Pulled by a 110 incher

[judd]

A buddy of mine has an 09 110 Street Glide, we did a 60 MPH roll on twice and he outrun me both times,     We also did a run through the gears from a rolling start and I pulled him by a couple of lengths.    I have a 00 Tourer with Packs and Stacks and a 6 degree Trigger wheel, I wonder what the outcome might be if I put the stock trigger wheel back in. ...............Anyone else  ever come up a against a 110 incher, what was your experience?   

[Warlock]

A buddy of mine has an 09 110 Street Glide, we did a 60 MPH roll on twice and he outrun me both times,     We also did a run through the gears from a rolling start and I pulled him by a couple of lengths.    I have a 00 Tourer with Packs and Stacks and a 6 degree Trigger wheel, I wonder what the outcome might be if I put the stock trigger wheel back in. ...............Anyone else  ever come up a against a 110 incher, what was your experience?   

He should pull with all the torque he has. But you got him by 2 while running thru the gears. I think you done good.
David

[fstsix]

The shame   110 in Screaming Eagle @ 100+ HP @ a cost of $25.000-$35.000 dollars depending on what model, It should be bad to the bone.....but my Valk was 12.900 brand new so i could have bought 3 Valks at the price of a Ultra Classic Screaming Eagle. Have no fear for about 6000 dollars i have ran down S&S 125 ci Customs and Pi$$ed them off with my Bagger they didn't know WT.. happened LOL!!!!

[Sonny]

From a dead stop to about 100+ I pull away from most other big bikes and my 99 Standard only has the 6 degree timing wheel. Other than that she's bone stock with 40,000 miles on it. But when I reach a little past a 100 thats it.  The fastest I've ever been able to wind her up is about 119.  I have several friends that ride newer Harley's.  Most of them run good write on past 100.   But like fstsix says at 25 to 35,000 they better run.   I also have 03 1800 VTX-C  other than a the crotch rockets have not found much that pulls away from me at top end. 

I never feel bad about getting passed at top end.  I jsut enjoy the ride getting there!

[Tropic traveler]

For the money those things cost it oughta whup everything on the road & then make you dinner too!
If he gives you any grief over it, tell him you'll try it again at 100K miles.... no rebuilds allowed! 

Or... try him with a '97 model. They are the fastest you know! 


And if that doesn't do it, get one of these! 


You could own both with $$$ left over compared to what he laid out. 
 

[GreenLantern57]

From a dead stop to about 100+ I pull away from most other big bikes and my 99 Standard only has the 6 degree timing wheel. Other than that she's bone stock with 40,000 miles on it. But when I reach a little past a 100 thats it.  The fastest I've ever been able to wind her up is about 119.  I have several friends that ride newer Harley's.  Most of them run good write on past 100.   But like fstsix says at 25 to 35,000 they better run.   I also have 03 1800 VTX-C  other than a the crotch rockets have not found much that pulls away from me at top end. 

I never feel bad about getting passed at top end.  I jsut enjoy the ride getting there!

I do not know if the bike I bought has standard or degreed timing wheels, but I had her up to 135 on the speedometer and had more throttle than nerves at that time. Is your experience normal for the newer bikes?  Mine is a 97.

[motorjock]

I too have had my 2000 Interstate up in the 135 range before, and I'd be scared to death to ride a Harley at over 100 MPH....Hell, they scare me just sitting still...LOL

[judd]

 I have no problem with the fact that he pulled me, as has been said he ought to be able to (1800cc vs 1500 cc) Since I put the 6 degree TW in (years ago now) I can hit 115 easily enough but anything over that is a bit of a struggle.  I just wonder if the stock trigger wheel will do a little better in a top gear roll on, I figure It may also give up a little to a run through the gears.  I'm too lazy to switch 'em out to find out for myself. 

[highcountry]

As other have said above, we Valk owners have a much better bang for the buck than overpriced HDs.  The way our bikes look, handle, brake, etc., there is little comparison.  When I have the need for speed, this is my other bike:



And both of them cost me a total of $14K.

[Tropic traveler]

I have no problem with the fact that he pulled me, as has been said he ought to be able to (1800cc vs 1500 cc) Since I put the 6 degree TW in (years ago now) I can hit 115 easily enough but anything over that is a bit of a struggle.  I just wonder if the stock trigger wheel will do a little better in a top gear roll on, I figure It may also give up a little to a run through the gears.  I'm too lazy to switch 'em out to find out for myself.  

As a rule of thumb, advancing the timing gives you more low end grunt {hence the better run through the gears} at the expense of pure top gear speed. A 60 mph roll on probably misses the sweet spot that the 6 degree wheel enhances. Try him again on a 60 mph roll on with you starting out in 3rd or 4th gear. I'll bet you'll do much better. The flat 6 Honda has a whole different rpm/power range than a big twin does, gotta ride it differently to get the most out of it.
This is just a generalization as a LOT of other factors can play into contests of speed!  

[Tropic traveler]

As other have said above, we Valk owners have a much better bang for the buck than overpriced HDs.  The way our bikes look, handle, brake, etc., there is little comparison.  When I have the need for speed, this is my other bike:



And both of them cost me a total of $14K.

Aw jeez highcountry..... you're missing out on all that legendary heritage & mystique by owning the 2 bikes that you have.  
Great pair of bikes you have there.
Not to mention the awesome line of clothes!!!!!!

And yes, I do have to ask 'cause I sure don't see it!  

[eric in md]

yes they pull good at 60 mph thats there prime sweet spot. like everyone said run fro dead stop see the results.  or run a 100 all day long and see where he is?   

[98valk]

I have no problem with the fact that he pulled me, as has been said he ought to be able to (1800cc vs 1500 cc) Since I put the 6 degree TW in (years ago now) I can hit 115 easily enough but anything over that is a bit of a struggle.  I just wonder if the stock trigger wheel will do a little better in a top gear roll on, I figure It may also give up a little to a run through the gears.  I'm too lazy to switch 'em out to find out for myself. 

"According to Hondatek's data the 1520 will actually lose 1 HP per degree over 26 total. This is why you might lose top end with just an advanced TW. It will advance the timing across the entire curve giving you too much at redline." 
u can see the stock curves in the link also.
http://timskelton.com/valkyrie/tech/trigger_wheel_plus_dyna3000.htm

[Hoser]

HD 110 incher, dynos 92 HP 120 ft lbs tork, Honda stock, dynos 100 HP 98 ft lbs tork.  I'd be a fool to roll on with him in 5th at 60 mph, he'd be a fool to run me 0 to 100!  hoser 

[fudgie]

I believe you can take the older models of Screaming Eagles. At least thats what 1 guy that owned one told me.

[godfire]

"According to Hondatek's data the 1520 will actually lose 1 HP per degree over 26 total. This is why you might lose top end with just an advanced TW. It will advance the timing across the entire curve giving you too much at redline." 
u can see the stock curves in the link also.
http://timskelton.com/valkyrie/tech/trigger_wheel_plus_dyna3000.htm

Good info...Thanks

[Momz]

Last summer I ran across I guy on a HD Nightrain and at every light he wanted to race me. Now I'm on my Rat Rod Valk and I blew him away at three stoplights before he went on his merry way.
I went on to our Monday Bike Night (in Plymouth MI) and parked and I went about socializing with my biker buds. Not long after that same dude on the Nightrain pulls onto our street and parks by a local bar, walks over and proceeds to bitch at me for cheating!
l couldn't understand his ranting until he accused me of hiding a nitrous bottle on my Valk. I said "look all you want, there's no nitrous on my bike". He did get on his knees in hopes to find a bottle. He claimed that no one had ever beat him,....ever. He claimed to have a "Stage Three" kit on his bike and even sportbike riders won't race him.
All I could do was chuckle, as did most of us around this idiot. He was certainly pissed and left in a hurry, gunning his pipes and reving the crap out of his motor.

[Hoser]

Last summer I ran across I guy on a HD Nightrain and at every light he wanted to race me. Now I'm on my Rat Rod Valk and I blew him away at three stoplights before he went on his merry way.
I went on to our Monday Bike Night (in Plymouth MI) and parked and I went about socializing with my biker buds. Not long after that same dude on the Nightrain pulls onto our street and parks by a local bar, walks over and proceeds to bitch at me for cheating!
l couldn't understand his ranting until he accused me of hiding a nitrous bottle on my Valk. I said "look all you want, there's no nitrous on my bike". He did get on his knees in hopes to find a bottle. He claimed that no one had ever beat him,....ever. He claimed to have a "Stage Three" kit on his bike and even sportbike riders won't race him.
All I could do was chuckle, as did most of us around this idiot. He was certainly pissed and left in a hurry, gunning his pipes and reving the crap out of his motor.

Sometimes the truth hurts!  hoser 

[art]

I too have done 135mph with my 02 standard an also 0-100-0 in les than 19 seconds with bags an fullsize windshield

[czuch]

135 here too. Smoothe and stable.
97 Tourer. Went back for a glove one of the guy's wives dropped and figured I'd have a long run back to the group. I took off and one of the others who went back too tried to stay up. NOT !HAHA.

[fstsix]

Harley Davidson 100+ Horse power club> includes the 110, Still Air Cooled, did over a year of research before i bought the Valk, could have bought any factory cruiser i wanted, i had all intentions of Turbo or Blown for this bike...either one of these options would never been considered with out water jackets around my cylinders and the 100000 mile warranty Bill from Magnacharger gave me was hard to resist, 7 years of flat out hard riding and it is Amazing it stills scares me But even with the torque upwards of 130+ i still will drop down to 4th at a roll on against a Big ci V twin, my max torque is in a different spot than the V twin and when i do this in 4th i am at full Boost and it keeps boosting into 8000 rpm he Aint gonna catch me    http://www.alefshd.com/custompage.asp?pg=club 

[big turkey]

Top Speed on a 1998 Tourer is 128 on flat ground, backed up by GPS.

That's with the big stock Winshield and Bags.

This is verified.

Joe got 145 on a big bore kitted Standard. No wind shield and bags.

Had my Interstate to 115 and climbing before I backed out.

Just bought and did not really trust it then.

A gold wing is top end stymied at 118 mph.

Rune is less that that , if you can believe it, that springer front end is probably the reason.

My Electra Glide Harley will cruise at 100 mph but never pushed it past that.

Stage 1 on it, Mufflers- Python,,,,,,, Headers - Vance Hines True Duals,,,,,,, Power Tuner Vance and Hines Fuel Pack.

It's been tuned to about 80 Horse Power.

With head work and cams easily could put out 100 HP.

So who really cares which one is faster , always somebody wiht more money will beat you .

My motto is run what you brung and enjoy the ride as you bring it.

Twisties are anohter matter, skill is invlolved in that and how crazy you are.

Only one person has out crazied me on that area on a cruiser style bike.

Happy to have survived that ride.

Big Al

No it was'nt Gordon either. Here he is on a fishing pier.

[Stanley Steamer]

I've had my I/S up to 124Mph on the GPS....on a long, downhill straightaway......I had just passed some Hardly's and got into a high speed wobble at that speed.....thankfully I got out of it...and kept motoring on.....

I think I saw some #'s somewhere that said the Valk I/S's 1/4mile time was around 100mph in 12.1 seconds?.....0-60mph in something like 4.1 or 4.6 secs?......I think the Standards had just a little better times.....maybe due to being lighter?.....

[stormrider]

Last summer I ran across I guy on a HD Nightrain and at every light he wanted to race me. Now I'm on my Rat Rod Valk and I blew him away at three stoplights before he went on his merry way.
I went on to our Monday Bike Night (in Plymouth MI) and parked and I went about socializing with my biker buds. Not long after that same dude on the Nightrain pulls onto our street and parks by a local bar, walks over and proceeds to bitch at me for cheating!
l couldn't understand his ranting until he accused me of hiding a nitrous bottle on my Valk. I said "look all you want, there's no nitrous on my bike". He did get on his knees in hopes to find a bottle. He claimed that no one had ever beat him,....ever. He claimed to have a "Stage Three" kit on his bike and even sportbike riders won't race him.
All I could do was chuckle, as did most of us around this idiot. He was certainly pissed and left in a hurry, gunning his pipes and reving the crap out of his motor.

  That's funny. He would've'd had a hard time keeping my son Chris' Kawa in sight. I've heard tell it would do 187 mph. about 95 in first gear. And it was a 600. He did outrun anyone that tried him. Thank God he blew the motor.  Oh well, as for the nighttrain, some people think they got more than what they got.

[big turkey]

Comparing Harley's and Honda Valkyries are like comparing apples and oranges.

Harley's are for the High Priced Crowd who want a reputation.

Honda Valkyries are for the folks who just like to ride and enjoy life and they are cheaper.

Easier to ride and more reliable in some ways and not it others.

Ride on folks and enjoy your toys like I do.

Harley and Honda and Kawaski Big AL

Cause I can is why I ride all these different bikes. and it makes me happy.

Big Al

[big turkey]

But to compare a Harley to a  Valkyrie is a little weird.

Is it because some people want a harley but won't fork the dough over.

Or is it to just down grade and say the Harley is no good,

Just don't get why people do that continulally on here.

I ride both and like both of them.

The Valkyrie folks seem much nicer than the Chip on my shoulder Harley guys.

Count your blessings you ride valks instead of harleys, the people on here are much better group of people.

That's why I keep coming back.
So the hell with the Harly rant ,don't give them the satisfaction of even comparing the two.

Ignore them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Big Al

[Dogg]

i guess against a stock valk with that 6 degree wheel couldnt harldy stand a chance on a roll on from 60mph.  The 6 degree wheel is a joke in my book but, thats just my opinion, I opened the slots on my stock one a bit. pre blower and pre- build, she would go 155 and still have throttle. now, I got a t-shirt that states clearly..."I dont care how big your V-twin is, Im still faster". and it is true. I have invested in my motor what those knuckleheads have in their sreamin chickens and dollar for dollar, My flat six wouuld eat them up and spit them out the tailpipe before I ever hit 100 mph. which takes 4 seconds for me.

  Lose the 6 degree wheel, put the stock back in and do it again. you will have better repsonse from her.

[big turkey]

Ok you big boys wiht your fast toys I am buyin,a ZX-14 with the 186mph limiter removed.

Then what you gonna do.

Strap a jet to your arse and try to keep up.

Crazy is in the eye of the beholder.

It never ends or ever satisfies.

BigAl

[Dogg]

al, ill still take ya up to 100... 

[fstsix]

Hey AL!!! it's a Privilege to have you here !!!!! remember we are talking about The CVO version not the standard package, in 2001 they had 58 HP, sorry the Valk was listed @ $13500  and the Heritage Softtail was $14500 I did say i could have bought whatever i wanted it was not the money but the engineering that was superior of the Boxer motor that swayed most of us to purchase the Valk plus made in USA  and BTW in 2001 you had to wait on the list for 6 months for a Hardley when i was in the market. and 58 HP back then was not gonna get my BIG A$$ on the hwy the way i like !!! and we are talking cruiser category Not sport bike.

[big turkey]

Ok lets try a ZX 10, it will do 95 in first gear.

Teh shifting alone will eat up your Valks advantage.

Its all relative.
Drag bikes do a 100 in 1.2 seconds.

No matter what you got it will have to bow out at some point.

But I bet your bike is a blast to ride though Dogg.

Big Al

[Dogg]

It has its moments al... 

[judd]

Lose the 6 degree wheel, put the stock back in and do it again. you will have better repsonse from her.

Thanx Dogg................I may just have to try that.  Nice ride by the way, that bike of yours is Killer !!!   

[Warlock]

Ok lets try a ZX 10, it will do 95 in first gear.

Teh shifting alone will eat up your Valks advantage.

Its all relative.
Drag bikes do a 100 in 1.2 seconds.

No matter what you got it will have to bow out at some point.

But I bet your bike is a blast to ride though Dogg.

Big Al

Ya'll be ready. I made a rsvp at a Holiday Select next week. Then I can figure what I need to break the sound barrier. And still look cool.
David

[bigdog99]

when i read the manual and it said top speed 117 i couldnt believe it. then i tried and 117 was all she had.   anyone know how to eliminate the rev limiter?

[roboto65]

Yeah but heres the fun part Honda put out a 750 that will JUST beat the Valk in the quarter mile and it's a cruiser anybody yep the 94 to 04 Magna. Valk has WAY more torque though !!!