......is bad for stocks

[98valk]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Cramer-Why-Obama-Is-Bad-for-tsmf-2364771359.html;_ylt=ApPNOfZHvsfL4_VcPOTGxr.7YWsA;_ylu=X3oDMTFmb3Q4c3QzBHBvcwMzBHNlYwNleHBlcnRPcGluaW9uRHluYW1pYwRzbGsDY3JhbWVyd2h5b2Jh?x=0


His administration is proving to be the champion for those who don't own stocks and perhaps never will. Or, worse, he thinks that the average working person saves in CDs -- is he unaware of the 25-year campaign by all to have retirement savings and college tuitions paid for by now-tattered stock portfolios?

[Mickey Runie]

 

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I can't get to any of the juicy tid bits posted here.   I guess I should consider myself lucky to be able, at least, get to the Valk forum.

[Momz]

I was told it's Obamas fault. ???

[Robert]

CA, and I never thought that I would hear myself say this we know you dont like Him Obama, but if I were you I would only post the real relevant or destructive. Other than that if you keep posting doom and gloom on Obama we wont know what posts to read as important and what ones to pass. I know you also believe and you know what the Bible says about the end times. I think Obama is starting to usher in the very things the Bible talks about. Its not pleasant nor is it something Christians should really worry about to much. Our strength and peace is not in the world nor its situation and if we really believe then we have to remember 2 other things.
Rom 13:1  Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.
Mat 28:20  teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
I dont say to give up nor stop trying to change things but be wise in how things are presented. Its all in the marketing.  The one thing I find interesting about the Obama presidency is the fact that his relatives knew from the very start that he would be president of the US. This is when he was a kid and going back to maybe when he was first born. With this thought in mind and something that no one has investigated means one of two things either they had a insight from God or that the whole thing was rigged and this is only the confirmation to what we pretty much all knew. That our presidents are really picked for us. This would explain that Obama isnt afraid of anything politically nor has respect for the common man. Why would you when you know that the system is rigged and that the ones that got you into office will keep you and protect you. So the damage being done now is not damage by the way Obama looks at it but the ushering in of a new way.

[Bobbo]

I think Obama is starting to usher in the very things the Bible talks about.

Since the “End Times” have been thought to be taking place over and over again for almost 2000 years, please explain what events are happening now that makes you believe this.

The one thing I find interesting about the Obama presidency is the fact that his relatives knew from the very start that he would be president of the US. This is when he was a kid and going back to maybe when he was first born.

Can you site credible evidence that President Obama’s relatives knew he would some day be President?  This sounds strangely like the Biblical story of the three wise men.  Have you possibly confused the two?

On a side note, please let us know when you’ve reached your goal of posting the entire New Testament onto this forum!

[Mickey Runie]

On a side note, please let us know when you’ve reached your goal of posting the entire New Testament onto this forum!

First of all, can you present any credible evidence that he, indeed, set a goal of posting the entire New Testament onto this forum.    And secondly, isn't that why you're here, Bobbo - to keep track of all the posts you feel are unworthy of posting?

......just sayin'.   

[Robert]

Bobbo there are 2 reasons not worth a conversation on this topic with you one is that you want to just argue and second if you cant see whats happening in our world then that explains why its pointless   

[98valk]

I think Obama is starting to usher in the very things the Bible talks about.

Since the “End Times” have been thought to be taking place over and over again for almost 2000 years, please explain what events are happening now that makes you believe this.


On a side note, please let us know when you’ve reached your goal of posting the entire New Testament onto this forum!

Bible tells us there will be one world currency. The plan is for a 3 world currency first then one.

http://www.forcingchange.org/one_world_one_money_without_endnotes
http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/the-g-20s-secret-debt-solution-27996
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=apjqJKKQvfDc&refer=home

also an one world leader/dictator from persia is told and one world religion

u need to be specific to your ? to Robert, king james version, new king james version, amplified, etc., could last longer than a Valkyrie 

[Bobbo]

CA: We are very far off from a world currency.  Maybe when Captain Kirk takes the helm, but not in the next few centuries!

The first link is propaganda to get you to join their organization.

The second link is pure speculation on the part of the author.

The Bloomberg link simply discusses the need for standardizing the exchange rates between the 3 major players in the global market to help stabilize it.  It doesn’t suggest that our leaders want to eliminate all but 3 currencies.

A Persian dictator?  You mean Iranian?  He doesn’t seem likely to become world dictator, and force the world into one religion.   During WWII, many people were convinced that Hitler was the prophesized anti-Christ, and the world was ending.  That didn’t work out as expected.  What makes modern times any different?

[98valk]

CA: We are very far off from a world currency.  Maybe when Captain Kirk takes the helm, but not in the next few centuries!

The first link is propaganda to get you to join their organization.

The second link is pure speculation on the part of the author.

The Bloomberg link simply discusses the need for standardizing the exchange rates between the 3 major players in the global market to help stabilize it.  It doesn’t suggest that our leaders want to eliminate all but 3 currencies.

A Persian dictator?  You mean Iranian?  He doesn’t seem likely to become world dictator, and force the world into one religion.   During WWII, many people were convinced that Hitler was the prophesized anti-Christ, and the world was ending.  That didn’t work out as expected.  What makes modern times any different?

why are u in such denial? because it will cause u to change your ways (admit u have been wrong?) and to realize that the Bible is real and true. Most likely this will happen during or after 2012.
just search on the topic. This has been an ongoing plan since the mid to late 1800s. The Lamb has opened the first seal.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/5096524/The-G20-moves-the-world-a-step-closer-to-a-global-currency.html

http://www.prlog.org/10141522-single-global-currency-assn-urges-g20-to-initiate-research-and-planning-for-single-global-currency.html

[Robert]

Surrendering sovereignty
By Dick Morris - 09/29/09 05:51 PM ET

While all eyes were on the rantings of Ahmadinejad at the United Nations, the United States — under President Barack Obama — was surrendering its economic sovereignty at the G-20 summit. The result of this conclave, which France’s President Nicolas Sarkozy hailed as “revolutionary,” was that all the nations agreed to coordinate their economic policies and programs and to submit them to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) for comment and approval. While the G-20 nations and the IMF are, for now, only going to use “moral suasion” on those nations found not to be in compliance, talk of sanctions looms on the horizon.

While the specific policies to which the U.S. committed itself (reducing the deficit and strengthening regulatory oversight of financial institutions) are laudable in themselves, the process and the precedent are frightening. We are to subject our most basic national economic policies to the review of a group of nations that includes autocratic Russia, China and Saudi Arabia. Even though our GDP is three times bigger than the second largest economy (Japan) and equal to that of 13 of the G-20 nations combined, we are to sit politely by with our one vote and submit to the global consensus. Europe has five votes (U.K., France, Germany, Italy and the EU) while we have but one.
http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/dick-morris/60763-surrendering-sovereignty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_currency_union
Implementation would involve the three countries giving up their current currency units (U.S. dollar, Canadian dollar, and Mexican peso) and adopting a new one, created specifically for this purpose. (Some versions of the theory, particularly those circulating in Canada, assume only the United States and Canada would be included.) The hypothetical currency for the union is most often referred to as the amero.[1][2]  The concept is modeled on the common European Union currency (the euro), and it is argued to be a natural extension of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP).
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34145
Monckton then warned that if Obama were to sign the treaty, he would be flushing U.S. sovereignty down the global toilet. He further pointed out that even though ratification of our president's signature on that treaty would need 67 votes in the Senate, it could pass via a simple majority as an amendment to the cap-and-trade bill.
Surrendering sovereignty
By Dick Morris - 09/29/09 05:51 PM ET

Iran Ready To Go Nuclear Against Israel !!!!!	powered by Aeva

[Bobbo]

Again, the discussions at the G-20 summit are regarding standardization of currency exchange.  The IMF oversees currency conversion; it does not regulate currency.   Looks like Snopes has a response to the Amero stuff:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amerocoin.asp

[Robert]

The Amero - North American Currency	powered by Aeva

Now I know why the US is not securing its boarders

NORTH AMERICAN UNION EXPOSED on Lou Dobbs w/ Marcy Kaptur & Bill Tucker	powered by Aeva

That is on the Amero the currency or actual coin that others have posted pictures of not the forming of the North American Union taking away the US as we know it.

[98valk]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/yates/yates14.html
The means by which America’s masses have been stripped of their freedoms to date have all been very gradual, often by stealth; there is enough in the above-cited documents to indicate that this will not change. Why should it? To date it has been an effective methodology of increasing control. It has already led to a level of state power over individuals that would have horrified the Framers.


http://www.threeworldwars.com/nwo-timeline1.htm
September 9, 1960 -- President Eisenhower signs Senate Joint Resolution 170, promoting the concept of a federal Atlantic Union. Pollster and Atlantic Union Committee treasurer, Elmo Roper, later delivers an address titled, The Goal Is Government of All the World, in which he states:

"For it becomes clear that the first step toward World Government cannot be completed until we have advanced on the four fronts: the economic, the military, the political and the social."

1961 -- The U.S. State Department issues a plan to disarm all nations and arm the United Nations. State Department Document Number 7277 is entitled Freedom From War: The U.S. Program for General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful World. It details a three-stage plan to disarm all nations and arm the U.N. with the final stage in which "no state would have the military power to challenge the progressively strengthened U.N. Peace Force."

1975 -- In Congress, 32 Senators and 92 Representatives sign A Declaration of Interdependence, written by historian Henry Steele Commager. The Declaration states that:

"we must join with others to bring forth a new world order... Narrow notions of national sovereignty must not be permitted to curtail that obligation."

Congresswoman Marjorie Holt refuses to sign the Declaration saying:

"It calls for the surrender of our national sovereignty to international organizations. It declares that our economy should be regulated by international authorities. It proposes that we enter a 'new world order' that would redistribute the wealth created by the American people."

1975 -- Retired Navy Admiral Chester Ward, former Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy and former CFR member, writes in a critique that the goal of the CFR is the "submergence of U. S. sovereignty and national independence into an all powerful one-world government..."

and on and on it goes. just google new world order. look for all of the treaties signed in the early to mid 1960s.

[Bobbo]

Obviously, these proposals are just that-- proposals that have never been implemented.  Proposals are offered up all the time, but very few are passed.  Even when passed, they are only resolutions and opinions, not laws.  We are not any closer to some sort of “new world order” than we were 50 or 100 years ago.
The reason treaties are signed between nations is to formalize business agreements and currency exchange.  They do not attempt to join nations under one government as you suggest.
Other talk of “new world order” is an attempt to reign in rogue nations under a global legal system.  Most of these talks break down, as they always have, since no nation wants to be subject to another’s laws.
People like Steven Yates, whose article you supplied a link to, have a vested interest in suggesting the world will come to an end soon and that the Biblical Revelations are happening now.  It increases readership!