Houdini
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« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2010, 03:45:18 PM » |
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Congrats! I had a $200 tow bill from Decatur to Allen because of a pinion cup failure. Isn't there a weep hole for oil to get into the pinion for lube? Is yours plugged?
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Daniel Meyer
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« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2010, 03:45:37 PM » |
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Yep...That's the spot!
Shaft and cup together run around 80 new if I recall.
But..since you're rear pumpkin is worn too...if you can find the entire thing (shaft/drive) in good shape they typically go for under 200.
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Serk
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« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2010, 07:44:32 PM » |
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I'm on my way to pick up a supposedly good shape pumpkin with all relevant parts, shaft, and matching star for $300... Prolly coulda done a little better if I shopped around, but with the Valk in parts in the garage, well... That has a certain higher price on it right there...  |
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Wanderer
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« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2010, 10:42:42 PM » |
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Congrats! I had a $200 tow bill from Decatur to Allen because of a pinion cup failure. Isn't there a weep hole for oil to get into the pinion for lube? Is yours plugged?
Plugged? More like the Sahara Desert sand dunes of pinion cup dust! Been plugged forEVER! Worst I have ever seen. Count yourself very fortunate to be doing elective surgery rather than sitting on the side of the road, Brian. ~Jeff |
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Serk
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« Reply #44 on: April 22, 2010, 10:52:16 PM » |
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Yup, very lucky indeed... Glad I listened to the lil' voice that started nagging me watching Dave doing his impromptu maintenance at Hot Glue's that kept saying "Time to check things out, that could be YOU! And you wouldn't be so lucky to have it fail at a large Valkyrie rider gathering either!"
Much thanks to Wanderer for finding the parts, and much thanks for Dave for driving to Kansas and bringing the parts back to Oklahoma for me! Can't believe I forgot the star at your place, guess we'll be hooking up Friday so I can get the last part and try to get this finished off...
Gonna go out to the garage and start cleaning up the new pumpkin and getting it ready... I think I'm gonna go through a few paper towels de-greasing it, and also cleaning out the innards of the shaft housing on my bike too... Fun times, fun times...
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Daniel Meyer
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« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2010, 06:17:54 AM » |
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Clean the pinion cup and shaft end...the end has an indentation that will hold crud...poke a small wire tie in the holes in the bottom of the cup (two of them, opposite each other, at the edge of the nut)...it won't go all the way through but make sure they are cleaned out. When assembling...a light coat of grease (not paste) on the pinion joint...it's just assembly lube...the rear end oil gets up in there to lube it while running. Stuff the shaft in the pinion cup...make sure the seal goes as far down as it can. Remember, swing arm ABOVE horizontal to shove that puppy in. Line up the 4 bolts and wiggle the crap out of it. Change the rear end lube. Check that joint/clear the crud out of it every 10-20,000 miles...it collects any crud from the rear end (spins it out like a centrifical filter). If you don't maintain it, it clogs up and then does what yours did. 1000 mile test ride recommended  |
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Serk
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« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2010, 02:18:37 PM » |
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Once again... Thank you, thank you, a thousand times, thank you, to all of ya'll!
Valk's back together. Little annoying, but not as bad as I feared it would be, everything's lubed, moly'ed, torque'd, etc (And I paid attention to the order of tightening things back down this time too!)
Did a brief test ride, so far so good... Gonna head back out for a little longer now... It might just be the placebo effect, but I swear that even just pushing the bike around in neutral, its' MUCH smoother, easier rolling now then it's been lately...
Now to start putting the parts together for the fork oil change, but at least the BIG UGLY one is done now!!!
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« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2010, 04:10:30 PM » |
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I ...ur... snagged your pinion cup pics for future posts about the subject if that's okay with you (or maybe even a shop-talk article if I get around to it)
Glad you got-er-done. The pinion cup of yours was soon to leave you standing...
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« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2010, 04:26:33 PM » |
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Daniel - Not a problem at all, in fact, I was gonna see if someone wanted to try to get some better pictures of it for just that purpose... (The pictures I took were not taken under exactly the best conditions...)
30ish mile test ride done... I love the spousal unit's ST1300, but it's SO nice to have my rolling La-Z-Boy back!!!
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« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2010, 04:32:53 PM » |
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Get a few miles on that old pumpkin gear lube and change it out while it is good and warm! Good use of synthetic, imo. Quiets things down enough to notice back yonder.
Thanks much Patron for letting go of your backup Valk parts. Now, who is going to be the "holder of the spares"? I have a couple of pretty good guesses. ~Jeff
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« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2010, 06:48:13 PM » |
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Well, ok Mr. Serk, you have convinced me to check mine and possibly replace the u-joint while I have mine apart in a few weeks to go DS. Might as well replace the joint while I have it apart. I am replacing the wheel bearings, dampeners, and u-joint at this point. I will look the pinion cup over pretty good before putting it back together. Man, thanks to B.A.D. for the reality check on the rear end stuff... Did that come out right..??? Hay  Jimmyt |
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« Reply #51 on: April 23, 2010, 08:44:39 PM » |
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