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Mike in AR
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« on: April 26, 2010, 05:31:32 PM »

I am replacing my OEM shocks with Progressive 412 HD's. Got the left one replaced. While putting the right one on. finally got the bottom bolt in, and was tightening up the top bolt the head snapped off. Pulled the shock off of the top, hoping it was not broken off even. No such luck. Not being real mechanically inclined, and with few tools at my disposal, how do I get the rest of the bolt out so I can replace it?  Or have I really buggered things up beyond help?  TIA
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2010, 05:37:42 PM »

you should be able to remove and replace the upper shock bolt. 

http://fiche.ronayers.com/Index.cfm/Module/Main/TypeID/26/Type/Motorcycle/MakeID/1/Make/Honda/YearID/40/Year/1999/ModelID/4617/Model/GL1500CT/GroupID/142526/Group/REAR_SHOCK_ABSORBER

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I have drilled and tapped a friend's upper shock bolt when it broke off.  Not an easy task but it worked...luckily.  Their bike didn't have a replaceable shock mount. 

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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2010, 06:37:31 PM »

It's hard to imagine breaking that big bolt off!

Some have misunderstood the manual and tried torquing the small bolt that holds the hard bag mount and break that bolt easily.

If you used anti-seize (and you should) the part left in the threads ought to come right on out!

Cut a groove and use a flat blade screwdriver to turn it out.

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Mike in AR
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2010, 06:45:33 PM »

JoeValkIS, Thanks for the link. Have ordered parts from HDL. RickyD, it was the small bolt, not the big one. Many thanks. This has got to be the greatest club around.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2010, 06:54:38 AM »

When mine broke, the torque wrench hadn't even begun to click but I was able to ruen mine out with a nut pick.

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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2010, 01:52:57 PM »

Hopefully you weren't bit by the typo on honda service manual page 14-1 which has the shock upper mounting bolt torque of 64 Nm (47ft-lb).

The correct value is 26Nm(20 ft/lb) on page 14-10 and page 1-16.  Just about made that mistake the first time pulling the shocks.

Best of luck and ride safe.

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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2010, 03:09:32 PM »

sounds awfully familiar....the threaded portion should back right out with a pick and a little patience since the head is no longer there.  You can get a metric replacement bolt at your local Ace hardware...the Honda one is pricey...especially with the S/H.
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2010, 11:26:55 PM »

Here's a little tool that knowone should be without.  My son bought it for me a couple of years ago and it has saved my you know what a number of times now.  There are a number of different models but this is the one I have:

Alden 8440P proGrabit Damaged Screw & Bolt Extractor

Bell shaped drill head helps you stay on center
Works on jagged, uneven and rough breaks – no bolt preparation required
Self-centering drill tip means no walking or wondering
Deep serrated edges – biting action results in greater torque for hard to remove bolts
Quick connect compatible
Removes bolts ¼”, 5/16”, 3/8”, ½”, 6mm, 8mm, 10mm, and 12mm
Use with 3/8” variable speed reversible drill
Drills up to grade 8 and 10.9 class bolts
Also includes a specialty extractor for rusted, hard to remove bolts

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/ALDEN-CORP--4017P-/22-10980
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2010, 02:21:41 AM »

Here's a little tool that knowone should be without.  My son bought it for me a couple of years ago and it has saved my you know what a number of times now.  There are a number of different models but this is the one I have:

Alden 8440P proGrabit Damaged Screw & Bolt Extractor

Bell shaped drill head helps you stay on center
Works on jagged, uneven and rough breaks – no bolt preparation required
Self-centering drill tip means no walking or wondering
Deep serrated edges – biting action results in greater torque for hard to remove bolts
Quick connect compatible
Removes bolts ¼”, 5/16”, 3/8”, ½”, 6mm, 8mm, 10mm, and 12mm
Use with 3/8” variable speed reversible drill
Drills up to grade 8 and 10.9 class bolts
Also includes a specialty extractor for rusted, hard to remove bolts

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/ALDEN-CORP--4017P-/22-10980


Those drill outs are nice, but you can get them at your sears store instead of ordering them on line, and they are a bit spendy.  They do make a “left hand” drill bit that sometimes will pull the head out as you drill it, they make a thing called easy outs http://www.brokentap.com/easy-outs.html  that every tool box should have.  They’re really cheap compared to the drill outs, they cost about $3 at the auto shop store.  Just one thing about the easy outs, they’re made of harder metal then your drill bit, so if you break it off in your bolt, you’ll hate yourself!  Squirt some “liquid wrench” on the broken bolt when you use the easy outs, that’ll help also. 

I’ve sometimes used a nail punch tool on one edge of the broken screw, with a hammer, and at an angle, tapped the broken screw counter clockwise until it comes out.  It’s a little tricky, but it can be done.

Good luck, it’s not the end of the world, I’ve done it quite a bit.
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Mike in AR
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2010, 03:31:23 AM »

Thank you all for the links, and the advice. Even though I have already ordered the bolts, I may try to get the broken part out, just to have a spare. With my luck, I need all the spares I can get. lol I have said it before, this is the greatest club ever.
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2010, 03:55:37 AM »

you know mike, if you want, i'll come down and do it for you.  i really could use a good long road trip to a warmer climate!!!  Grin
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Mike in AR
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2010, 03:46:37 PM »

Alph, I've got a spare room for you, but I should warn you the weather forcast for the next 3 or 4 days is RAIN. lol
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