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« on: July 19, 2010, 06:30:56 PM » |
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Is this similar to a CV joint grease?
Give me all the particulars and where I can get it...
What a PITA
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X Ring
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2010, 07:21:50 PM » |
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What do you need it for Big Rig?
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2010, 04:05:28 AM » |
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Rear Drive Splines...
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2010, 04:22:10 AM » |
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There are many ideas on this as there are Valks. Iirc, Daniel Meyer uses Bel Ray Waterproof Grease, which doesn't have moly in it. ChrisJ357 uses Lucas X-tra Heavy Duty Grease which doesn't list moly as an ingredient. I think Punisher is mixing TS-70 with Bel Ray. I am using Valvoline Syn Power Full Synthetic Disc Brake Wheel Bearing Grease which contains moly. The Valvoline I use and the Lucas Chris J uses both meet the NGLI standard. I believe it doesn't matter what grease you use as long as you use a high quality one and perform the maintenance as required. In a recent thread, Daniel Meyer said performing the maintenance and putting things back together IN THE CORRECT ORDER are the keys to final drive/wheel flange longevity, i.e. torque the axle nut BEFORE you tighten the final drive unit's four nuts that secure it to the swingarm. This will insure the final drive and wheel flange are correctly aligned.
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2010, 04:27:22 AM » |
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You can get excellent moly grease from Guard Dog. Look it up on the internet. They are in Texas. I use it on my Valk and am very pleased with its performance. From what I've read, a high moly content will go a long way to preserving your splines. It's not cheap, but the small amount you use will last you for as long as you own the bike.
Happy riding.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2010, 04:31:40 AM » |
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In addition, make sure you replace all three o rings. Coat them with grease and put grease in the grooves. Punisher and I were discussing this the other day and he said he believes people not doing this are causing the o rings to stick and tear letting in water that flushes out the grease and causes rust to form.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2010, 09:56:02 AM » |
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Moly is a high pressure lubricant and may not be entirely necessary for that application.
With that said I use it (moly fortified grease) for everything.
I find it at the local auto store, just check the labels and look at the price tags, as moly grease is usually more expensive than just plain grease.
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2010, 10:20:23 AM » |
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Moly is a high pressure lubricant and may not be entirely necessary for that application.
With that said I use it (moly fortified grease) for everything.
I find it at the local auto store, just check the labels and look at the price tags, as moly grease is usually more expensive than just plain grease.
Honda specifies a spline paste which is 60% molybdenum disulfide ("moly"). http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Shaft.html |
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2010, 10:44:18 AM » |
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Then how do you explain those who use Bel Ray, which contains 0% moly, not having any problems.
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2010, 04:44:12 PM » |
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Then how do you explain those who use Bel Ray, which contains 0% moly, not having any problems.
Marty
Moly is only the additive in the grease that modifies the grease to give it different abilities. Where cv joints and Guard Dog and Red Line greases use moly Bel ray uses aluminum. Also most use a lithium base where Bel ray uses some hydrocarbon base/oil. |
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2010, 05:20:08 PM » |
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Moly/Lythium??
Still looking....
Looks like I have to replace my front axle, mine has some corrosion on it...only where the it goes into the fork on the large side. Do you guys use any grease on your axles?
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2010, 05:26:34 PM » |
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Yes. The same grease I use on the splines and driveshaft. Depending on how bad the corrosion is, you can use some 0000 steel wool to clean it. Do you have a shop manual? If not there are several on ebay, you can order one from Honda and you can download a scanned version from Dag's website, http://valkyrienorway.com/. Also go to ShopTalk and download Kulow's Maintenance Guide. Marty |
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2010, 06:25:18 PM » |
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Is Moly/Lythium acceptabel to use on the splines?
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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2010, 07:02:55 PM » |
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Is Moly/Lythium acceptabel to use on the splines?
somebody make a sticky or FAQ with this info service manual 1997-2001 final drive splines, thrust washer, wheel hub to final driven flange mating surface, and O-rings - moly paste more than 40%, NLGI #2. ex: molykote G-n paste Dow corning, Honda moly 60, Rocol ASP by rocol limited , UK universal joint - multi-purpose grease, lithium base NLGI #2 pinion joint spline (end of drive shaft into final drive)- moly grease more than 3% moly, NLGI #2, ex: molykote BR-2 plus by Dow corning |
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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2010, 07:24:14 PM » |
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OK,
I know all of this, I am just having a difficult time locating it.
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« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2010, 07:42:39 PM » |
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OK,
I know all of this, I am just having a difficult time locating it.
I'm in blackwood and I didn't find anything local, reason I ordered TS Moly. U can bring your wheel and drive shaft over, I have 1 lb containers of both. PM me. |
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Big Rig
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2010, 06:50:00 AM » |
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Thanks CA,
I ordered some last night...should be here Friday.
Hope you are well, any news on Andy? Not seen much from him lately.
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