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ValkyrieAvenged
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« on: June 21, 2010, 05:55:24 AM »

I have a 2000 Valkyrie Interstate... well i found from reading posts on here why i chewed my stock rotors up at 26,000 miles...the aftermarket brake pads...so now i have another problem...i had a set of EBC prolite front rotors installed with ebc pads..because they were half the cost of OEM...but still 500 bucks!..well when i brake hard or slow to a stop..there is this awful loud "clicking" noise coming from the rotors.. it appears that the rotors were designed with these long oval slots in them..the pads are actually getting "caught" in the rotors... If i switch to OEM pads do you think this will help..or do i have to eat the cost of a 1,000 dollar set of rotors Cry
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2010, 05:58:51 AM »

make sure the axel is in all the way and the noise is not the rotor bolts hitting the left caliper
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2010, 03:37:25 PM »

no such luck.. i took it up today to a different honda shop and they checked everything out and said it had to be the rotors
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2010, 03:51:55 PM »

If you have the correct rotor for your year and model of bike, EBC rotors with EBC pads, and they are installed correctly there will be a very very slight ticking noise from the groves in the rotor on stopping.

If it is a severe racket, then take it apart and start over, you missed something.

I've been running EBC rotors on my bike, (97 Tourer) for a hair over 120,000 with no problems....

You should not run EBC rotors with OEM pads,
you should not run OEM rotors with EBC pads.

Match the rotors and the pads to the same manufacturer for best results..
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2010, 06:09:43 PM »

Is it possible the rotors are made to be left/right? Maybe they are mounted backwards. That could cause the noise you are hearing. No experience or real knowledge involved, just a thought cooldude
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2010, 09:03:01 PM »

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Is it possible the rotors are made to be left/right? Maybe they are mounted backwards. That could cause the noise you are hearing. No experience or real knowledge involved, just a thought  cooldude

The EBC rotors you're referring to can be use on either side. 

RJ is right, there will be a "slight ticking" but nothing loud.  I've been running mine for over 20K and believe them to be a great replacement for the OEMs.
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2010, 05:46:04 PM »

GL1800 rotors, stock Honda Valkyrie pads, new Valkyrie rotor-to-wheel bolts, all from HDL for around $400.
Looks good, stops good, sounds good.... It's all good. cooldude

Ready to go another 100K.
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2010, 04:25:09 AM »

I don't see the GL1800 rotors on HDL, just pads up the whazoo :-(
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2010, 11:59:12 AM »

I don't see the GL1800 rotors on HDL, just pads up the whazoo :-(

GL1800 'Wing rotors:
45120-MCA-003 RH rotor  $150.33
45220-MCA-003 LH rotor  $150.33
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90105-KN5-000  {12 required} $2.50 each
Valkyrie pads {OE Honda}:
06455-MV4-405 {2 required} $36.57 each

All stock Honda replacement parts from the HDL online fiche as of today.
The GL1800 rotors have gone up a few bucks since I got mine a month or two ago.   coolsmiley
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2010, 01:42:54 PM »

Thank you sir! For future reference, mine are still fine at 65K  cooldude
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2010, 02:34:57 PM »

Is it just the single loud clunk, one time per stop?  It could just be the floating calipers drifting.  Either that's normal, or I've been deceived, and have a similar problem.
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2010, 09:35:59 AM »

Well right now i am waiting on the bike shop to talk to their supplier...and see if i can get another set of rotors...i am never going to this shop again they don"t seem like they are in my "corner" on this..i even promised to pay the labor to get them switched...its not a one time loud "clunk" but not just slight "ticking" either...if all else fails the idea i had and another guy had was to  use a dremel and grind the inside of the long grooves to take the edge off
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2010, 11:24:26 AM »

its not a one time loud "clunk" but not just slight "ticking" either...

Mine did exactly that when atire guy put the wheel back on and the axle was about a 1/6" from being all the way in.....result, rotor bolts click on the body of the caliper.......just sayin  Cheesy
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2010, 12:01:58 PM »

Specified clearance between the rotor and the caliper mount/body is only 0.030 inches.  It doesn't take much being out of whack for the rotor rivets to drag.

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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2010, 12:09:36 PM »


All stock Honda replacement parts from the HDL online fiche as of today.
The GL1800 rotors have gone up a few bucks since I got mine a month or two ago.   coolsmiley

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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2010, 08:15:57 AM »

I had a strange clicking up front recently that I couldn't find. I finally found that one of the quarter sized fasteners that hold the rotor to the wheel was loose. (I don't know what these are called but there are lots of them all around the base of the rotor). I simply felt all of them and found one was loose. It seemed to me that a washer of sorts under the fastener was causing the problem. I stuck a thin pointed bamboo skewer in between the fastener and the rotor and it went "pop!" back into tight mode...problem solved.

Sorry I don't know the right tech terms for what I fixed or what I did to fix it. But check all those quarter sized fasteners around the rotor and make sure none are loose...

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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2010, 11:46:39 AM »

Specified clearance between the rotor and the caliper mount/body is only 0.030 inches.  It doesn't take much being out of whack for the rotor rivets to drag.



With the view that they are floating calipers I would say that measurements such as that are non-starters.

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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2010, 04:03:18 PM »

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With the view that they are floating calipers I would say that measurements such as that are non-starters.

Sure they float but the MOUNT that nholds the Floating caliper DOES NOT!!!! uglystupid2
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What does the data say?

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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2010, 05:47:34 PM »

Specified clearance between the rotor and the caliper mount/body is only 0.030 inches.  It doesn't take much being out of whack for the rotor rivets to drag.



With the view that they are floating calipers I would say that measurements such as that are non-starters.

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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2010, 06:49:21 PM »

Well right now i am waiting on the bike shop to talk to their supplier...and see if i can get another set of rotors...i am never going to this shop again they don"t seem like they are in my "corner" on this..i even promised to pay the labor to get them switched...its not a one time loud "clunk" but not just slight "ticking" either...if all else fails the idea i had and another guy had was to  use a dremel and grind the inside of the long grooves to take the edge off



Did you check your rotors for wear marks?  Seems like if your problem was related to lets say misalignment, or a problem with pads not seating in the mount correctly,  and or caliper that was slightly touching they'd show some type of issue on one side or the other. 
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