R J
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« on: May 12, 2010, 12:54:33 PM » |
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Let's say I break into your house. . .
A lady wrote the best letter in the Editorials in ages!!! It explains things better than all the baloney you hear on TV.
Her point:
Recently, large demonstrations have taken place across the country, protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration.
Certain people are angry that the U.S. might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely.
Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests. Let's say I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave.
But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors. I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house).
According to the protesters:
You are Required to let me stay in your house. You are Required to add me to your family's insurance plan. You are Required to Educate my kids. You are Required to Provide other benefits to me & to my family (my husband will do all of your yard work because he is also hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part).
If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my RIGHT to be there. It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm a hard-working and honest, person, except for well, you know, I did break into your house. And oh yeah, I get a free education, where you have to pay your own way through college.(TEEHEE) And what a deal it is for me!!!
I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of cold,
uncaring, selfish, prejudiced, and bigoted behavior.
Oh yeah, I DEMAND that you learn MY LANGUAGE!!! So you can communicate with me. And don't forget to make sure your forms are in MY language - I need to understand them...
Why can't people see how ridiculous this is?! Only in America ! If you agree, pass it on ( in English ). Share it if you see the value of it.
If not blow it off......... Along with your future Social Security funds, and a lot of other things!
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2010, 01:12:01 PM » |
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I think we are doing that now with IRAN and the only have 3 americans... So if I follow this ladies thinking, if at some point I feel threatened, I could shoot the illegal? Hmmm....now i really like the way she thinks. 
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2010, 01:25:12 PM » |
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no just drive them to Arizona and piss off a cop so he asks for everyones ID!
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2010, 01:27:05 PM » |
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AMEN, Brother!
If people would take the time to actually READ the law instead of listening to the talking heads on TV, there would be considerably less opposition. As a matter of fact I believe it was even presented in Spanish; however, from the responses of the loud minority, it is evident reading is not a priority for them. The majority of us in Arizona do support the law. There seems to be a large amount of misundertanding around what is and is not acceptable behavior for a police officer, and that missunderstanding is NOT on the side of the police officers themselves. What part of "ILLEGAL" do the protestors not understand? If I do something that causes a cop to focus attention on me, I expect to have to show my ID. And I do have to have a valid form of identification - it's the law. If I were here illegally, I guess I would protest... Legal Immigration founded this country. The last line of Emma Lazarus' famous poem is "I lift my lamp beside the golden DOOR." It does not say "Climb my walls and break into my house and I'll take care of you."
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2010, 01:34:04 PM » |
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how do we get the damn politicians to see things logically? Is it even possible? An oxymoron, maybe?
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2010, 01:41:58 PM » |
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how do we get the damn politicians to see things logically? Is it even possible? An oxymoron, maybe?
It's impossible,.....especially whe the top politician, the president, is spreading untruths about this law. He is perpetuating the "let me see your papers" bullcrap. And what about Arnold's speech saying he was supposed to speak in AZ but was afraid he get deported to Austria. A55holes!
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2010, 01:50:13 PM » |
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how do we get the damn politicians to see things logically? Is it even possible? An oxymoron, maybe?
It's impossible,.....especially whe the top politician, the president, is spreading untruths about this law. He is perpetuating the "let me see your papers" bullcrap. And what about Arnold's speech saying he was supposed to speak in AZ but was afraid he get deported to Austria. A55holes!arnolds only pissed 'cause he's got a bunch of illegal aliens coming over his eastern border (the one that borders arizona!)
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2010, 04:48:22 PM » |
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Other countries are getting tried too...
Australia Stands Up - Second Time he has done this
He's done it again.. He sure isn't backing down on his hard line stance and one has to appreciate his belief in the rights of his native countrymen.
A breath of fresh air to see someone lead. I wish some leaders would step up in Canada & USA .
Australian Prime Minister does it again!!
This man should be appointed King of the World.. Truer words have never been spoken.
It took a lot of courage for this man to speak what he had to say for the world to hear. The retribution could be phenomenal, but at least he was willing to take a stand on his and Australia 's beliefs.
Whole world needs a leader like this!
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd - Australia
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..
Separately, Rudd angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:
'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '
'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'
'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'
'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'
'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'
'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'
'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'
Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves in Canada & USA , WE will find the courage to start speaking and voicing the same truths.
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2010, 10:14:06 AM » |
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how do we get the damn politicians to see things logically? Is it even possible? An oxymoron, maybe?
"Logic" and "politician" (and there derivatives) do not belong together in the same sentence. 
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2010, 07:45:47 PM » |
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Other countries are getting tried too...
Australia Stands Up - Second Time he has done this
Australia is a beautiful place, and Rudd is an interesting individual, but I wouldn't like to live there. I feel we have some unreasonably restrictive gun control laws in the US, I am not impressed with the Australian Labor Party's stand on that particular issue. Not Hijacking, just pointing out that the grass on the other side may be greener, but all that fertilizer is likely to stink.
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2010, 08:00:00 PM » |
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While I would be overjoyed to find out that Rudd actually said this, it just isn't entirely true. First and foremost, Rudd never said any of this. Former PM Howard is the one who originally spoke out about Muslim immigrants. http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/australia.aspThe message is spot on, but it was not delivered in the manner that it is here. Not trying to piss anyone off, I'm just a fact checker and hate when erroneous information is spread. (I call my dad out all the time for spreading half-truths and false-truths via email). It does, however, appear that most of the people that are for boycotting AZ, have not even read the law. It's only 11 pages long, is it too much to ask people to read and think, rather than believe whatever they hear?
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