03:44:04 PM » |
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The worse mileage I ever got on a rear Cooper Zeon 2XS was 7,400 miles and its the only time I ever used the " magic balls " . Seems I'm not the only one who thinks they are snake oil.Its your money ...If it feels good do it...If it smells good eat it. Motorcycle Consumer News evaluated the Dyna Beads on a reader’s suggestion back in Oct. of 06. Although the tiny white ceramic beads have apparently found favor with long-haul truckers, we tested them on a Honda 599. Using a shop’s spin balancer, we checked the bike’s rear wheel, which had 1.6 oz. of balance weights in place. The balancer agreed with amount and location of the weights. After installing the specified 2 oz.’s of beads in the rear tire and then removing the rim weights, the balancer found an out of balance condition. The test was repeated five times and the balancer continued to call for the replacement of the 1.6 oz. weights in the same location. Over the road testing was next. Without the rim weights, the rear wheel produced noticeable vibration and the installation of the beads gave a barely perceptible improvement. Also, the weight of the beads added so close to the tire tread gave a noticeable increase in gyro stability, making the steering heavier. We also tried them on a car and were disappointed. Bottom line…Save your money for a proper spin balance.  Here you go Joe...this guy has made the offer "Zimmerman of motorcycle cruiser mag" Their contention is that using a car tire on the rear of their motorcycles, (and let me be clear on that point, nowhere did I see anything suggesting that using a car tire on the front of the bike was a good idea,) offers certain advantages, primarily: car tires are cheaper and last longer than bike tires, and they also offer a smoother ride. While the last raised my eyebrows the first two are reasonable points, so I can certainly understand why the owner of a big inch road burner, particularly one that racks up lots of miles and burns through two or three tires a year would find the idea intriguing. But here's the problem; Car tires are fundamentally unsuited for use on motorcycles. Moreover, that's not just my opinion but also the opinion of every tire engineer I've ever discussed this with. We all understand that the dynamics of motorcycles and cars are vastly different. As such, they demand different types of tires and at the risk of great over simplification I'd point out that if a car type tire worked well on a motorcycle everything from a moped to a MotoGP bike would be wearing them as standard equipment.[/font] The fact that they can even be used on a big cruiser says more about the way those bikes are designed and ridden than it does about the suitability of using a car tire on one. According to most of what I read on the Darkside (and similar forums) none of that matters. Some dispute the facts provided by the tire manufacturers and at least one guy said he didn't much care what the facts were. He liked his car tire and even if side by side testing showed that the motorcycle tire was superior, he was going to keep on running it. It's hard to argue with logic like that. Knowing what I do about the dynamics of motorcycles, (and to be fair here I'm not a big fan of overly wide motorcycle tires either) I think I'll put my faith in the engineering staffs at Dunlop, Avon, and Metzler etc, and stick with motorcycle tires on my bikes, at least until someone can prove me wrong. Along those lines, I'll make a standing offer to any Darksider. Since I don't own a motorcycle that'll accept a car tire, and I'm fairly sure Honda would have a hemmorage if I installed one on my long term VTX, I'm going to ask one of you guys to hook me up. If you're game, we'll meet some sunny Sunday and take a ride. I'll show you some of my favorite roads and I'll even spring for lunch. If the car tire works as well as you say it does, I'll be happy to say so in print, you've got my and Motorcycle Cruiser's word on it. Any takers? July 2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2010, 03:46:41 PM » |
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Good come back Jesse
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