|
..
|
 |
« on: July 06, 2010, 10:08:43 AM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
big turkey
Guest
|
 |
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2010, 12:21:35 PM » |
|
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
guess who said this??????????
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Michael K (Az.)
Member
Posts: 2471
"You have to admire a healthy tomatillo!"
Glendale, AZ
|
|
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2010, 01:11:22 PM » |
|
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
guess who said this??????????
I guess, lemme see here,, Nobody! What do I win Monty??? http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"I'd never join a club that would have me as a member!" G.Marx  |
|
|
|
fstsix
Guest
|
|
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2010, 01:29:36 PM » |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Charlie
Member
Posts: 322
It's not what you say you do that counts.....
Grand Rapids, MI
|
|
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 01:33:37 PM » |
|
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
guess who said this??????????
Someone appears to be attempting to defame someone else by quoting inflamatory statements that have little or no basis in the truth. As gramma used to say, "Vie vie on you!!!). |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
 States I have visited on my motorcycles Charlie #23695 |
|
|
|
RoadKill
|
|
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2010, 02:11:46 PM » |
|
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
guess who said this??????????
Someone appears to be attempting to defame someone else by quoting inflamatory statements that have little or no basis in the truth. As gramma used to say, "Vie vie on you!!!). He defames himself with no help needed. "I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go." --at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon "I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances." --after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 "UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems." –attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009 "In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed." --on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people "The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person... "It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." --explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters "Come on! I just answered, like, eight questions." --exasperated by reporters after a news conference "I think when you spread the wealth around it's good for everybody." |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
big turkey
Guest
|
|
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2010, 03:21:18 PM » |
|
Atta Boy Raodkill, you have a good memory and some have a selective memory.
BIG AL
Either Way this fellow is a bad american at the very least, a usurper at the very worst.
I choose the latter.
my opinion and I am entitled to it.
Never used his name in any of my posts and still people know who I am talking about.
That is called Infamy.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Bobbo
|
|
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2010, 04:26:36 PM » |
|
Com’on, RoadKill… It’s easy and cheap to dig up quotes and snippets from EVERY politician that ever made a speech or was recorded in any way.
The original complaint dealt with an INTENTIONAL misquote designed to rev-up the half-wits that thrive on internet propaganda.
That’s not to say that Big Al originated the quote.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Charlie
Member
Posts: 322
It's not what you say you do that counts.....
Grand Rapids, MI
|
|
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2010, 05:29:46 AM » |
|
Com’on, RoadKill… It’s easy and cheap to dig up quotes and snippets from EVERY politician that ever made a speech or was recorded in any way.
The original complaint dealt with an INTENTIONAL misquote designed to rev-up the half-wits that thrive on internet propaganda.
That’s not to say that Big Al originated the quote.
Perpetuating false information is as bad or worse than creating it. In both cases, nothing good comes from it. Perpetuating it attempts to validate it. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
States I have visited on my motorcycles Charlie #23695 |
|
|
|
fstsix
Guest
|
|
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2010, 05:42:27 AM » |
|
WASHINGTON -- During his first eight months in office, President Obama has sat down for three times as many television interviews as his most recent two predecessors combined. And with yesterday's run of the Sunday-morning news show circuit and tonight's airing of "Late Night with David Letterman," Obama continues to blaze through the media hotter than any political figure in modern history. "He's turning the presidency into an infomercial," warned former White House speechwriter Matt Latimer. "It's not just damaging to the White House. It will also ultimately hurt President Obama's image as a fresh, non-Washington leader." The media blitz has won Obama unprecedented wall-to-wall coverage in the mainstream media. In the New York Times alone, according to the Center for Media and Public Affairs at George Mason University, the number of stories on the Obama administration that have appeared on the front page through mid-August of this year totaled 119,678 column inches. That's 9,973 column feet of Obama coverage on the Times front page alone. But it is television that has been the most powerful draw for Obama. In his five major appearances yesterday, Obama voiced skepticism about adding troops to Afghanistan, denied making a deal with Russia over missile defenses in Europe, and continued to push his government-run health-insurance program. As of mid-August, Obama submitted to a total of 66 television interviews, dramatically outstripping his two predecessors, according to Martha Joynt Kumar, director of the White House Transition Project at Towson University in Maryland. During the same period of their own presidencies, President George W. Bush gave 16 television interviews and President Bill Clinton gave just six. Obama is also out-hustling his predecessors with the print media, giving 36 interviews with newspapers and magazines during his first seven months in office -- nearly doubling the numbers given by Bush and Clinton. churt@nypost.comRead more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/item_QNYXXyakSyHi8h306QRAKL#ixzz0t02qcyAX |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Charlie
Member
Posts: 322
It's not what you say you do that counts.....
Grand Rapids, MI
|
|
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2010, 12:39:40 PM » |
|
WASHINGTON -- During his first eight months in office, President Obama has sat down for three times as many television interviews as his most recent two predecessors combined. And with yesterday's run of the Sunday-morning news show circuit and tonight's airing of "Late Night with David Letterman," Obama continues to blaze through the media hotter than any political figure in modern history. "He's turning the presidency into an infomercial," warned former White House speechwriter Matt Latimer. "It's not just damaging to the White House. It will also ultimately hurt President Obama's image as a fresh, non-Washington leader." The media blitz has won Obama unprecedented wall-to-wall coverage in the mainstream media. In the New York Times alone, according to the Center for Media and Public Affairs at George Mason University, the number of stories on the Obama administration that have appeared on the front page through mid-August of this year totaled 119,678 column inches. That's 9,973 column feet of Obama coverage on the Times front page alone. But it is television that has been the most powerful draw for Obama. In his five major appearances yesterday, Obama voiced skepticism about adding troops to Afghanistan, denied making a deal with Russia over missile defenses in Europe, and continued to push his government-run health-insurance program. As of mid-August, Obama submitted to a total of 66 television interviews, dramatically outstripping his two predecessors, according to Martha Joynt Kumar, director of the White House Transition Project at Towson University in Maryland. During the same period of their own presidencies, President George W. Bush gave 16 television interviews and President Bill Clinton gave just six. Obama is also out-hustling his predecessors with the print media, giving 36 interviews with newspapers and magazines during his first seven months in office -- nearly doubling the numbers given by Bush and Clinton. churt@nypost.comRead more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/item_QNYXXyakSyHi8h306QRAKL#ixzz0t02qcyAXHow does this relate to the topic at hand? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
States I have visited on my motorcycles Charlie #23695 |
|
|
|
fstsix
Guest
|
|
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2010, 12:48:56 PM » |
|
WASHINGTON -- During his first eight months in office, President Obama has sat down for three times as many television interviews as his most recent two predecessors combined. And with yesterday's run of the Sunday-morning news show circuit and tonight's airing of "Late Night with David Letterman," Obama continues to blaze through the media hotter than any political figure in modern history. "He's turning the presidency into an infomercial," warned former White House speechwriter Matt Latimer. "It's not just damaging to the White House. It will also ultimately hurt President Obama's image as a fresh, non-Washington leader." The media blitz has won Obama unprecedented wall-to-wall coverage in the mainstream media. In the New York Times alone, according to the Center for Media and Public Affairs at George Mason University, the number of stories on the Obama administration that have appeared on the front page through mid-August of this year totaled 119,678 column inches. That's 9,973 column feet of Obama coverage on the Times front page alone. But it is television that has been the most powerful draw for Obama. In his five major appearances yesterday, Obama voiced skepticism about adding troops to Afghanistan, denied making a deal with Russia over missile defenses in Europe, and continued to push his government-run health-insurance program. As of mid-August, Obama submitted to a total of 66 television interviews, dramatically outstripping his two predecessors, according to Martha Joynt Kumar, director of the White House Transition Project at Towson University in Maryland. During the same period of their own presidencies, President George W. Bush gave 16 television interviews and President Bill Clinton gave just six. Obama is also out-hustling his predecessors with the print media, giving 36 interviews with newspapers and magazines during his first seven months in office -- nearly doubling the numbers given by Bush and Clinton. churt@nypost.comRead more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/item_QNYXXyakSyHi8h306QRAKL#ixzz0t02qcyAXHow does this relate to the topic at hand? Sorry Charlie as Al stated, some have selected memory, with as much as O has talked i certainly see how not everybody can remember what and when and why he said what?...one thing is for sure....I never new how much i liked Clinton, he knew when to shut up! |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
RoadKill
|
|
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2010, 04:18:26 PM » |
|
Com’on, RoadKill… It’s easy and cheap to dig up quotes and snippets from EVERY politician that ever made a speech or was recorded in any way.
The original complaint dealt with an INTENTIONAL misquote designed to rev-up the half-wits that thrive on internet propaganda.
That’s not to say that Big Al originated the quote.
Perpetuating false information is as bad or worse than creating it. In both cases, nothing good comes from it. Perpetuating it attempts to validate it. I gather that you are both trying to make the point that BigAl intentionally passed on information that he knew to be erroneous. Is that a fair assumption? I checked Snopes to see for my self if he had , I found nothing...they neither confirm or deny either claim. Would either of you Geniuses care to provide something to back up your claim ? It was pointed out ,in public AND with out presumption of intent, that the Quote he referenced was false and yet some of us here felt the need to continue rubbing salt in the wound ( as mature adults tend to do  ) so I responded with irrefutable,fact checked quotes and was met by responses like "cheap and easy" "INTENTIONAL misquote" and "In both cases, nothing good comes from it" . So I am just wondering who is here just to argue for arguments sake this time? AND while you guys are pointing out every ones "intentions" I was wondering if you could come up with some for me befor I have to plead the 5th amendment in court about them!!  And while you are at it gimme my opinion too  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Michael K (Az.)
Member
Posts: 2471
"You have to admire a healthy tomatillo!"
Glendale, AZ
|
|
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2010, 07:13:00 PM » |
|
Dont recall sayin anything nasty.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"I'd never join a club that would have me as a member!" G.Marx |
|
|
|
Bobbo
|
|
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2010, 09:03:25 PM » |
|
I gather that you are both trying to make the point that BigAl intentionally passed on information that he knew to be erroneous. Is that a fair assumption? I checked Snopes to see for my self if he had , I found nothing...they neither confirm or deny either claim. Would either of you Geniuses care to provide something to back up your claim ? It was pointed out ,in public AND with out presumption of intent, that the Quote he referenced was false I made no comment about BIG AL’s intentions for posting the misquote, only that it was a misquote. The origins of the misquote were obvious, so I commented on that. Here are three links I found by Googling “stand with the Muslims” in less than a minute. http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.htmlhttp://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asphttp://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-books.htmEach one shows the actual quote, which explains Obama’s stance to stand up for the rights of American citizens when public opinion wants to remove their rights. and yet some of us here felt the need to continue rubbing salt in the wound ( as mature adults tend to do ) so I responded with irrefutable,fact checked quotes and was met by responses like "cheap and easy" "INTENTIONAL misquote" and "In both cases, nothing good comes from it" . So I am just wondering who is here just to argue for arguments sake this time? AND while you guys are pointing out every ones "intentions" I was wondering if you could come up with some for me befor I have to plead the 5th amendment in court about them!! And while you are at it gimme my opinion too Finding stupid remarks or political differences is easy to do for any politician. It’s almost a moot point to post them. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
RoadKill
|
|
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2010, 11:08:21 PM » |
|
Com’on, RoadKill… It’s easy and cheap to dig up quotes and snippets from EVERY politician that ever made a speech or was recorded in any way.
The original complaint dealt with an INTENTIONAL misquote designed to rev-up the half-wits that thrive on internet propaganda.
That’s not to say that Big Al originated the quote.
AGAIN..."The original complaint dealt with an INTENTIONAL misquote designed to rev-up the half-wits that thrive on internet propaganda." author=Bobbo link=topic=18118.msg154182#msg154182 date=1278458796] "I made no comment about BIG AL’s intentions for posting the misquote, only that it was a misquote." Mr BOBBO Biden, Dont speak when the microphone is still on...it's embarrassing ! |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
RoadKill
|
|
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2010, 11:29:30 PM » |
|
Dont recall sayin anything nasty.
You ,Sir, Did NOT ! You made a point,with out any derogatory inference about the intent of the original poster, and I believe your correction was done VERY tastefully. I hope you will extend the same tasteful and non assumptive correction to myself as the occasion may rise. Because I would never be arrogant enough to say I was not as human as and open to mistakes as the rest.  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Bobbo
|
|
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2010, 07:15:26 AM » |
|
Com’on, RoadKill… It’s easy and cheap to dig up quotes and snippets from EVERY politician that ever made a speech or was recorded in any way.
The original complaint dealt with an INTENTIONAL misquote designed to rev-up the half-wits that thrive on internet propaganda.
That’s not to say that Big Al originated the quote.
AGAIN..."The original complaint dealt with an INTENTIONAL misquote designed to rev-up the half-wits that thrive on internet propaganda." author=Bobbo link=topic=18118.msg154182#msg154182 date=1278458796] "I made no comment about BIG AL’s intentions for posting the misquote, only that it was a misquote." Mr BOBBO Biden, Dont speak when the microphone is still on...it's embarrassing ! I will attempt to help you with your comprehension problem. The originator (person who created it) INTENTIONALLY (on purpose) misquoted Obama’s writings. The misquote is used on conservative websites and emails to excite people who don’t research propaganda, and simply believe what they read. The originator is NOT Big Al.I’m not sure if I can make this any clearer, so I will leave it at that. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
