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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2010, 11:27:19 PM » |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theoriesNot that I can personally confirm or deny his citizenship status...... I pretty much assume that Bill and Hillary would have been all over this from the git go (don't you think?)..... or with all the people they (Bill and Hillary) have supposedly offed .....how could BO still be around? That's what makes me go hmmmmmm...... 
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2010, 05:37:16 AM » |
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2010, 06:50:14 AM » |
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Didya see the one about the two different Certifications of Nomination submitted by the DNC?
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2010, 06:53:50 AM » |
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Someone asked the other day, did he register for the draft. That makes me go hummmmm. Haven't researced myself so if someone knows, that would be interesting to find out for sure.
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2010, 06:56:09 AM » |
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Didya see the one about the Social Security Number being used by bho, starting with 042 (reserved for applications received from Connecticut - he has no known connection to CT, and the numbers immediately before and after went to applications from CT), was originally issued to a person born in 1890? http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=152773
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2010, 09:09:29 AM » |
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Obviously, since they did his birth announcements in the Hawaii newspapers, it is a HUGE conspiracy - most likely perpetrated by illegal aliens from another planet.
"They" decided way back then that, when that black/white baby, that would soon be orphaned, became president - which he would surely do - they would need the announcements as cover.
It doesn't take a tinfoil hat to figure this out, but it sure helps, doesn't it!
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2010, 11:05:43 AM » |
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Obviously, you know that neither a birth announcement in a newspaper nor a Certification of Live Birth are the same as a Birth Certificate. Shouldn't the fact that, instead of releasing his long-form Birth Certificate, he's spent nearly $2 million to conceal his records raise an eyebrow with even his most ardent supporters? Hawaii elections clerk: Obama not born here
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2010, 12:15:10 PM » |
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Ahh, I see by your link that you rely on "World Net Daily" for news...cool, no need for the tinfoil hat if you read that 
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2010, 12:41:49 PM » |
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Ahh, I see by your link that you rely on "World Net Daily" for news...cool, no need for the tinfoil hat if you read that  Yeah Scanner, your reference to a "tinfoil hat" I always find amusing. Since one size fits all, I assume you share yours. You and a few others always have something to say when one of us posts something contrary to your blessed one. Usually berating the person(s) post because it's so far off base....according to you and your sources that is. But it kinda goes both ways my friend, a lot of your "comebacks" are baseless at times, and your sources are often no more credible. Many of the questions raised here and elsewhere are worthy of investigation and I fail to see why you and others are so put off by it. Based on much of what I've read, the American public has been taken for a ride and I feel the U.S. Constitution is being tested. Trouble is, so far we haven't found anyone powerful enough to overcome the inside controling factors in D.C. As for these posts, I often won't respond to any of it, and when I post something such as this video....I just put it up there to see what the reaction is, and I usually get one....both pro and con. Have fun with your hat, it's rather becoming on you.....becoming old, that is.
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2010, 12:55:49 PM » |
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Interesting. I truly doubt he actually said what was on the tape-no close ups him talking. The other clips may/may not be real either. I am not a "birther", but I am a doubter. There is much on this topic we may never know. What he has done and his doing to this country is a disgrace to all of us. I learned here today that there were social security numbers in 1890-thought they came later.
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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2010, 01:03:42 PM » |
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Ahh, I see by your link that you rely on "World Net Daily" for news...cool, no need for the tinfoil hat if you read that  Alright Scanner!! if it's not Mainstream Gov TV......then i guess i have to come clean here where i get my News when the rest wont report, Untill they have too!! LOL!!! the only reason Gov News had to go to print is because a smut paper that could care less about anything OR Party Spilled the beans...Hummmm...National Enquirer Or MSLSD... http://bigjournalism.com/emiller/2010/06/23/national-enquirers-al-gore-sexual-assault-allegations-ignored-by-msm/ Read the responses must be Valkyrie owners 
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2010, 01:38:55 PM » |
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Maybe because it isn't news...and 5 years old...and already been investigated by police... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/23/AR2010062304891.htmlBut it is Enquirer material. And Mr. Schmidt. Last election there was one presidential candidate definitely not born in the USA ...McCain. Look it up.
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2010, 01:45:29 PM » |
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Dang man.......you should email Tipper....i sure hope she feels the same way you do 40 years of marriage....Maybe she is over reacting  just trying to help?
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2010, 01:59:14 PM » |
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And Mr. Schmidt. Last election there was one presidential candidate definitely not born in the USA ...McCain. Look it up.
Someone born on a foreign U.S. military base is considered a natural born citizen. I'm sure you know that, but I guess a red herring was in order.
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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2010, 02:02:40 PM » |
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True. And someone born in Hawaii is also a natural born citizen.
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2010, 02:11:27 PM » |
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True. And someone born in Hawaii is also a natural born citizen.
I don't think my post disputes that fact, does it? I was merely commenting on birth on a foreign U.S. military base. I have family members that fall into that category and they are full U.S. citizens.
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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2010, 02:36:53 PM » |
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True. And someone born in Hawaii is also a natural born citizen.
True, but when the man says "I was not born in Hawaii, Im from Kenya" and his wife calls Kenya "His home country" One starts to wonder............I say "president" Obama lets see the documents!
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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2010, 03:41:19 PM » |
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I dont care where he was born,and apparently those who are empowered to uphold the constitution of the USA are dont either. I would not trust him if he looked like Ron Regan and spoke like Mr.Rogers and was born right inside the damn white house !. I have seen enough to make my own opinion already no matter where he hatched! ! If..IF he were found to be ineligible to be POTUS for what ever reasons....Would you want Biden in office? He is next in line.Then ,if Biden happens to drown while bobbing for apples (in the toilet)  NANCY PELOSI would be the Prez.!  Pelosi scares the S#!t outta me! We have to take our country back and to do it we have to change "politics as usual" by voting in new blood. More ignorant voters turned out to vote last time,what you gonna do to help that situation? Vote and encourage like minded people to do the same.
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« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2010, 04:35:59 PM » |
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And Mr. Schmidt. Last election there was one presidential candidate definitely not born in the USA ...McCain. Look it up.
Someone born on a foreign U.S. military base is considered a natural born citizen. I'm sure you know that, but I guess a red herring was in order. You beat me to it. As for the "red herring" reference....you were more discreet than what I had in mind.  And yes, I'm sure Scanner already knew about the military base birthright of citizenship....assuming he's as well read as he'd like people to think he is. And so, moving on.......
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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2010, 04:47:15 PM » |
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And Mr. Schmidt. Last election there was one presidential candidate definitely not born in the USA ...McCain. Look it up.
Someone born on a foreign U.S. military base is considered a natural born citizen. I'm sure you know that, but I guess a red herring was in order. You beat me to it. As for the "red herring" reference....you were more discreet than what I had in mind.  And yes, I'm sure Scanner already knew about the military base birthright of citizenship....assuming he's as well read as he'd like people to think he is. And so, moving on....... you pot stirrer John
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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2010, 05:53:14 PM » |
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I learned here today that there were social security numbers in 1890-thought they came later.
Gee, so basically you learned an un-truth here today...and have taken it as the truth?? Go figure... Read question Q19. Although I'm sure with all the "conspiracy" talk here, that somebody will spout something to give you cause to doubt the SSA website...I'm sure SOMEone can come up with doctored video, with Benjamin Harrison talking about how HE invented Social Security, in 1890 ity http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html Actually, they said that Obama's Social Security number was of someone who was BORN in 1890, not issued. Just having a little fun at your expense, although it is funny, pointing out how something so easily becomes twisted. I noticed no one else caught it, perhaps because they were so intent on believing it... However, Parcbench DOES insist that Obama's SS Card WAS issued in 1890...maybe because they don't realize how foolish that is? Surely not... I know no one will believe it, because it's not from Fox, or Oily Taint, but here's a little more info for the soul... http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2010/02/obamas-social-security-number/and http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2998472/obamas_social_security_number_likely.html?cat=9And, just as additional info, I was born in Great Lakes Naval Hospital, Great Lakes, Illinois. I have no birth certificate, just a copy, as mine was lost early on. I moved to Hawaii, at the age of 3, in 1957, and lived there 8 years, moving to California in 1964. When I was 12, I got my first "job" working in the Library at the local Jr. High School, and at THAT time, got my Social Security Card. The numbers reflect that I got my card in California. I guess according to y'all, I have a bogus SS card, I'm foreign-born, and couldn't be President. And my copy of the BC, although allowing me to get into the Navy, and get a passport, doesn't "prove" that I am an American Citizen. Geez.... R
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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2010, 06:53:11 PM » |
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That's not the first time I've seen it so wasn't hard to spot. As for a birth certificate, I have much the same problem. My brother and I were adopted, I was 2 1/2 at the time, and as was often the case back in the late 30's the adoption process was sealed. Even though I have since found all my biological family and have letters from them, I still can't get any of the original records from the adoption process court proceedings. The only BC I have also is a copy, doesn't have a state seal either. But it didn't keep me out of the Air Force, and I was able to get a Top Secret clearance to boot. That turned out to be a PITA not only for me, but most of my family and neighbors. Turned out my biological family came from Italy, but my adopted family came from Germany with some rather questionable ties. They got it all cleared up, but it almost got me pushed into a different specialty in place of the one I wanted. I had my choice of anything the Air Force offered other than flying or the medical field, based on my scores during the notorious days of testing you undergo when first going into boot camp. I insisted on staying with the program I chose so the Air Force investigators(or whomever does it) finally relented and cleared me. Coming forward to a few years ago when I tried to apply for SS and my retirement from the State of Fla., neither liked my BC. I showed them an old family Bible, the adoption papers, the hospital record with my footprint and handprint on it, and the BC with my adopted last name. Took darn as long to retire as it did to clear me in the AF. 
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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2010, 07:24:07 PM » |
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So, what's wrong with the Enquirer? John Edwards sure wishes they didn't exist.
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« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2010, 07:58:06 PM » |
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Follow the money, just follow the money, if you can...... Lala, lala, la.... just follow the money to never land. Never mind that since we gained our independance from the British in the 1780's someone has been at work trying to gain an econmic advantage over you and I, the common folk. There is a money trail and it leads to some amazing stories of greed, lust for power, intrigue, death of miliions world wide. But who cares about Obama this, Bush that, lala, lala, la, ....... just follow the money, follow the money. But who cares? Or better yet, as many Christian brothers of mine say, no need to worry, God is in control. Tell that to the Russians when the Czar and all his family were rounded up and murdered followed by the death of millions of Christians and others. Or the communist takeover in China, again millions of deaths, or Adolf, he not only murdered millions of Jews, but also as many others, dissadents, many who were Christian. Naw, we have nothing to fear but fear itself, and ... complacency, apathy, and a false sense of securtiy that it could never happen in America. Oops, shouldn've have said that, oops, don't ruffle no feathers. Sorry guys, you didn't hear me say that. Lala, lala, la, just follow the money, follow the money,,,,,, 
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« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2010, 12:46:02 AM » |
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so, does this mean that arnold swortenhager is going to run for president? 
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« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2010, 04:19:10 AM » |
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Walkure, I made an error and mis-read the post. You are certainly correct, it does say "born in 1890", not issued then, as I took it to say. I truly appreciate your pointing this out to me. I hope that as you go through life, if you ever make a mistake (god-forbid!), somone will point it out to you so pleasantly. None of this has caused me to change my opinion about what is happening to our country. I am still concerned about it's future. All the chin music about a birthplace cannot change the wrongs being done and the rights of all of us being eroded.
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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2010, 04:26:35 AM » |
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so, does this mean that arnold swortenhager is going to run for president?  I think the whole country knows now how BADLY Ahnold messed up Kaliforneeya.......he wouldnt have a prayer unless he gets the back door sweep in like Obama did
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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2010, 09:03:04 AM » |
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OK, OK lets all write our congressmen and representatives (especially Republicans) to call for an Impeachment.
Or push for a Presidential recall vote (You all know that ACORN members voted several times apiece and illegal imigrants were also given the right to vote if they cast it for BO).
That way McCain and Palin can save this country from the treat of Islam, and the ultimate doom. No....better yet put GW Bush back in charge. The oil in the Gulf would cease to leak and wouldn't we all feel safer at night?
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OK, OK lets all write our congressmen and representatives (especially Republicans) to call for an Impeachment.
Or push for a Presidential recall vote (You all know that ACORN members voted several times apiece and illegal imigrants were also given the right to vote if they cast it for BO).
That way McCain and Palin can save this country from the treat of Islam, and the ultimate doom. No.... better yet put GW Bush back in charge. The oil in the Gulf would cease to leak and wouldn't we all feel safer at night?
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« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2010, 03:44:35 PM » |
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« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2010, 05:36:32 PM » |
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I promised not to do this but in the interest of honesty and fair play I will submit the following for everyone's edification and hopefully put this to rest. I posted this info once before but for the benefit of those that missed it or suffered a momentary lapse of memory here is the proof everyone has been looking for: I'm sure this will be satisfactory to confirm everyone's doubts. 
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well since I am Mr Rogers...................  I think a deal was made by Hillary & Bill for her to be the Secretary of State and the Clinton's didnt vet the issue at the time for political reasons as they are all democrats and needed to beat the republicans at a time when McCain was a real challenger (before Palin) Just show the real records and end the charade. Even Bill eventually admitted to Monica, although we all knew it when we re elected him for the 2nd term ymmv funny but at the Voai ride in we didnt discuss any of this stuff, but told lots of Valkyrie stories
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« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2010, 07:37:19 PM » |
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I read a few of the inputs, not all on this thread, to me it don't make sense what you are saying. We almost tossed Bill Clinton out in the street because he got a little nooky. Nixon got nailed because of his tapes and the break in. Now if it is true about BO it is basically saying that July 4 is a sham and the Constitution is not worth the paper it is written on. First it is hard to believe that anyone would over look that fact that he is not a US Citizen. Perfect fuel for a scandal, just don't see it.
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« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2010, 08:07:47 PM » |
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This birther conspiracy theory is getting a little stale. Anybody have any updates on the secret Nazi moonbase and how they're coming along with the alien reptiles in their plans for world domination?
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This birther conspiracy theory is getting a little stale. Anybody have any updates on the secret Nazi moonbase and how they're coming along with the alien reptiles in their plans for world domination?
Way ta go ya cursed blabbermouth! Now we have to move the secret base again! 
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funny but at the Voai ride in we didnt discuss any of this stuff, but told lots of Valkyrie stories
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We have to take our country back and to do it we have to change "politics as usual" by voting in new blood. More ignorant voters turned out to vote last time,what you gonna do to help that situation? Vote and encourage like minded people to do the same.
Isn' t CHANGE what this guy promised? Change, transparency, and an end to business as usual. Another freakin' LIAR, but this time they don't care, nor even try to hide it. Not looking forward to the cold weather, but November can't get here soon enough.
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This is my opinion. The word Politics means graceful deception. Its not rocket science that who is in place is not going to work in our best interest, unless it is there own best interest. Its massive Ego's out of control. We have the right to pay taxes and make up the difference when they are in error. I don't think they know how to handle money, it is simple if you make a $100 a week you don't spend $150 a week like a drunken sailor. I have been watching BO and there close other and have been noticing favoritism towards certain factions. But I could be mistaking.
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