machnic wanted for a good tune up in western pa

[ogar]

just bought 99 interstate that needs some help. sat for a couple years and runs a little slugish.

[ptgb]

Welcome aboard  

Where are you in Western PA? We have a decent sized group here in NE Ohio and I think there is going to be a "Tech Session" coming up in Akron, OH in a few weeks. A Tech Session is when we all get together and do basic maintenance tasks on our Valks. I don't have too much expertise, can do the minor stuff alone, more with more expert help; I am in Youngstown, Ohio.
 
Usually for "sluggish" running, the first step would be get yourself a bottle of Seafoam or Techron fuel system cleaner and put a whole can in the tank. Take the bike for a short ride to get these cleaners in the carbs. Let it set overnight and then ride it for a pretty decent amount of time. I would ride try to stay in the RPM range where the motor "breaks up" (stumbles) the most, if you can.

[98valk]

see my posts on seafoam, don't use it, can cause hydro-loc.
much better products and at lower cost out there, regain, techno, amsoil, redline.

[PAVALKER]

see my posts on seafoam, don't use it, can cause hydro-loc.
much better products and at lower cost out there, regain, techno, amsoil, redline.

What in Seafoam causes hydro-loc??   How about posting a link to your posts instead of telling him or anyone to "search" for it.    Back up your claim...... please.

As stated above, where in Western PA are you?  If in the Pittsburgh area, PM me and we can discuss your issues.  If you are looking for a Prof Honda Mechanic in Western PA.... I know one I would recommend, that now works at Tom Clark Motorsports on RT51.... the Mech's name is Joe Glew.

[98valk]

see my posts on seafoam, don't use it, can cause hydro-loc.
much better products and at lower cost out there, regain, techno, amsoil, redline.

What in Seafoam causes hydro-loc??   How about posting a link to your posts instead of telling him or anyone to "search" for it.    Back up your claim...... please.

2 seconds to do a quick search "ca exhaustcoatings seafoam" 
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I will not use seafoam for that purpose, only sta-bil. 
Last line from another site indicates seafoam could be cause of HYDRO-LOCK. :'(

They say its 100% petroleum.
http://www.seafoamsales.com/gas-engines/gasoline-engines/e-85-fuels/view.html

The MSDS says otherwise
http://www.seafoamsales.com/consumer-information/trans-tune/msds-trans-tune/view-2.html

IPA 67-63-0 is Isopropyl alcohol   Ethanol gas is alcohol
http://www.chemblink.com/products/67-63-0.htm

very expensive for this purpose, seafoam is only 10-20%. Iso-heat, sta-bil are much more cost effective IMO.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-isopropyl-alcohol.htm
Isopropyl alcohol is also a component of additives intended to prevent or treat water accumulation in fuel lines, such as “dry gas.” In fact, it helps to reduce the risk of water freezing in fuel lines. It does this by making the water soluble, which would otherwise separate from the gasoline and turn to ice during cold weather.

Seafoam Ingredients
CAS # Wt.%
Pale Oil 64742-54-7 40.00 - 60.00% N/Av >15000 mg/kg >5000 mg/kg
Naphtha 64742-49-0 25.00 - 35.00% N/Av >5000 mg/kg N/Av
IPA 67-63-0 10.00 - 20.00% 17000ppm 4720mg/kg 12890mg/kg


http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum/203184-seafoam-contains-10-20-isopropyl-alcohol-ipa.html

Seafoam will absorb small amounts of water. What it will not fix is E10 that has phase separated.
PALE OILS are light coloured, non-staining naphthenic oils refined from specially selected wax-free crude through the use of severe hydrogenation. This process produces oils of excellent initial colour and colour stability while maintaining their compatibility with most synthetic elastomers. With a flash point of 330 degreee F or more. E10 flash point is around -40 degrees F. Diesel is around 143 degrees F by the way. Have you ever wondered why Seafoam will stall your gasoilne engine unless you rev the piss out of it.
Well now you know; the stuff does not want to go BOOM.

Naphtha flash point is a little lower then gasoline. If want to buy Naphtha go buy some Coleman Stove Fuel.
Seafoam has a flash point of 55 degrees F and gasoline is -40 degrees F. That is why when you pour it in a carb the engine wants to die.
Bottom line is the stuff seems to work in the old 2 cycle outboards I have tried. Now filling the racor with straight seafoam seems like you are asking for trouble. The stuff does not want to burn like gasoline and by filling the racor that is exactly you are trying to do.

Anybody hydrolocked a motor trying this?  :'(

acetone fixes phase seperation.

[PAVALKER]

The sky is falling.  The sky is falling......    sheesh.  I'm gonna raise the BS flag on you.  The links you provided didn't prove Hydro-Loc.  You still didn't provide any documentation or history that indicated or proved that Seafoam causes Hydro-loc?????  Did it cause Hydro-loc for you (or did you suspect that it caused it)?  If so, what proof do you have that it was Seafoam?

All I can tell you is that from my personal experience (and that of many others) over the years, Stabil has gummed up and failed me (and others).  Seafoam has worked well, and as advertised.  I use it in the fall when putting the bike up or reduced winter operations and again in the Spring.  Half a can per tank (in each bike) each time.  Never had ANY problems with Seafoam.  I will never use Stabil again however. 

I have also used Techron Injector Cleaner (mainly on the VTX), and .... hold your ears/eyes....  Marvel Mystery Oil with good results.
 

[98valk]

The sky is falling.  The sky is falling......    sheesh.  I'm gonna raise the BS flag on you.  The links you provided didn't prove Hydro-Loc.  You still didn't provide any documentation or history that indicated or proved that Seafoam causes Hydro-loc?????  Did it cause Hydro-loc for you (or did you suspect that it caused it)?  If so, what proof do you have that it was Seafoam?

All I can tell you is that from my personal experience (and that of many others) over the years, Stabil has gummed up and failed me (and others).  Seafoam has worked well, and as advertised.  I use it in the fall when putting the bike up or reduced winter operations and again in the Spring.  Half a can per tank (in each bike) each time.  Never had ANY problems with Seafoam.  I will never use Stabil again however. 

I have also used Techron Injector Cleaner (mainly on the VTX), and .... hold your ears/eyes....  Marvel Mystery Oil with good results.

the documentation is that there are components of seafoam that have low flash points, meaning they don't want to burn. just like raw fuel or water.
I don't think I ever said that it does. I am only bringing up the facts that it could when the planets align.     I think I always said could, might and the link the person asked the question  "has anyone hydro-loc their engine? how many people on this board have hydro-loc their engines? nobody has proved without a doubt what it is for sure. I posted many times that the early GL1500 had a problem and I have posted honda's fix and how it relates to our bikes.
nobody ever comments, I guess they think its bs also.
do u agree that putting components into your gas that don't want to burn and it accumulates in the tank from phase seperation and then that unburnable mixture gets into a cylinder, could that cause hydro-loc?

[fstsix]

Hummmmm......Nonburnable mixture......would mean motor will not run.....so if motor will not run, it has No accelerator pump...no vacuum... to pull fuel into cylinders ? and i have seen post in the last 10 years here that have always claimed that the rear left side cylinder was full....and broke their starter  Bendix....but remember only one cylinder was full why would unburned fuel not be in all 6 ? just trying to justify your hydro -lock from additives, i do understand separation.  i think the real debate is Shut off diaphragm or stuck float is filling the left cylinder?

[ptgb]

... just wanted to know if he was nearby  ???
 
Let's not scare him off...


As far as the Seafoam debate this has turned into... I have used it for three years, no ill effects whatsoever.