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gabby
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« on: April 08, 2010, 01:54:36 PM »

 Undecided :'(I think I got a major problem with bruenhilde.  I have a 99 i/s green and silver and absolutely fell in love with it as soon as I saw it last year. anyway, I finnally felt strong enough after having a heart attack, five bypasses and a defibulator done in 2009. I tried to go out and run it to keep the oil pressure, oil, fuel and fuel working correctly. ended up that she needed all carbs cleaned and acid washed. She was running greatly from the dealer. Parked it for the winter and went to start for the season---when ----grinding noise---gears sounded bad----starter spinning and not connecting to anything.
Does it mean that she is over for the summer and unable to go out and feel the wind?
Any ideas would be appreciated and maybe some idea what it will cost for hydolacked motor.

Gabby
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2010, 02:14:36 PM »

sounds like you need the repair, but it shouldn't have to be down for the summer...it's barely spring.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2010, 02:58:25 PM »

Can't tell what the cost is for repairs, but I do know that won't hurt the engine any, just the starter gear and the gears it meshes with. Don't go getting your feathers ruffled, obviously you have recovered very well and doing good. Continue to take care of yourself, I know also that a Valkryie is a great bike and will wait on your full recovery. As was stated in previous post, it is only early spring. This is a short repair. Other techs will probably chime  in to let you know the specifics and approx. cost.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2010, 04:43:16 PM »

If you are hydrolocked, and depending on how much damage was sustained, repairs form a reputable shop can cost anywhere from $1,000 to $1,500. Labor costs are through the roof  Sad
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2010, 06:06:19 PM »

As a safety measure when ya get it fixed,  SHUT of the gas everytime ya park it till you get a rebuild or pengel gas valve.......

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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2010, 07:35:26 PM »

Pretty simple remedy, RJ, started out that way back in the day, I NEVER forget to turn the fuel off, sometimes I forget when starting up to turn it on, but that don't cause no hydrolock. +1 on the pingel.  Hoser
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2010, 04:25:31 AM »

Thanks all,
She does have a pingel valve that was put in when I had the carbs cleaned. I had brought it home and put it in the barn. There was no fuel in bowls as I ran the bike enough to use it all up. I had a battery tender on it to keep the battery charged and thought the battery and relay was bad, so I replaced both. When I atempted to turn it over--that was when the gears sounded like they broke. The starter was running as though it was not connected to any gears. I took off the cover to make sure that the motor was not locked up and it did turn over. At least that part relieved my mind. I will call today and get some sort of an idea what or when that my dealer can get to it.
Thanks again and hope to share some wind soon on U.S. 119 on Black Mountain, the highest point in Ky.

Gabby
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2010, 05:49:24 AM »

    If there was no fuel in the bowls it should not be a hydrolock.  That comes from the fuel filling one or more cylinders.  @ things have to happen to cause that 1 leaking petcock.  2 leaking float valve in carb.
    Sounds more like a bad starter gear.  Start with the simple (cheap crap first).  I would remove the starter and check it and its mating gear before I went to a mechanic for his, probably expensive opinion.
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2010, 09:14:19 AM »

    If there was no fuel in the bowls it should not be a hydrolock.  That comes from the fuel filling one or more cylinders.  @ things have to happen to cause that 1 leaking petcock.  2 leaking float valve in carb.
    Sounds more like a bad starter gear.  Start with the simple (cheap crap first).  I would remove the starter and check it and its mating gear before I went to a mechanic for his, probably expensive opinion.

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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2010, 06:30:34 PM »

Undecided :'(I think I got a major problem with bruenhilde.  I have a 99 i/s green and silver and absolutely fell in love with it as soon as I saw it last year. anyway, I finnally felt strong enough after having a heart attack, five bypasses and a defibulator done in 2009. I tried to go out and run it to keep the oil pressure, oil, fuel and fuel working correctly. ended up that she needed all carbs cleaned and acid washed. She was running greatly from the dealer. Parked it for the winter and went to start for the season---when ----grinding noise---gears sounded bad----starter spinning and not connecting to anything.
Does it mean that she is over for the summer and unable to go out and feel the wind?
Any ideas would be appreciated and maybe some idea what it will cost for hydolacked motor.
Gabby


did u have seafoam in the fuel?


http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum/203184-seafoam-contains-10-20-isopropyl-alcohol-ipa.html
"Seafoam will absorb small amounts of water. What it will not fix is E10 that has phase separated.
PALE OILS are light coloured, non-staining naphthenic oils refined from specially selected wax-free crude through the use of severe hydrogenation. This process produces oils of excellent initial colour and colour stability while maintaining their compatibility with most synthetic elastomers. With a flash point of 330 degreee F or more. E10 flash point is around -40 degrees F. Diesel is around 143 degrees F by the way. Have you ever wondered why Seafoam will stall your gasoilne engine unless you rev the piss out of it. Well now you know; the stuff does not want to go BOOM.
Naphtha flash point is a little lower then gasoline. If want to buy Naphtha go buy some Coleman Stove Fuel.
Seafoam has a flash point of 55 degrees F and gasoline is -40 degrees F. That is why when you pour it in a carb the engine wants to die.
Bottom line is the stuff seems to work in the old 2 cycle outboards I have tried. Now filling the racor with straight seafoam seems like you are asking for trouble. The stuff does not want to burn like gasoline and by filling the racor that is exactly you are trying to do.

Anybody hydrolocked a motor trying this?"
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2010, 06:24:53 PM »

Hey All,
Got to pull the starter this morning and found the started bendix was eat up and two teeth on the primary gear in the corner were broken off. Don't know which came first-the bendix or the broken teeth that worked the magic of a failure. I called  a few wing friends that have the 1500 cc engine and they gave me some sound advice to let my dealer check it out and crack the case to repair the gears and lube the u joints, pumpkin, and any other things while they are taking the engine out.
It is going to be aboout two weeks before they can work me in,     so time to get the Aero out and burn the highways around eastern Ky. virginia and West Virginia.  Good to have a spare and get over P M S=   parked  motorcycle  syndrom.
Thanks everyone for your help -always the best group anywhere to get info on the best bike of the century!!!!


Gabby
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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2010, 04:52:29 AM »

Howdy ya"ll,
     I got Bruenhilde back from the dealer yesterday and it was not as bad as I had expected. The dealer tech found the primary drive and driven gears as well as the starter primary ATE 27 teeth. It was quite a sight to see the motor and all the surrounding pieces strewn across the tables and lift. He also checked the u-joint and shaft and lubed them as they were already out. The clutches were in great shape and all the rest of the gearing was fine. She is so pretty in her green and silver blouse and skirt and I cleaned and waxed every part that shows and some that don't. He has told me to check two lights that he was not sure how they were hooked up. They were to the green lights on the rear box and the small one on the forks. I am not sure where the other light wire goes to but when it quits raining I will pull the right cover off and also check the wiring to the radio as it does not come on. The tech may have unplugged it or it may not be making a good connection.

Anyway---Bruenhilde will soon be burning the hills of eastern Ky. up. I am so looking forward to showing her just how beautiful the hills of KY-Wva-Va. and how pungent the smell of wild roses is right now. Thanks to everyone for keeping me hopeful and helping me from going nuts from not having my Phat Lady at home.  She shore does sound like she wants to go meet the highways and byways.  Safe riding and enjoy the winds of your respective areas.

Gabby
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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2010, 06:32:37 AM »

Happy for You, enjoy.
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2010, 06:46:15 AM »

Did they fix the cause of the hydrolock??
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2010, 12:30:52 PM »

Did they fix the cause of the hydrolock??

Ya beat me to that question Brother.......
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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2010, 05:09:02 PM »

Did they fix the cause of the hydrolock??

Ya beat me to that question Brother.......

I think it was determined to be other issues and NOT a hydrolock problem, but I could be wrong.  Cool
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2010, 01:45:26 PM »

Greetings and salutations to all,
     I got an opportunity to check out what was repaired last week to Bruenhilde and it seems that a few electrical troubles have reared their ugly heads. The fog lights would not come on, the rear clearance lights did come on, and there is a strange single led lit on the digital display-no other info on am-fm-cb-aux-time--just a single led.  I attacked the control box for the fog light-clearance light first as it was the easiest to get to. It was just as I had expected-FRIED WIRING. I took out the wiring and followed it to the lights and removed them. One of the fog lights was melted in the housing. Naturally, the wiring was under the fuel tank and it had to be taken off to see if other wiring was affected. It was alright with no burned places.
     Now came the moment of truth, was radio unit fried as well?  pulled all the plugins out and checked them for bad spots. none found. The stupid led was still on as I pulled the plugs apart, naturally I lubed them on replacement, one at a time. Still the led stayed on!!! I next started to pull each of the fuses to see if one of them could give me a clue where to look next. When I pulled the 15 amp fuse for the AUDIO BACKUP, a relay clicked after maybe 5 sec. and the light went out.  Still no info showing as to time-am-fm-cb-aux, just blank.
     NOW MY QUESTION :  where is this audio backup-switch-relay-or what ever located on the bike. I ain't got a clue as my Clymers book does not show or tell me where it may be. Is it inside the radio unit itself or is it somewhere within the depths of blackness that I can't see? I tried to listen for the relay to click, but it is a very quiet click that I can just barely hear on the left side.  If any of you very capable and knowlegable individuals could enlighten me on this very perplexing lost device hiding from me, I want to find that sucker and rip its guts out and say a few unkind words to it.  Just kidding... I would like to find out if it needs replaced or just plugged back in to make the display work and I can HEAR MY TUNES  !!!
     Thanks for all the help that each of you have given..I want Bruenhilde to Feel The Wind ruffled under her Silver skirt and across her Green blouse and soft padded seat. She will like that I think!!!

Gabby
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2010, 06:46:29 AM »

Go to rattlebars.com and look at the schematics there to help you locate it.

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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2010, 10:12:02 AM »

Hello All,
     I attempted to take my phat lady out for a short ride today and discovered a small but major problem----I AM NOT TALL ENOUGH to hold her up. I am about an inch and half too short to hold her up when stopping. She rides wonderful as long as she is moving---BUT when I got to stop---She wants to fall.   I am sorry---BUT I ain't near strong enough to hold her green and silver body up when I have to stop.
   So I guess all the physical therapy and sweat for two years was for nothing---I can NOT take the chance of having another heart attack from trying to hold her up when stopping. My only means of thought----someone with the desire to ride the bike of the century that is green-silver- interstate can purchase a truely beautiful Phat Lady. I know that I should list it in the advertise section, but I am hoping someone around the eastern Ky-southern Wv-western Va. area will take an interest in her. She seems to like this area from where she came from-sitting outside with no cover-garage-or even a tent to protect her. I have cleaned her-de-rusted the nuts, had the carbs cleaned out from sitting- and had all the driver-driven gearing changed by the dealer-and added a few extra goodies so she looks and rides like a beautiful lady.
     So, what am I supposed to do. I cannot ride her cause I am too short.    ACCEPT IT  I suppose..

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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2010, 10:21:09 AM »

lower the bike?
lower and narrower seat? narrower usually makes more of a difference than a lower seat.
limit the higher center of gravity?  remove the trunk, go to smaller std tank or only put 5 gallons in the 7 gallon tank.
heart problems research the importance of magnesium for heart health wwwmgwater.com and how high fructose corn syrup and how it depletes the body of magnesium. PM me if u want more heart health info.
just some thoughts.
good luck and God Bless.
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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2010, 11:44:17 AM »

     gabby,   I sent you a PM.
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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2010, 12:02:41 PM »

Its not that hard to lower the bike.  My wife is 5' even with a 28" inseam.  To make it where she could ride her Tourer, we slipped the front forks 3/4", put 11.5" shocks on the back, trimmed a little foam from the front of the seat and put Deuce risers on it to bring the bars back a little.  She's still can't flat foot it, but as long as she doesn't stop with the bike on a high spot, she doesn't have any problem with it.
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2010, 02:16:17 PM »

If this your ad, and you really only want 8 bucks for her, I'll take her off your hands. I promise that she will get more than 15 miles in 15 minutes!



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Item: 1999 Valkyrie Interstate
Price: =/- $ 8,00
Location: pikeville, KY, US
Email: dannyrayhayes@gmail.com

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Bruenhilde is up for sale due to me being too short and health reasons. I regret that I am unable to ride MY PHAT LADY, but alas: I am just too close to the ground. She is the green/silver combination and has had only 15 miles ridden by me of her 46,000 showing on the clock. Please her by taking her for a long ride as I can not.
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gabby
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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2010, 02:34:30 PM »

M y bad.   Should have read---+/- $ 8,000.00. It is worth a lot more, BUT  I want someone to share the dream of Bruenhilde.
 
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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2010, 12:02:39 PM »

Gabby,, if you really want to continue to ride and if you really like this bike,, then what RP said is not too expensive and is easy to do..
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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2010, 05:35:59 PM »

Yoy can go to shorter shocks in the rear, a 55 series CT (darkside) will also lower the rear. You can slip the front forks up about 3/4 an inch to lower the front. Low rider seat will also help you to reach the asphalt. TNT runs over on the BBB  and she has hers about as low as you can get one. You try to get some help over there.
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