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big turkey
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« on: July 06, 2010, 06:25:38 AM »

> > How did  Jefferson  know?
> >
> > John F. Kennedy held a dinner in the white House for a group of the
> > brightest minds in the nation at that time. He made this statement:
> > "This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to
> > gather at one time in the White House with the exception of
> > when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."
> > Especially read the last quote from 1802.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > When we get piled
> > upon one another in large cities, as in Europe,
> > we shall become as corrupt as  Europe  .
> > Thomas Jefferson
> >
> >
> > The democracy will cease to exist
> > when you take away from those
> > who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
> > Thomas Jefferson
> >
> >
> > It is incumbent on every
> > generation to pay its own debts as it goes.
> > A principle which if acted on would save
> > one-half the wars of the world.
> > Thomas Jefferson
> >
> >
> > I predict future happiness for
> > Americans if they can prevent the government
> > from wasting the labors of the people under the
> > pretense of taking care of them.
> > Thomas Jefferson 
> >
> >
> > My reading of history convinces me
> > that most bad government results from too much
> > government.
> > Thomas Jefferson
> >
> >
> > No free man shall ever be debarred
> > the use of arms.
> > Thomas Jefferson
> >
> >
> > The strongest reason for the
> > people to retain the right to keep and bear arms
> > is, as a last resort, to protect themselves
> > against tyranny in government.
> > Thomas Jefferson
> >
> >
> > The tree of liberty must be
> > refreshed from time to time with the blood of
> > patriots and tyrants.
> > Thomas Jefferson
> >
> >
> > To compel a man to subsidize with
> > his taxes the propagation of ideas which he
> > disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
> > Thomas Jefferson
> >
> >
> > Thomas  Jefferson said in 1802:
> > 'I believe that
> > banking institutions are more dangerous to
> > our liberties than standing armies.
> > If the American people ever allow
> > private banks to control the issue of their
> > currency, first by inflation, then by
> > deflation, the banks and corporations that will
> > grow up around the banks will deprive the people
> > of all property - until their children
> > wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers
> > conquered.'
> > 
> > I WISH WE COULD GET THIS OUT TO EVERYONE!!!
> > I'll do my part!
> > 
> >
> >
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big turkey
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2010, 06:31:58 AM »

http://www.hannity.com/article/an-open-letter-from-actor-jon-voight-to-president-obama/11044
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2010, 06:42:18 AM »

Obama knows.......exactly........NOVEMBER!
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2010, 07:28:54 AM »

George Santayana:
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

And if I may add, those who do not learn from the mistakes of others (Europe) are condeming this nation their children and their offspring to a life of poverty.

When you butcher the golden goose, don't plan on eggs for breakfast.

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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 07:48:59 AM »

the bilboard is in the wrong language!  police
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2010, 09:24:00 AM »

Obama's Plan for NASA : Forget Space, Improve Relations With Muslim Worldpowered by Aeva
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big turkey
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2010, 09:29:18 AM »




“NASA is not only a space exploration agency,” Bolden concluded, “but also an earth improvement agency



Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/obamas-new-mission-for-nasa-reach-out-to-muslim-world-97785979.html#ixzz0sv7yA4Dl
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2010, 10:39:00 AM »

Thanks for posting that Al. I hope everyone in the VRCC reads it.
Thomas Jefferson has been my favorite American Hero since we toured his home several years ago.
The man was a genius in many ways.
 
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2010, 05:02:06 PM »

BIG AL:  If you were to listen to this YouTube video in the link you provided, at around the 1:14 mark, Mr. Bolden states that BEFORE he became NASA administrator, he was tasked to do several things: Re-inspire children, expand international relationships, and reach out to the Muslim world.  He then went on to explain about how the ISS shows cooperation between nations.

Mr. Bolden was an astronaut before heading NASA.  Astronauts are quite often viewed as ambassadors of sorts since they are respected world-wide, and quite often work with space agencies of other nations.

You would do well to learn of Mr. Bolden’s military accomplishments and service to this country before spreading disparaging remarks about him.

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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2010, 05:16:07 PM »

BIG AL:  If you were to listen to this YouTube video in the link you provided, at around the 1:14 mark, Mr. Bolden states that BEFORE he became NASA administrator, he was tasked to do several things: Re-inspire children, expand international relationships, and reach out to the Muslim world.  He then went on to explain about how the ISS shows cooperation between nations.

Mr. Bolden was an astronaut before heading NASA.  Astronauts are quite often viewed as ambassadors of sorts since they are respected world-wide, and quite often work with space agencies of other nations.

You would do well to learn of Mr. Bolden’s military accomplishments and service to this country before spreading disparaging remarks about him.



What "disparaging" remarks were made? Did I miss something ? Or are you reading into things again?
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2010, 05:30:08 PM »

Bobbo,
Oh, never mind...
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2010, 06:31:56 PM »

What "disparaging" remarks were made? Did I miss something ? Or are you reading into things again?

Let's ask BIG AL his reasons for posting the video and comments.
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2010, 08:24:28 PM »

BIG AL:  If you were to listen to this YouTube video in the link you provided, at around the 1:14 mark, Mr. Bolden states that BEFORE he became NASA administrator, he was tasked to do several things: Re-inspire children, expand international relationships, and reach out to the Muslim world.  He then went on to explain about how the ISS shows cooperation between nations.

Mr. Bolden was an astronaut before heading NASA.  Astronauts are quite often viewed as ambassadors of sorts since they are respected world-wide, and quite often work with space agencies of other nations.

You would do well to learn of Mr. Bolden’s military accomplishments and service to this country before spreading disparaging remarks about him.


Veteran psychiatrist calls liberals mentally ill
"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness." "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."

for more than 35 years he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago.

Rossiter says the kind of liberalism being displayed by both Barack Obama and his Democratic primary opponent Hillary Clinton can only be understood as a psychological disorder.


http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=56494
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2010, 08:57:00 PM »


All this is old poopoo from the last Presidential election, but if if makes you feel good, why not.

Feb 17, 2008 Op Ed: Dr. Rossiter's message: "I know you are but what am I?"
Several years after a Federally funded study found that conservatism was a mental disorder a Right Wing psychiatrist has released a book, timed for the election cycle, claiming the same things about Liberals. Are we to believe that this is a coincidence?
Little known shrink and political hack Dr. Lyle Rossiter has released a new book entitled "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness" that is designed to feed the red meat hunger of Right Wing ideologues at a time when the Conservative movement is on the ropes after seven years of incompetence and corruption under George W. Bush.
Most of its claims are not so subtle reversals of the conclusions reached by four distinguished scholars that were funded by the US Government in a study to discover the roots of conservatism.
The report "Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition" cost $1.2 million and was supervised by the National Foundation as well as the National Institutes of Health. It found that conservatism is essentially a set of neuroses rooted in "fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity".
In an article published in the highly respected peer reviewed scholarly journal "Psychological Bulletin" the authors state:
"This intolerance of ambiguity can lead people to cling to the familiar, to arrive at premature conclusions, and to impose simplistic cliches and stereotypes."
Among the sufferers of this heart-breaking malady the researchers studied President George W. Bush and found him to be a "textbook case" of the madness. Among the early warning signs that he exhibits is "his preference for moral certainty and frequently expressed dislike of nuance." The scientists believe that it was Bush's aversion to shades of gray and the need for "closure" that led him to ignore intelligence that contradicted his beliefs about Iraq's non existent WMD's.
At the time that this report came out conservatives were outraged and dismissed the whole thing as merely the opinion of the scientists involved. It is highly amusing now to watch conservatives fall all over themselves to tout Dr. Rossiter unscientific and undocumented political scree simply because it gives them comfort in the face of their impending humiliation at the polls come November.
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2010, 05:12:27 AM »

like those organizations are not paid off. maybe u should do more research of them and the agenda behind them.
here is one instance of their agenda. do u also know that they promote adult/child love relationships.
Yea as a conservative I'm against man/young boy sex relations being normal and healthy for the child. do u know this is very common on the streets in certain european countries, all the result of liberlism. and u support this and these psychiatrist?

http://www.cultureandfamily.org/articledisplay.asp?id=2927&department=CFI&categoryid=papers

By a vote of its House of Delegates, the American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality from its list of disordered conditions in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the bible of the profession. The change came about not because of new research. Scientists had made no groundbreaking discoveries. No, the change because of a political coup engineered by homosexual activists, a process documented by pro-gay writer Ronald Bayer.18

Dr. Charles Socarides, a practicing psychiatrist who witnessed events at APA conventions, including threats of violence by homosexual activists, said, "The APA could only take the action it did by disregarding and dismissing hundreds of psychiatric and psychoanalytic research papers and reports that had been done on homosexuality over the previous two decades."19 In 1974, the American Psychological Association followed suit under similar conditions. Meanwhile, under pressure from homosexual activists, states had already begun dropping laws against sodomy, thus paving the way for the free-wheeling, promiscuous "gay" scene that homosexual writer Randy Shilts chronicled as the prelude to the AIDS epidemic of the 1980s.20


also read http://apologetics315.blogspot.com/2010/02/book-review-faith-of-fatherless.html

Faith of the Fatherless: The Psychology of Atheism  
there seems to be a widespread assumption, throughout much of our intellectual community, that belief in God is based on all kinds of irrational, immature needs and wishes, whereas atheism or skepticism flows from a rational, grown-up, no-nonsense view of things as they really are. To challenge the psychology of this viewpoint is the primary concern of this book. As I present the evidence from the lives of atheists, I will be looking for regularities, for patterns that distinguish their lives from those of a comparable group of theists.

Vitz looks first at the lives of famous atheists whose fathers died quite early: Friedich Nietzsche, David Hume, Bertrand Russell, Jean-Paul Sartre, Albert Camus, and Arthur Schopenhaur. He then looks at the abusive and weak fathers of Thomas Hobbes, Jean Meslier, Voltaire, Jean d’Alembert, Baron d’Holbach, Ludwig Feurbach, Samuel Butler, Sigmund Freud, and H.G. Wells. Vitz provides a historical vignette of each figure, describing their childhood, the father’s role, and the resulting psychological impact. The author finds that, “Looking back at our thirteen major historical rejectors of a personal God, we find a weak, dead, or abusive father in every case.”8

enjoy in Christ
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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2010, 07:08:12 AM »

Mr. Bolden's comments were his own and he is the one telling all who will listen that NASA is in the

business of making Muslims Feel good about themselves and the contributions to math and science.

If you listen to what Mr. Bolden said, instead of what you wanted to hear, you would understand that he was personally tasked before he was appointed.  This does not mean that the agency he oversees is also tasked with the same mission.

Well the last time I checked Yasser Arafatt and Barack Hussien Obama( Formerly Barry)(He changed his name to reflect his Muslimity)Snopes it if you will please.

Can you show documents where President Obama legally changed his name?  When I was a child, I went by the name of “Bobby”.  As I got into my early teen years, I was known as “Robert”, my legal given name.  From my latter teen years on, I am known as “Bob”.  Is this an example of me changing my name for some sinister purpose, or is having a nickname common?

I thought the Government was not supposed to favor one religion over another.

So don't pee down my back and tell me it's raining

Big Al

See my first comment.
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big turkey
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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2010, 08:15:12 AM »

Obama Forces NASA to Engage Muslims (7.6.10)powered by Aeva
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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2010, 08:21:23 AM »

NASA Icons Blast Obama's Space Program Planspowered by Aeva
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Bobbo
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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2010, 08:23:07 AM »

like those organizations are not paid off. maybe u should do more research of them and the agenda behind them.
here is one instance of their agenda. do u also know that they promote adult/child love relationships.
Yea as a conservative I'm against man/young boy sex relations being normal and healthy for the child. do u know this is very common on the streets in certain european countries, all the result of liberlism. and u support this and these psychiatrist?

Until you pointed it out, I was unaware that the Catholic Church was a bastion of liberalism and freewheeling thinking.

By a vote of its House of Delegates, the American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality from its list of disordered conditions in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the bible of the profession. The change came about not because of new research. Scientists had made no groundbreaking discoveries. No, the change because of a political coup engineered by homosexual activists, a process documented by pro-gay writer Ronald Bayer.18

Dr. Charles Socarides, a practicing psychiatrist who witnessed events at APA conventions, including threats of violence by homosexual activists, said, "The APA could only take the action it did by disregarding and dismissing hundreds of psychiatric and psychoanalytic research papers and reports that had been done on homosexuality over the previous two decades."19 In 1974, the American Psychological Association followed suit under similar conditions. Meanwhile, under pressure from homosexual activists, states had already begun dropping laws against sodomy, thus paving the way for the free-wheeling, promiscuous "gay" scene that homosexual writer Randy Shilts chronicled as the prelude to the AIDS epidemic of the 1980s.20

Please post references to the scientific studies that showed conclusively that homosexuality is a mental disorder.  When the APA removed homosexuality from it’s list of disorders, it did so under pressure to show the research into the subject.  There was no research, and that is why it was removed.

Faith of the Fatherless: The Psychology of Atheism  
there seems to be a widespread assumption, throughout much of our intellectual community, that belief in God is based on all kinds of irrational, immature needs and wishes, whereas atheism or skepticism flows from a rational, grown-up, no-nonsense view of things as they really are. To challenge the psychology of this viewpoint is the primary concern of this book. As I present the evidence from the lives of atheists, I will be looking for regularities, for patterns that distinguish their lives from those of a comparable group of theists.

Vitz looks first at the lives of famous atheists whose fathers died quite early: Friedich Nietzsche, David Hume, Bertrand Russell, Jean-Paul Sartre, Albert Camus, and Arthur Schopenhaur. He then looks at the abusive and weak fathers of Thomas Hobbes, Jean Meslier, Voltaire, Jean d’Alembert, Baron d’Holbach, Ludwig Feurbach, Samuel Butler, Sigmund Freud, and H.G. Wells. Vitz provides a historical vignette of each figure, describing their childhood, the father’s role, and the resulting psychological impact. The author finds that, “Looking back at our thirteen major historical rejectors of a personal God, we find a weak, dead, or abusive father in every case.”8

enjoy in Christ

Your reference has confused correlation with causation.  A similar example would be:  A study is done in certain neighborhoods of a large city.  The study concentrated on young teens that commit crimes.  The study found that most teen criminals have a mother who goes to Church regularly.  While this example study would most likely be true, it does not conclude that a Church going mother causes teen criminals. 
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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2010, 08:41:00 AM »

Can you show documents where President Obama legally changed his name?  When I was a child, I went by the name of “Bobby”.  As I got into my early teen years, I was known as “Robert”, my legal given name.  From my latter teen years on, I am known as “Bob”.  Is this an example of me changing my name for some sinister purpose, or is having a nickname common?

Can you show documents where President Obama was born legally in the United States of America?   Of course you can't.  Some on this forum (myself for sure) refer to you as "Troll".  I'm not sure what your purpose here is.

Like Al's title to this thread clearly stated, it was going to be political.   If you have some pro-bama political views you'd like to share with the forum, why don't you start your own thread - and be sure to include any/all proof(s) necessary to support your views.  And give warning so us as share Al's views on the undocumented worker occupying the White House can skip over your post.

I'm just saying.   Wink

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My wife, daughter and I put in approximately 600 miles these past two weekends riding our bikes in the beautiful Arkansas Ozark mountains. Sorry, I have no pictorial proof as I don't have the off-site picture saavy to share them on this forum.

How about you Robert?  You put down any good bike miles lately?  If so, where? 


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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2010, 09:19:33 AM »

Mickey Rune:  I am aware of your newfound idiom, and can clearly see that you use it to label people who have different views than you.

I don’t generally start political threads, but when one is posted, I will respond to inaccuracies I see and ask for something to back up a claim.  That is the intended use of a social forum, not as a mouthpiece for a specific viewpoint.

If you check, I became a member of the VOA in 1998.  When that disbanded, and Lamont started the VRCC, I was one of the charter members.  I ride to work every day I can, and my 1998 Valkyrie Tourer has 158,621 miles on it as it sits in the parking lot at my office.  In less than three weeks, I will be taking a trip to Biloxi, New Orleans, and Memphis, which will log over 2600 miles.  I have several documented IronButt rides, and next year will take another 5800 mile trip to the West coast, taking 8 days to complete.
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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2010, 09:26:06 AM »

my 1998 Valkyrie Tourer has 158,621 miles on it as it sits in the parking lot at my office. 

Bobbo you and I may look at the world differently in some ways....but I gotta salute you for your 159K miles on a Valkyrie!  Job well done....
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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2010, 09:36:55 AM »

Mickey Rune:  I am aware of your newfound idiom, and can clearly see that you use it to label people who have different views than you.

I don’t generally start political threads, but when one is posted, I will respond to inaccuracies I see and ask for something to back up a claim.  That is the intended use of a social forum, not as a mouthpiece for a specific viewpoint.

If you check, I became a member of the VOA in 1998.  When that disbanded, and Lamont started the VRCC, I was one of the charter members.  I ride to work every day I can, and my 1998 Valkyrie Tourer has 158,621 miles on it as it sits in the parking lot at my office.  In less than three weeks, I will be taking a trip to Biloxi, New Orleans, and Memphis, which will log over 2600 miles.  I have several documented IronButt rides, and next year will take another 5800 mile trip to the West coast, taking 8 days to complete.


I don't do big words like idiom, and I don't care what you joined, nor when,  but I'd be proud to sit down in the back yard with ya, if you wanted to stop by our place in SW MO on your way to where ever.  The wife will probably offer you a beer (I don't drink) to go with the conversation.  Just don't ask me for proof of everything I say whilst we chit chat.   My opinion of you might not be so IDIOM if EVERY post you posted on here wasn't a negative towards who ever posted the thread just because you disagree.

Again, I'm just saying.
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2010, 10:14:12 AM »

Mickey Rune:  I am aware of your newfound idiom, and can clearly see that you use it to label people who have different views than you.

I don’t generally start political threads, but when one is posted, I will respond to inaccuracies I see and ask for something to back up a claim.  That is the intended use of a social forum, not as a mouthpiece for a specific viewpoint.

If you check, I became a member of the VOA in 1998.  When that disbanded, and Lamont started the VRCC, I was one of the charter members.  I ride to work every day I can, and my 1998 Valkyrie Tourer has 158,621 miles on it as it sits in the parking lot at my office.  In less than three weeks, I will be taking a trip to Biloxi, New Orleans, and Memphis, which will log over 2600 miles.  I have several documented IronButt rides, and next year will take another 5800 mile trip to the West coast, taking 8 days to complete.

LOL!! lets see here....Me...Myself...and .....I !!  2funny don't see any WE in your life?  ok... I am....I don't...I will...I see...I was...I ride...My office...I can...I will....I have....I became.......it's all about I LOL!!! we almost started taking you serious but you are a Proud man Grin  besides wanting to share everyone's wealth have we helped anyone lately besides I coolsmiley 
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2010, 10:43:35 AM »

LOL!! lets see here....Me...Myself...and .....I !!  2funny don't see any WE in your life?  ok... I am....I don't...I will...I see...I was...I ride...My office...I can...I will....I have....I became.......it's all about I LOL!!! we almost started taking you serious but you are a Proud man Grin  besides wanting to share everyone's wealth have we helped anyone lately besides I coolsmiley 

Wow, not sure if this is a serious inquiry, or just an opportunity for you to see your avatar posted again…

Mickey Rune’s questions and comments were directed at ME, not my friends or family.  I do not speak for them on this forum, only for myself.  When you say “we almost started taking you serious”, are you referring to you and the frog in your pocket?!   Roll Eyes

As a fiscal conservative, I have no desire to “share everyone’s wealth” as you put it, but I do share my own wealth of time and money with the March of Dimes and several veterans’ charities.  I’m not sure why you find this important or relevant to the discussion, but there ya go!   Cheesy

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« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2010, 11:10:50 AM »

LOL!! lets see here....Me...Myself...and .....I !!  2funny don't see any WE in your life?  ok... I am....I don't...I will...I see...I was...I ride...My office...I can...I will....I have....I became.......it's all about I LOL!!! we almost started taking you serious but you are a Proud man Grin  besides wanting to share everyone's wealth have we helped anyone lately besides I coolsmiley 

Wow, not sure if this is a serious inquiry, or just an opportunity for you to see your avatar posted again…

Mickey Rune’s questions and comments were directed at ME, not my friends or family.  I do not speak for them on this forum, only for myself.  When you say “we almost started taking you serious”, are you referring to you and the frog in your pocket?!   Roll Eyes

As a fiscal conservative, I have no desire to “share everyone’s wealth” as you put it, but I do share my own wealth of time and money with the March of Dimes and several veterans’ charities.  I’m not sure why you find this important or relevant to the discussion, but there ya go!   Cheesy



Now Robert.   That's the line I use every time my wife, Shala, says "we" will do this or that.   

While I'm not a frog, Fstsix can include me in his statement of "we".   I won't attempt to speak for anyone else on this forum, but I know I'M still waiting for you to show some shred of PROOF Obama was indeed, born in the US of A.   While I'M at it, can I get you to show some proof of your Valk mileage and iron butt rides?  And, I'd also like to ask if ALL those miles on your Valk were put there by you personally, and if so, show me the proof.   I mean, come on.   Apparently, a person is supposed to have proof of anything said in posts on this forum.  Also, could you provide ME proof of your charitable donations?

You don't really have to show proof to all who read this forum, but if, by chance, you wanted to stop by for that brew and conversation on your way to New Orleans, you can bring it with you.  I'll reciprocate by showing you all the bikes in my garage and pictures accordingly.  Better plan on an overnight visit as my wife refers to me as "chatty Cathy" when I start talking bikes so it would be difficult for you to get away any sooner.    Heck, consider it a bike party.

What I'm trying to say is it would be easier to take you seriously, and not as a Troll, if you had more input in posts than your usual BS asking for proof of this or that and always disputing someone elses' comments.  It is what it is, and your posting history speaks for itself.  I, personally, think you post merely to make yourself feel smarter than the average bear.  I suspect you are not.   I have no proof of this and freely admit it.
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« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2010, 11:59:56 AM »



Wow, not sure if this is a serious inquiry, or just an opportunity for you to see your avatar posted again…

Mickey Rune’s questions and comments were directed at ME, not my friends or family.  I do not speak for them on this forum, only for myself.  When you say “we almost started taking you serious”, are you referring to you and the frog in your pocket?!   Roll Eyes

As a fiscal conservative, I have no desire to “share everyone’s wealth” as you put it, but I do share my own wealth of time and money with the March of Dimes and several veterans’ charities.  I’m not sure why you find this important or relevant to the discussion, but there ya go!   Cheesy


We are all on the general board, weather you are a fiscal conservative or not Jim, you sound foolish when you get fired up, some of us can see that by putting a twist on our reply it is entertaining at best, but like the Commander and Chief to much is destructive by the post i put regarding the amount of times O has been on Network TV, As far as your good deeds? how about some good ole pictures.....some of us don't read so well  coolsmiley   Grin  why is relevant to the discussion? we need a roll model to help us self centered people learn how to make our Country a better place, by what we can do as a individual's  not by force or enslaved in  Government laws that make us all Criminals,you fell for your own trap when you went on about yourself, it gives a picture of who you are as you are trying to do, to all the Anti Big Gov opposition replies here, not trying to judge you, just your mirror tact just reflected you, "your own words" 
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« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2010, 10:02:44 AM »

Hey Al,
You forgot the principle that has kept this country great-SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
He also liked that "brown sugar" with his conservative coffee.
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« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2010, 10:06:17 AM »



Wow, not sure if this is a serious inquiry, or just an opportunity for you to see your avatar posted again…

Mickey Rune’s questions and comments were directed at ME, not my friends or family.  I do not speak for them on this forum, only for myself.  When you say “we almost started taking you serious”, are you referring to you and the frog in your pocket?!   Roll Eyes

As a fiscal conservative, I have no desire to “share everyone’s wealth” as you put it, but I do share my own wealth of time and money with the March of Dimes and several veterans’ charities.  I’m not sure why you find this important or relevant to the discussion, but there ya go!   Cheesy


We are all on the general board, weather you are a fiscal conservative or not Jim, you sound foolish when you get fired up, some of us can see that by putting a twist on our reply it is entertaining at best, but like the Commander and Chief to much is destructive by the post i put regarding the amount of times O has been on Network TV, As far as your good deeds? how about some good ole pictures.....some of us don't read so well  coolsmiley   Grin  why is relevant to the discussion? we need a roll model to help us self centered people learn how to make our Country a better place, by what we can do as a individual's  not by force or enslaved in  Government laws that make us all Criminals,you fell for your own trap when you went on about yourself, it gives a picture of who you are as you are trying to do, to all the Anti Big Gov opposition replies here, not trying to judge you, just your mirror tact just reflected you, "your own words" 
You should stick with the copy/paste method-less rambling. 2funny
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« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2010, 10:17:04 AM »



Wow, not sure if this is a serious inquiry, or just an opportunity for you to see your avatar posted again…

Mickey Rune’s questions and comments were directed at ME, not my friends or family.  I do not speak for them on this forum, only for myself.  When you say “we almost started taking you serious”, are you referring to you and the frog in your pocket?!   Roll Eyes

As a fiscal conservative, I have no desire to “share everyone’s wealth” as you put it, but I do share my own wealth of time and money with the March of Dimes and several veterans’ charities.  I’m not sure why you find this important or relevant to the discussion, but there ya go!   Cheesy


We are all on the general board, weather you are a fiscal conservative or not Jim, you sound foolish when you get fired up, some of us can see that by putting a twist on our reply it is entertaining at best, but like the Commander and Chief to much is destructive by the post i put regarding the amount of times O has been on Network TV, As far as your good deeds? how about some good ole pictures.....some of us don't read so well  coolsmiley   Grin  why is relevant to the discussion? we need a roll model to help us self centered people learn how to make our Country a better place, by what we can do as a individual's  not by force or enslaved in  Government laws that make us all Criminals,you fell for your own trap when you went on about yourself, it gives a picture of who you are as you are trying to do, to all the Anti Big Gov opposition replies here, not trying to judge you, just your mirror tact just reflected you, "your own words" 
You should stick with the copy/paste method-less rambling. 2funny
That's it?......go ahead your turn "hit and run"  coolsmiley
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« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2010, 11:51:29 AM »

« Reply #27 on: Today at 10:02:44 AM » Quote 

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Hey Al,
You forgot the principle that has kept this country great-SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
He also liked that "brown sugar" with his conservative coffee.
 
 
 
No Kidding,,,,,so why give the Muslim Countries this boost of self esteem.

They are a religion last I checked and Obaminator or Buck Wheat is for promoting that religion

our sworn enemy a leg up..

A religion is getting a leg up.

Wow selective memory is what I would call that.

Shake out your brain pan there pilgrim.

AL
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« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2010, 12:52:37 PM »

No Kidding,,,,,so why give the Muslim Countries this boost of self esteem.

They are a religion last I checked and Obaminator or Buck Wheat is for promoting that religion

our sworn enemy a leg up..

A religion is getting a leg up.

Wow selective memory is what I would call that.

Shake out your brain pan there pilgrim.

AL


If your reference to “Boost in self esteem” and “a leg up” is about NASA, I just checked the NASA website (http://www.nasa.gov/about/highlights/what_does_nasa_do.html) and did not find anything about promoting religion or enemy countries.
If it’s about something else, please clarify, since you weren’t specific.

You seem to state that Muslim countries are our sworn enemy.  What about Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Kuwait, to name only a few?  You might have confused a fight with a small group of radical religious extremists with a war on a religious group.
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« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2010, 01:12:42 PM »

Amazing when you stop and think about it................St. Charles, MO has at least one bridge outfitted with WI-FI.   Now that there is something.    Shocked

Arguing with short, wrinkley men that live under bridges is a complete waste of time.


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« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2010, 01:47:10 PM »

Cant help but think the the series "LOST IN SPACE" when i listen to what comes out of this Administration  Grin 
Krauthammer Bashes Obama's Infantile NASA Muslim Outreach Programpowered by Aeva
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« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2010, 02:15:07 PM »






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  There was no research, and that is why it was removed.

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well that is a big assumption on your part. where u there almighty one.
can u please provide proof that there is no research?
u will not because u don't want to see the truth, u just want to be a diseased liberal, who thinks he is really smart, above most people cause u have an office and a couple of degrees. u're probably a free thinker also.
I have met your kind and there is no hope discussing anything with u since u are actually very very close minded. the only thing that will wake u up so that u see the truth is when God finally knocks u down and it will not be pretty for u emotionally and physically. Then u will either turn to God and praise Him and His Son Jesus the Christ and ask for forgiveness which He will freely give or raise your fist and curse God and continue your life on the way to hell after u take your last breath.
this is your future and remember this for when it does happen, and it will happen.
God Bless you.

and by the way there are many research reports from the 50s and 60s, cornell medical is one of the authors. most homosexual activity is from a disconnect with the same sex parent when the child is one to five yrs old sometimes older for boys, this goes all the way back to sigmund's research.
how many fatherless families do we have today? if u really want to know research it and u will find out. Another added factor today is the soy protein given to babies which is like giving 20-30 birth control pills which almost completely surpresses testosterone allowing the male baby brain being bombarded with estrogen making the little boys brain more female like. again plenty of research out there and the FDA coverups of the soy dangers. prove me wrong.
God Bless and may u soon learn and accept the love of Jesus
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« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2010, 02:55:41 PM »

well that is a big assumption on your part. where u there almighty one.
can u please provide proof that there is no research?


You are asking me to prove a negative.

That’s similar to me asking you:  Can you prove that you’ve stopped beating your wife?

and by the way there are many research reports from the 50s and 60s, cornell medical is one of the authors. most homosexual activity is from a disconnect with the same sex parent when the child is one to five yrs old sometimes older for boys, this goes all the way back to sigmund's research.


I guess you mean Sigmund Freud.  Check out his 1935 letter to a woman asking advice:
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2009/10/homosexuality-is-nothing-to-be-ashamed.html

how many fatherless families do we have today? if u really want to know research it and u will find out. Another added factor today is the soy protein given to babies which is like giving 20-30 birth control pills which almost completely surpresses testosterone allowing the male baby brain being bombarded with estrogen making the little boys brain more female like. again plenty of research out there and the FDA coverups of the soy dangers. prove me wrong.


If you believe soy protein is “like giving 20-30 birth control pills”, you might want to examine the heavy use of soy products in Asia.  I believe they are not having problems getting pregnant, or have a higher rate of homosexuality than any other country.
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« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2010, 07:46:14 PM »


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If you believe soy protein is “like giving 20-30 birth control pills”, you might want to examine the heavy use of soy products in Asia.  I believe they are not having problems getting pregnant, or have a higher rate of homosexuality than any other country.
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u just spoke false truth put out by the soy growers who in the mid '90s got the FDA to re-classify it from an industrial product to a food product in the USA.
 asia only uses fermented soy products which are safe and highly healthful. if they use tofu which is considered by some only partially fermented, some say it is not fermented at all, it is only used as a condiment and always with other meat/fish protein. what is used in this country is raw soy which is a poison, for adult men it kills the cells in the family jewels that make testerone. can u say male brith control? and if a womans estrogen is too high they can't get pregnant or just have trouble. is this why fertility doctors and clinics are the big money making place to be right now?
another case of the people being poisoned, but just go to the doctor to get an antidote.
 go to www.mercola.com and search soy. learn the lies and the truth about soy.

u need to do some research, USAToday is just not cutting it for u.  Grin
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« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2010, 08:38:49 PM »

u just spoke false truth put out by the soy growers who in the mid '90s got the FDA to re-classify it from an industrial product to a food product in the USA.
 asia only uses fermented soy products which are safe and highly healthful. if they use tofu which is considered by some only partially fermented, some say it is not fermented at all, it is only used as a condiment and always with other meat/fish protein. what is used in this country is raw soy which is a poison, for adult men it kills the cells in the family jewels that make testerone. can u say male brith control? and if a womans estrogen is too high they can't get pregnant or just have trouble. is this why fertility doctors and clinics are the big money making place to be right now?
another case of the people being poisoned, but just go to the doctor to get an antidote.
 go to www.mercola.com and search soy. learn the lies and the truth about soy.

u need to do some research, USAToday is just not cutting it for u.  Grin


I have spent a lot of time in Southeast Asia, and their use of soy products is enormous.  They drink soymilk like Americans drink Coca-cola.  Soymilk is unfermented.  Raw dried soybeans are cooked in water, and then roasted.  They are then squeezed in a large press to extract the milk.  They eat a lot of unfermented tofu, both with and without meat or fish.  They also eat fermented tofu, usually called aged tofu.  They cook it in a large wok with peanut oil.  Smells like a barnyard on a hot, steamy day!

I suggest you put down the conspiracy theory magazines, and take a fresh breath of reality!
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« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2010, 09:22:52 PM »

You've been warned Bobbo, we should all be worried about Satan, Soy and shrinking penises.   I do have a question however, who did the measuring? Ted Haggard maybe?
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