Cliff
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« on: June 25, 2010, 04:23:14 AM » |
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Bought the I/S about 2 years ago and at 38,000 miles (12,000 put on by me) I decided it was time to pop the tank off and look at the air filter (had a new filter ready, this is first time taking fuel tank off for me) and while in there why not install the fuel filter, as well as the fuel line quick disconnect kit from redeye. All was going well following the instructions, I almost ready to put the tank on when my wife gets home and says "lets go for a ride when you are done". Any excuse to ride quickly gets my attention! So I finish up, probably a little quicker than I would have  . Every thing went well... until on turned on the ignition... ooops.. in my haste to ride I had forgotten to reconnect the fuel level sensor plug. Deciding that the lack of fuel level indication was not a big deal and would correct it after the ride, did a quick double check of everything else before riding and off we went. Later, in the dark driveway using drop light, the tank came off easily enough and the fuel level sensor plug reconnected easily enough. But this time getting the fuel line quick disconnect reconnected was being uncooperative to say the least. After creating a puddle of sweat I during which the spring and insert form the female side of the insert pop out and "disappeared" (probably in the crevice next to the alternator) so next time it won't pop apart on it own. Finally got it reconnected and start it up to check for leaks,,,,,, the fuel line disconnect is leaking! so shut it down, disconnected the quick disconnect and remove the tank to discover the "O" ring on the male was trashed during the struggle to get it to line up to reconnect. Fortunately the disconnect kit came with a courtesy replacement "O" ring ( I also bought two more) replaced the "O" ring and it went back to together this time with no trouble at all and NO leaks. Ordering a new disconnect to replace the the spring assy the fell out of this one. Just a couple more maintenance items to do before hitting the road to Michigan!!! EDIT: Yes I did reconnect the PITA vent tube at the rear of the tank . 
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« Last Edit: June 25, 2010, 04:31:14 AM by Cliff »
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2010, 06:15:40 AM » |
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Hey Cliff, don't feel too bad. I went through some similar pains when installing a pingle and newmark valve. I had several bugs including being stranded a few miles from home twice. Was worth it in the end though as the system is more reliable than stock system ever was. It's all part of the fun, right?
Have a good trip....
-Ken
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nors
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2010, 12:04:26 PM » |
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Saw a Valk Fuel Line Disconnect on EBAY and was wondering what the advantage of it was? It's supposed to be easy to put on..?
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Cliff
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2010, 05:52:37 AM » |
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Saw a Valk Fuel Line Disconnect on EBAY and was wondering what the advantage of it was? It's supposed to be easy to put on..?
With the quick disconnect you don't need to pry off the hardened fuel line from the petcok nipple when it is time to remove the tank for service etc. just press the metal push "button" on the disconnect. Install of the disconnect is relatively easy.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2010, 08:27:10 AM » |
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The stock OEM fuel line on the Valkyrie is a tad too large for the barb on the Pingel so it will slide off very easily with very little prodding.
A small diameter screw clamp is necessary to hold the hose securely and avoid leaking.
Since the location of the Pingel to the underside of the gas tank there is easy access with a screw driver and a few turns will allow the hose to slip right off.
The employment of the "quick disconnect" is adding more unnecessary, problem prone junk, to the bike.
And I'll never understand why a "quick disconnect" is needed for removal of an item that maybe annually will be removed.
Jeesh!
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nors
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2010, 08:50:00 AM » |
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So I can save some big bucks by buying a small hose clamp. Thanks About what size hose clamp do I need, how large in diameter is the stock hose about? Great solution to the problem!!
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2010, 09:29:55 AM » |
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So I can save some big bucks by buying a small hose clamp. Thanks About what size hose clamp do I need, how large in diameter is the stock hose about? Great solution to the problem!!
I don't know the diameter of the hose but the clamp I used is the narrow band clamp, about 5/16" wide and opens up to maybe 5/8" to 3/4" diameter. Here's a link: http://www.idealclamps.com/catalog/clamps/catalog.php?sid=en&ID=17Most likely a size 4 or 5. It's not stamped on the clamp. Find them in any auto parts store. ***
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2010, 09:43:12 AM » |
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But this time getting the fuel line quick disconnect reconnected was being uncooperative to say the least. After creating a puddle of sweat I during which the spring and insert form the female side of the insert pop out and "disappeared" (probably in the crevice next to the alternator) so next time it won't pop apart on it own. Finally got it reconnected and start it up to check for leaks,,,,,, the fuel line disconnect is leaking! so shut it down, disconnected the quick disconnect and remove the tank to discover the "O" ring on the male was trashed during the struggle to get it to line up to reconnect. Fortunately the disconnect kit came with a courtesy replacement "O" ring ( I also bought two more) replaced the "O" ring and it went back to together this time with no trouble at all and NO leaks. Ordering a new disconnect to replace the the spring assy the fell out of this one. Just a couple more maintenance items to do before hitting the road to Michigan!!! I like Redeye and have used a good bit of their stuff. My quick disconnect fell apart though just like yours. the o-ring was trashed also. Redeye instantly sent me a new one at no charge. After thinking this over I decided to eliminate the quick disconnect and haven't regretted it. My Pingle makes getting at the fuel line easier than the stock petcock and I don't want to have a repeat experience with that quick disconnect on the side of the road someday.
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 09:55:49 AM » |
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Ricky-D, Is your fuel valve a Stock valve or a Pingel valve.
Which Pingel do I need to order if a Pingel will help in the disconnect/connect?
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Cliff
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2010, 06:59:23 PM » |
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Saw a Valk Fuel Line Disconnect on EBAY and was wondering what the advantage of it was? It's supposed to be easy to put on..?
Well I am one to always share my opinion be it good or bad,,, after a couple of reserve/main fuel cycles I wasnt too happy with the setup of the fuel line loop (way too long to clear air bubbles in the fuel line after need to change to reserve, I mounted the quick disconnect with the loop up, sooooo I orederd a new one to replace the broken one on my install) when attempting to disconnect the quick disconnect i decided it ain't so friggin quick!!! Modified back to no quick disconnect and left the ionline filter in place!!!! Just my HO. And thank you to whomever shared the tidbit about using big zip ties to aid in mounting tires onto rims!!!!!!!!!! Changed my front tire today and did the remount with nothing but zip ties and bare hands,, INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Both beads over the rim bare handed!!!!!!! too sweet!!! one more Maint item before the ride to Inzane.........
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1997 Std Valkyrie and 2001 red/blk I/S w/sidecar
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2010, 08:07:42 PM » |
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I had to remove the quick disconnect on mine. If I ran at full or near full throttle for a long time, I started running out of fuel. Removed the quick disconnect, and the problem went away.
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2010, 08:12:18 PM » |
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I have the highest regard for Redeye's products and commitment to his customers, but I, too, have had problems with my quick disconnect. I'm on my second O-ring and the innards of the female portion pop out every time I struggle to take it apart. I've come to the opinion that the Honda OEM set-up is just as fast as Redeyes', and less trouble prone. I use a little dielectric grease on the nipple when I put it together- that kind of grease is good for keeping the rubber pliable and not drying out, and also helps it slip off easier next disassembly.
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2010, 05:13:44 PM » |
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Great - I just put one of these on this morning.......... Hope it does not cause me problems. Should have just stuck with the once every couple of years of knuckle scraping with the OEM lines.
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