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« on: July 02, 2010, 12:12:40 PM » |
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Hi Fellas Anyone Know Of A Link For Installing A 6 Degree Timing Wheel. I Did A Search & Found Nothing. If Someone Could Post A Link i Would Certainly Appreciate it. Dave
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2010, 01:06:16 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2010, 04:01:11 PM » |
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Dave,
If you are changing the belts while you are in there, let us know because there is one quirk that you need to know about. Bill
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2010, 05:00:38 PM » |
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with whiteout or some other method to be SURE that nothing moves when you take the belt off. When you take the belt off, the valve springs and or cylinder pressure will try to move the camshaft. One tooth off and result is bent valves. Measure twice, cut once is the carpenters saying.
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2010, 06:37:51 AM » |
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A camera is a very good friend to help you remember how things go back together for us older mechanics. Also if you have any doubts about your work remove plugs and turn engine over with a rachet on the crank bolt to make sure every thing is in time and nothing hits.
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2010, 06:52:26 AM » |
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You may want to try a board with bolts, aligned to go through the slots in your cam gear to keep the cam from slipping...like this...  Better view  Maybe you should use a bigger board (2x4) so this doesn't happen (it still worked) 
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2010, 09:51:47 AM » |
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Using a wrench on the cam bolts is an easy way to align the sprockets.
Always turning easily is the way to avoid any interference problems.
Normally if you have the crank at TDC the cams will not want to turn as long as you don't touch them, and as stated before, they will at most only turn a tooth or so which is easy to spot.
The final check again is to turn the crank and check for perfect alignment before buttoning up the cover.
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2010, 04:49:55 PM » |
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It will run a little hotter and tend to ping a little with regular gas.
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2010, 04:37:55 AM » |
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Thanks For The Help Fellas. 
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2010, 04:40:51 AM » |
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Whats the advantage of this 6 degree wheel?
No advantage, IMHO.  hoser
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2010, 03:43:26 AM » |
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I'm surprised you don't think there's an advantage.
I installed a 4 degree TW on my Std. and absolutely felt a difference immediatly. My engine revs so much faster than without it. My tach heads toward red line way faster with the new TW. Bill
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2010, 10:27:31 AM » |
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After the trigger wheel is installed, there is a new vibration upon hard acceleration near the 2700 RPM range and up. Yes I use Ethel now. Yes it's goes faster and yes 3-4 MPG gain. I had a trigger wheel in my first Valk for 60,000 miles and no problems, but it too had some vibration??? When I took it out before selling, (it is now in my new Valk) the vibe was less. I'm kinda wondering why this is. And is it better just to leave the stock gear in. Over the long haul, hundreds of thoundsands of miles, will it take a toll on the motor? Do some of you who have 200,000 miles +, have a trigger installed?? I've seen the graphs and read the post, but now that it's been many years of many miles of real experience, not just dynos, maybe some of you high milers can put in your 2 cents. Thanks, SKI 
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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2010, 05:38:31 PM » |
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I'm surprised you don't think there's an advantage.
I installed a 4 degree TW on my Std. and absolutely felt a difference immediatly. My engine revs so much faster than without it. My tach heads toward red line way faster with the new TW. Bill
I've heard of more troubles than improvements. Mostly tied to cheaply made aftermarket parts. There are better ways to make horsepower. Stocktrigger wheel on this. Made 6 extra horsepower with exhaust mods. Gets 40mpg on regular at legal speeds. To each his own. JMHO. Hoser  
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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2010, 06:41:25 PM » |
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After the trigger wheel is installed, there is a new vibration upon hard acceleration near the 2700 RPM range and up. Yes I use Ethel now. Yes it's goes faster and yes 3-4 MPG gain. I had a trigger wheel in my first Valk for 60,000 miles and no problems, but it too had some vibration??? When I took it out before selling, (it is now in my new Valk) the vibe was less. I'm kinda wondering why this is. And is it better just to leave the stock gear in. Over the long haul, hundreds of thoundsands of miles, will it take a toll on the motor? Do some of you who have 200,000 miles +, have a trigger installed?? I've seen the graphs and read the post, but now that it's been many years of many miles of real experience, not just dynos, maybe some of you high milers can put in your 2 cents. Thanks, SKI I've got 153K miles in, most of them with the 6° wheel and no probs. Yes, I run premium. That does include some sidecar time but I'm always careful not to dog it with the sidecar on. Not sure what the vibration would be that you mention though. That would worry me. 
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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2010, 06:42:32 PM » |
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I'm surprised you don't think there's an advantage.
I installed a 4 degree TW on my Std. and absolutely felt a difference immediatly. My engine revs so much faster than without it. My tach heads toward red line way faster with the new TW. Bill
I've heard of more troubles than improvements. Mostly tied to cheaply made aftermarket parts. There are better ways to make horsepower. Stocktrigger wheel on this. Made 6 extra horsepower with exhaust mods. Gets 40mpg on regular at legal speeds. To each his own. JMHO. Hoser What problems have folks had?
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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2010, 07:48:30 PM » |
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242,000 miles. 6 degree in since 13,000 One of the good ones that Lamont sold. Burn Ethanol 10% NO ping, if it pings you will find little aluminum balls on the tip of the plugs. Depending on the tach, is what makes my MPG vary.
Over 3,500 RPM. kiss it goodbye, lowest was 19 pulling a trailer into a headwind in SD., yes, MPH was over the century mark.
3,000 RPM it gives consistently 38 to 39 MPG
below 3,000 RPM & it will give 40.
These are all highway ratings.
In town and no highway, consistent 35. I've kept records of the gas put into MGM since new, the average overall today is. 36.8 MPG
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2010, 08:50:37 AM » |
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RJ, Is that using 87,89 or 93 octane gas ?
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