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« on: May 11, 2010, 04:43:55 PM »

Ok let me put this on for thought. why not use rear interstate pads on the front all OEM rotors have wear on them i use rear pads on my 1997 valkyrie  seems to fit ok all the engineers do the math it will work allot cheaper and will last allot longer why interstate because there cheaper

think about it i bet others besides me are using the rear pads for the front
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Wildman
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2010, 05:02:59 PM »

Very interesting.
They fit?
aren't they quite a bit thicker.
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2010, 06:02:06 PM »

Ok let me put this on for thought. why not use rear interstate pads on the front all OEM rotors have wear on them i use rear pads on my 1997 valkyrie  seems to fit ok all the engineers do the math it will work allot cheaper and will last allot longer why interstate because there cheaper

think about it i bet others besides me are using the rear pads for the front

Sure, just after my front oem come in the mail...
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Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2010, 06:31:03 PM »

I've used them on the front before no problems. cooldude
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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2010, 07:26:57 PM »

Hey I like the way you think!
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2010, 06:40:11 AM »

I have been reading this board for a decade and I have never heard this before! I just put new brakes on the front but I will definitely try them next time. Does anyone have any idea why the Interstate rear pads are less than Standard/Tourer rears and fronts?
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2010, 07:42:07 AM »

from my other post http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,13708.0.html

Vesrah makes most OEM pads. The stock valkyrie pads are HH pads as are the Vesrah replacements.
vesrah shows them the same size backing plate, just thicknesses are different. Ferodo shows the same also. 8.2 mm is stock thk front,  9.6 mm is the max that will fit from what I have been told, in fact this thk is all that ferodo imports into USA. rear is 10.3 mm, don't know if they will squeeze in or not. I just ordered the vesrah 9.6mm for my bike from denniskirk, haven't instl them yet. they are HH pads and highly rated as are ferodo.

http://catalog.vesrah.co.jp/index_street_f.html     click on brakes, then search

http://www.ferodoracing.com/catalogue/search.php?search=motorcycle_vehicle&cat=brake_pads

for some bikes the rear pads have a different friction coefficient than the front pads so the rear will not lock up as easily. This means rear pads on the front will provide reduced braking and increase stopping distances. If the material of the rear pads are different than the front this could account for the reduced cost. more research is required on this to be safe when panic stopping a 700-1000 lb bike.

search function is your friend.
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2010, 08:28:31 AM »

I guess it makes some sense that the rear pads would have a different composition, and it makes sense that the thicker rear brakes may fit the front once the disk wears down some, but it sure seems odd that the Interstate rears are so much cheaper than the Standard rears ($22.95 vs. $34.95 at HDL).
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2010, 09:31:24 AM »

I guess it makes some sense that the rear pads would have a different composition, and it makes sense that the thicker rear brakes may fit the front once the disk wears down some, but it sure seems odd that the Interstate rears are so much cheaper than the Standard rears ($22.95 vs. $34.95 at HDL).

from vesrah site

Front vs Rear Pads : They are made differently for maximum efficiency and safty of bike riding : soft braking for front and hard braking for rear application.

Sintered Metal Pads are made of copper, tin, graphite and other metallic elements : completely different products from those of metal powder mixed into organic pads. Vesrah sintered Metal Pads are designed to be compatible with stainless steel rotos :

Vesrah Sintered Metal pad are manufactured for all-weather applications and high temperature
All-Weather Driving : Since metal-metal friction yields high heat and maintain higher temperature without fading than organic pads, water on rotor surface will evaporate almost instantly. Quick Recovery of Braking Power due to Wet conditions.

Stability : At high temperatures, No softening and No vaporizing like organic marerials. Sintered metal maintains same friction coefficients (0.49}0.04) all through the application temperatures


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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2010, 11:45:35 AM »

OK
The stock 1800 goldwing front rotors [which will bolt on to the Valk] are thinner than the stock Valk rotor.
Will the thicker rear I.S. pads make up for the difference?
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2010, 01:48:13 PM »

from my other post http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,13708.0.html

Vesrah makes most OEM pads. The stock valkyrie pads are HH pads as are the Vesrah replacements.
vesrah shows them the same size backing plate, just thicknesses are different. Ferodo shows the same also. 8.2 mm is stock thk front,  9.6 mm is the max that will fit from what I have been told, in fact this thk is all that ferodo imports into USA. rear is 10.3 mm, don't know if they will squeeze in or not. I just ordered the vesrah 9.6mm for my bike from denniskirk, haven't instl them yet. they are HH pads and highly rated as are ferodo.

http://catalog.vesrah.co.jp/index_street_f.html     click on brakes, then search

http://www.ferodoracing.com/catalogue/search.php?search=motorcycle_vehicle&cat=brake_pads

for some bikes the rear pads have a different friction coefficient than the front pads so the rear will not lock up as easily. This means rear pads on the front will provide reduced braking and increase stopping distances. If the material of the rear pads are different than the front this could account for the reduced cost. more research is required on this to be safe when panic stopping a 700-1000 lb bike.

search function is your friend.


If this is the case. Then someone mounting OEM rear pads to the fronts is going to reduce a stock configuration on our Valkyries that are still rated in the top 10 best for 60 - 0 stopping ability. That braking score is among all bikes past & present and includes Sport Bikes. I believe the Valk ranked 5th or 6th if I recall.

Me, I prefer stopping my forward progress from 60 mph in [the tested] 106' instead of 180' or more, if need be. Just Saying. I'll stick with the design engineers on this one even though I run Darkside.
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2010, 02:17:50 PM »

If the rear break pads has less stopping power than the front pads and you are running a ct on back why not run front pads on back for better stopping power?

And Hi been a lurker for a couple of years this is my first post.
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2010, 02:31:10 PM »

If the rear break pads has less stopping power than the front pads and you are running a ct on back why not run front pads on back for better stopping power?

And Hi been a lurker for a couple of years this is my first post.

Welcome.
Yeah, I was thinking that too. But then I thought what if I or others would revert bake to an MC tire at any point. I think there would be greater risk of locking up the rear that way. But nothing one couldn't re-acclimate to I guess.
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