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I'm out on a trip accross the country, and currently I'm at a KOA at Devils Tower. My 99 I/S with 18,600 mi. has devoleped a slow speed handling problem. It has become worse over the last 3-4 hundred miles, when I slow down to stop it's all over the place and forget driving it in gravel. I have a Michelin hydroedge on the back with the same 35psi I have had in it for the last 4k miles. and a Avon venim on the front w/42psi. I have checked every thing I can think of. Would a loose steering head cause this and can I tightin it with out a special tool? I brought basic tools with me, so I could get the handle bars off and the nut.
Thanks
Dean...
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2010, 03:56:25 PM » |
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more likely a bad left rear wheel bearing.......check the tire real good too........maybe a delamination?
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GJS
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2010, 04:00:05 PM » |
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Also, check the pinch bolts on your forks. Make sure they are tight.
Let us know what it turns out to be.
Good luck.
Glenn
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NEHI
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2010, 04:17:03 PM » |
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I have checked all the pinch bolts and frame bolts, wouldn't a rear bearing that was worn enough to cause handling problems make noise? This is not a small handling issue, it's becoming almost unrideable
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2010, 04:38:09 PM » |
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i HAD THE SAME PROBLEM, i CHANGED MY STEERING BEARINGS AND THE PROBLEM WENT AWAY.
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Red Diamond
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2010, 04:48:53 PM » |
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Also, you can check the swing arm bearing nuts, if they are loose the rear will waver from side to side. Good luck on finding the problem and enjoy your trip.
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Daniel Meyer
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2010, 05:00:15 PM » |
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I would examine the tires VERY closely...3-400 miles is very fast for something else to go wrong with handling.
Low speed wobble is usually tires, shock bushings, too tight/indexed head bearings or swing arm.
Steering head bearings seem likely if the tires are good...not going to be readily servicable on the road...and given the symptoms if it is them they need replaced, not retorqued.
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2010, 05:06:35 PM » |
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I'll agree with Daniel, 18K miles, can't be anything else.
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2010, 05:45:46 PM » |
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my guess is tire .... or tires .. good luck i hate to hear this stuff on 18 thousand miles on it .. tires.. again .. front tire to boot ..
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2010, 07:57:17 PM » |
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You are not going to index the bearings and not know you did it!
Look elsewhere!
If you have done work to the steering head, then that would be reason to suspect that may be the problem. Improper assembly!
You can grab the tire at the rear and shake violently side to side. There should be absolutely no looseness! Have your buddy hold the bike upright when you do this.
Do the same for the front.
That much wobble should surely be detectable in the bike.
The tires, mainly the rear would have to be almost flat to cause a wobble like you describe.
If your bike is loaded down, insure the load is securely strapped and not allowed to move side to side.
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NEHI
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2010, 08:59:09 PM » |
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First thanks for all the input. I pulled the faring off and the top tree and the lock nut was so loose I unscrewed with my fingers and the nut was not much tighter. So I thightened it as good as I could using the hammer and screwdriver trick. I will see how It feels when I get back on the road tomorrow. I will find a Honda shop and see if I can get new Bearings.
Also I have a web site up for this trip TWOLANEMYWAY.COM check it out, and thanks again for the help.
Dean..
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2010, 06:42:48 AM » |
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Godspeed! Have a blast!!
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2013, 06:34:43 AM » |
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NEHI, what was the outcome on this problem? I ask because I am a new Valkyrie owner, a 98 Tourer, and have a problem also. I bought the bike with 24,000 miles on it. The bike handles as yours at low speed and is also unstable in the curves. Made the trip less than a pleasure. I'll borrow a jack and check the swing arm bearings but figured I'd ask you first.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2013, 09:40:37 AM » |
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If it continues after tightening the head bearing, it's probably the front tire.
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2013, 09:51:04 AM » |
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First thanks for all the input. I pulled the faring off and the top tree and the lock nut was so loose I unscrewed with my fingers and the nut was not much tighter. So I thightened it as good as I could using the hammer and screwdriver trick. I will see how It feels when I get back on the road tomorrow. I will find a Honda shop and see if I can get new Bearings.
Also I have a web site up for this trip TWOLANEMYWAY.COM check it out, and thanks again for the help.
Dean..
The Valk is very picky about torque on these bearings. Replace them and follow the torquing procedure in the manual and she'll handle like new. |
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« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2013, 05:23:05 PM » |
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Nobody mentioned the word "Venom". That's an old tire. Hasn't been made in a few years. It might be delaminating internally. As others said, check that front tire and get a new one soon. You don't want a front tire collapse.
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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2013, 06:28:19 PM » |
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Thanks for the replies. On the highway, from takeoff to about 40mph the bike wanders badly. A loose gravel road or gravel parking lot at a walking speed is a trial, the bike has no stability. I can still feel the bike wandering at speeds higher than 40, just not as bad. Leaning into a curve at higher speed, the bike seems to wallow and want to change directions. not a good feeling.
I have a Clymer manual(I know,but it came with the bike) and been doing some reading about steering head adjustment, As recommended, I'll check out the bearings and preload.
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« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2013, 06:30:43 PM » |
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Thanks for the replies. From takeoff to about 40mph the bike wanders badly. A loose gravel road or parking lot is a trial, the bike has no stability. I can still feel the bike wandering at speeds higher than 40, just not as bad. Leaning into a curve at higher speed, the bike seems to wallow and want to change directions. not a good feeling.
I have a Clymer manual(I know,but it came with the bike) and been doing some reading about steering head adjustment, As recommended, I'll check out the bearings and preload.
I still betting on tires. |
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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2013, 08:06:25 PM » |
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Nobody mentioned the word "Venom". That's an old tire. Hasn't been made in a few years. It might be delaminating internally. As others said, check that front tire and get a new one soon. You don't want a front tire collapse.
Man, a Venom is a really old tire. Look at the date stamp on the side wall of the tire. 2 digits are the week of the year and the other is the year of manufacture. http://blog.tirerack.com/blog/hunters-ramblings/how-old-are-the-tires-i-buyI personally would replace it if it was produced before 2010. Others will have different opinions I am sure, but tires are the most important parts of any motorcycle. YMMV. Hay  Jimmyt |
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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2013, 09:20:09 PM » |
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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2013, 09:04:52 AM » |
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Just to avoid confusion.............The 99 I/S venom part of this thread is from 2010.
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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2013, 10:34:22 AM » |
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Wow, some one kicked up a super old thread. Super old.
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