Mosque in New York , This is all I will Say about This Period.

[big turkey]

When the Nukes from Iran are whizzing Over head and Israel is blown from the map.

You think we will wake up then.

Try to see the light.

Or Just say well it's God's Will and we should not fight back.

Just a thought.

Iran will attack with Nukes within 5 years.

"If you can put a mouse into space, they can put a nuke into New York". Iranian Quote

Russia will help them, write it down so you don't forget this post.

Of course then it won't really matter.

Truly Dangerous times and we have Nancy, Harry and Obama to look out for us.


WOW

Where is Dick Cheny when we need him.

Big AL

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[FLAVALK]

Charles Krauthammer is probably one of the most brilliant political analysts of our time. This administration would be wise to consider his council...but then, their arrogance would never allow that.

[f6john]

      Only problem with your post Al is that you used Fox News as your source. That's like waving a red flag in front of a bull.  Look out here comes ....

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[big turkey]

Well the truth will stand when the world is on fire, it really does not matter where that

truth comes from. Truth is truth.

When the nukes are flying,,,,,,,, it won't matter who reports it.

They still go BOOM.

Big AL

[Sludge]

Charles Krauthammer is probably one of the most brilliant political analysts of our time. This administration would be wise to consider his council...but then, their arrogance would never allow that.

Well said!

[MP]

Charles Krauthammer is probably one of the most brilliant political analysts of our time. This administration would be wise to consider his council...but then, their arrogance would never allow that.

Well said!

Best in the business.

MP

[Hoser]

Unfortunetly, Big Al, what you say rings true.  hoser

[fuzzy2bucks]

Yep!  When the Iranians or radical muslims come at us with dirty bombs and nukes it will make Pearl Harbor look like a picnic.

[Gear Jammer]

I got your back Big Al .  I can hardly wait for the "other side" to opine with their usual rancor and name calling.       Here they come,,,,,,,      

[czuch]

Not just yet though,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Remember, Yamamoto said all they had accomplished was to awaken a sleeping giant.
When we've had enough, and the adults are back in charge, the press wont be in there and the boys will get the job done as they have in times past. Just be ready.

[fuzzy2bucks]

Yamamoto said he would not attack the U.S. mainland with troops because almost all citizens of the U.S. had guns or weapons of some sort.

[Bobbo]

Yamamoto said he would not attack the U.S. mainland with troops because almost all citizens of the U.S. had guns or weapons of some sort.

Please read the part titled "Historical Humbug"

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/gun-control-in-australia/

[f6john]

Yamamoto said he would not attack the U.S. mainland with troops because almost all citizens of the U.S. had guns or weapons of some sort.

Please read the part titled "Historical Humbug"

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/gun-control-in-australia/

   


    Well, after having read that, I know I'll sleep better tonight knowing that Yamamoto never said any such thing!!! I also will not post online that the sun is shining until I run it past factcheck.

[RP#62]

I wouldn't put too much stock in FactCheck.org.  Its like the left's version of Fox news.  The Annenberg Public Policy Center, the sponsoring agency behind FastCheck.org, is supported by the Annenberg  Foundation.  That's the one that Bill Ayers secured 49 million dollars from to create the Chicago Annenberg Challenge “philanthropic” organization in which Barack Obama was the founding Chairman of the Board.  Ayers served as the grant writer and co-Chair for its two operating arms.  Yeah, they're not biased.

[Bobbo]

I wouldn't put too much stock in FactCheck.org.  Its like the left's version of Fox news.  The Annenberg Public Policy Center, the sponsoring agency behind FastCheck.org, is supported by the Annenberg  Foundation.  That's the one that Bill Ayers secured 49 million dollars from to create the Chicago Annenberg Challenge “philanthropic” organization in which Barack Obama was the founding Chairman of the Board.  Ayers served as the grant writer and co-Chair for its two operating arms.  Yeah, they're not biased.

Well, let’s examine this from a different perspective.  The tiny island of Japan had limited military resources during WWII.  They wanted control of the Pacific Rim to increase those resources and dominate the area.  What purpose, military or otherwise, would be served by attacking the US mainland?  We weren’t even on their scope during that campaign.   They were hesitant to attack Pearl Harbor because they specifically didn’t want US involvement in their conquests.  To attack the US mainland would be meaningless, and quite frankly, suicide.

If you want to believe that every news source other than Fox, or one of the talking radio heads, is a vast left wing liberal conspiracy, that’s fine.  I like to apply common sense to any news item in addition to what I’m told.

[alph]

Yep!  When the Iranians or radical muslims come at us with dirty bombs and nukes it will make Pearl Harbor look like a picnic.

as though crashing four airplanes in one day wasn't a big enough attack.  more people died on 9-11 then did in pearl harbor. 

[MP]

Post removed.  Please refrain from making personal attacks.

WOW!  This from a man(?) who, by his own admission, never makes personal attacks!

You say they have the right to build a church there.  I agree.  However, Big Al, myself, and the other bigoted minority of 70% of the population of the US, also have the constitutional right of free speech to disagree with that move.

Why do you disavow OUR right of free speech? If you truly believed what you posted above, you would disagree with 70% of the population, but would fight with the same venom used here to protect OUR RIGHT to disagree with you!  But NO!  You sir, are what you claim we are!

I wonder how many names I will be called now?

MP

[big turkey]

Here it is.

Israeli delivery system.

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[big turkey]

Iranian Delivery system.

What else do we need to know about the coming War in the MiddleEast.

Really simple.

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[valkmc]

Why doesn't NYC, make plans to build a road through the property and condemn it under eminent domain. Local gov. do it all over this country for public good and take private property for all sorts of reasons.

[big turkey]

Strong Eagle spoke too soon, I never, in any way said, purported to say, eluded too or

in masterful disguise said they should not build a Mosque at that advertised location.

And to have groundbreaking on 9-11-2011, is that a statement of hate or not?

Big AL

[JimL]

I piss on you, sir... because as a "patriot" you don't have enough common sense to understand that American freedoms require that this get built... obnoxious or not.

SE even though I rarely agree with your ideological stand on the issues I never denigrate your intellect, because even though we disagree on many issues; I do recognize that you are a reasonably intelligent man.  The statement that "American freedoms require that this get built" is an affront to that assumption.  American freedoms no more require the building of that mosque any more than our second amendment rights require someone to own a gun.  In both cases our American freedoms require that we "have the right to do so" should we choose to do so.

I have heard NO ONE dispute the fact that the Imam has the right to build the mosque on that property.  The only push back is that the vast majority of the people consider it insensitive because of it's location.  Quite frankly I give you more credit than to suggest that you are fooled by this "straw man" argument, however the fact that the left has demagogued this issue over the past couple of weeks is a classic example of how the power brokers on BOTH ends of the political spectrum take advantage of the "more impressionable" in our society to promote their vitriolic message.  

I fail to see why you promote this ignorance when I know that you know better.

[RP#62]

I wouldn't put too much stock in FactCheck.org.  Its like the left's version of Fox news.  The Annenberg Public Policy Center, the sponsoring agency behind FastCheck.org, is supported by the Annenberg  Foundation.  That's the one that Bill Ayers secured 49 million dollars from to create the Chicago Annenberg Challenge “philanthropic” organization in which Barack Obama was the founding Chairman of the Board.  Ayers served as the grant writer and co-Chair for its two operating arms.  Yeah, they're not biased.

Well, let’s examine this from a different perspective.  The tiny island of Japan had limited military resources during WWII.  They wanted control of the Pacific Rim to increase those resources and dominate the area.  What purpose, military or otherwise, would be served by attacking the US mainland?  We weren’t even on their scope during that campaign.   They were hesitant to attack Pearl Harbor because they specifically didn’t want US involvement in their conquests.  To attack the US mainland would be meaningless, and quite frankly, suicide.

If you want to believe that every news source other than Fox, or one of the talking radio heads, is a vast left wing liberal conspiracy, that’s fine.  I like to apply common sense to any news item in addition to what I’m told.

I'm to the point where I don't believe any news source, they all have agendas.  I just couldn't help but notice that anytime Fox is quoted as a source, there is virtual eye rolling by our liberal brothers and the information is immediately dismissed because of the source not the veracity.  I was just returning the favor.

[Jeff K]

I wouldn't put too much stock in FactCheck.org.  Its like the left's version of Fox news.  The Annenberg Public Policy Center, the sponsoring agency behind FastCheck.org, is supported by the Annenberg  Foundation.  That's the one that Bill Ayers secured 49 million dollars from to create the Chicago Annenberg Challenge “philanthropic” organization in which Barack Obama was the founding Chairman of the Board.  Ayers served as the grant writer and co-Chair for its two operating arms.  Yeah, they're not biased.

Well, let’s examine this from a different perspective.  The tiny island of Japan had limited military resources during WWII.  They wanted control of the Pacific Rim to increase those resources and dominate the area.  What purpose, military or otherwise, would be served by attacking the US mainland?  We weren’t even on their scope during that campaign.   They were hesitant to attack Pearl Harbor because they specifically didn’t want US involvement in their conquests.  To attack the US mainland would be meaningless, and quite frankly, suicide.

If you want to believe that every news source other than Fox, or one of the talking radio heads, is a vast left wing liberal conspiracy, that’s fine.  I like to apply common sense to any news item in addition to what I’m told.

I'm to the point where I don't believe any news source, they all have agendas.  I just couldn't help but notice that anytime Fox is quoted as a source, there is virtual eye rolling by our liberal brothers and the information is immediately dismissed because of the source not the veracity.  I was just returning the favor.

You could always go to the Huffington Post, they are very fair and balanced. 
I go there all the time, its like the National Enquirer, and the comments from the tolerant progressives are the most vile, hateful and false things you've seen in print. It's fun to get them rolling. Just mention Sarah Palin and they all go bonkers! Every thread has some comment about Palin no matter what the subject is .

[fstsix]

The mainstream media are Scumbags, Here is how you can help save this country against the real Enemy....http://www.mrcaction.org/554/petition.asp?Ref_ID=3820&CID=554&RID=24884300

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-oped-0822-chapman-column-20100820,0,1147455.column

[big turkey]

Well they may build it.

Really is stirring up a fuss.

And that is what they want.

Oughta just ignore the stupid idiots and leave them alone to kill each other.

If it weren't for oil they would still be livin in tents and herding goats.

Oh for the good ole days.

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[big turkey]

Oh and one more thing, A big PEE PEE on you (Edit - personal abuse removed).

Big Al

Here is one I like.

I thought she was gonna move out of the country if George Bush got elected, oh well a Liberal Lied.

How odd.

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[fstsix]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-oped-0822-chapman-column-20100820,0,1147455.column

Good article Maybe this is why the Greek orthodox Church is stuck in the planning dept. Not to mention the special treatment from the Grand Community organizer Barry O pushing for the Muslims and no mention of the Greek Church ?   

[3fan4life]

The idea of a mosque at ground zero (actually near not "on") is so disgusting to most Americans that any politician who openly supports the idea is committing political suicide.

Like one said:  

Just because they have the right to build it doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do.

If the builders intent really is as they stated, "to promote peace and better understanding" then they should realize that anywhere near ground zero is not the proper thing to do.


Besides, if my understanding is correct, isn't a non-muslim forbidden to enter a mosque?

If this is correct then how will its being there promote peace and understanding anyway?  

[elraque]

You say they have the right to build a church there.  I agree.  However, Big Al, myself, and the other bigoted minority of 70% of the population of the US, also have the constitutional right of free speech to disagree with that move.

Why do you disavow OUR right of free speech? If you truly believed what you posted above, you would disagree with 70% of the population, but would fight with the same venom used here to protect OUR RIGHT to disagree with you!  But NO!  You sir, are what you claim we are!

I wonder how many names I will be called now?

MP

I'll start the namecalling: "PATRIOT! "STRICT CONSTITUTIONALIST!" "AMERICAN!"

There, take that!

[vanagon40]

Got to love it when the poster claims in the post title: "This is all I will Say about This Period."

And then proceeds to post six more times in that thread AND starts a new thread on the same subject.

 

[Bobbo]

Besides, if my understanding is correct, isn't a non-muslim forbidden to enter a mosque?

If this is correct then how will its being there promote peace and understanding anyway?  

This might aamswer your question.

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503543870&pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE

[Bobbo]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-oped-0822-chapman-column-20100820,0,1147455.column

Good article Maybe this is why the Greek orthodox Church is stuck in the planning dept. Not to mention the special treatment from the Grand Community organizer Barry O pushing for the Muslims and no mention of the Greek Church ?  

From what I gather, the Greek Church officials were close to getting approval from the Port Authority, but then made more demands which stalled the process.  That might’ve PO’ed the Port Authority, and they are now dragging their feet.

I’m guessing our President made a statement in support of the Constitutional right of non-interference from the federal government since there would be a huge outcry and protest for this Mosque.  I doubt there would be any protest in building a new Church 100 feet from where the original stood.

[Charlie]

Yamamoto said he would not attack the U.S. mainland with troops because almost all citizens of the U.S. had guns or weapons of some sort.

Please read the part titled "Historical Humbug"

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/gun-control-in-australia/

   


    Well, after having read that, I know I'll sleep better tonight knowing that Yamamoto never said any such thing!!! I also will not post online that the sun is shining until I run it past factcheck.

That is just the dumbest thing I have read in a loooonnnnggg time.  I am not in favor of gun control, but when someone has clearly done a considerable amount of research on a subject, there should be some credence attached.

[Oss]

I must have lost my invitation to visit the Mosque in Medina and Mecca or maybe the post office lost it,

If I ever was in Iran and wanted to visit a Mosque that would be my last day on earth. I think I will stay here in the USA and pray wherever I want and that includes on my Valkyrie as I behold the glory created right here.

There is nothing like the unanticipated smell of the cool water that you cant even see yet as you ride along a country road, or the majesty of a rainbow that suddenly appears after or during the rainstorm you are riding through or the view of a tornado that is going the other way or a million other miracles we see each day if we try.

Yes I admit that I pray thanks on my Valkyrie often and I even pray for my brother and sister riders to come home safely, even those I disagree with

But back to the subject at hand, if it is Convenient for a Mullah to allow an infidel who is unclean to enter for whatever brief visit, he will do what he wants and that is the bottom line

Here is the truth. Moslem kids in the mideast are taught I am the devil and must die. They see cartoons that are disgusting where folks of my religion are butchered and are encouraged to do so.  Our tax dollars help these people. Think on that one my friends

If its a rebuild no harm no foul, if its something else, maybe nobody should have a big monument there (I am referring to the area which is ground zero) and it should be a nonsectarian place but where everyone can pray if they want.  

That way the government is not for or against anyone and all can pray in their own way if they feel the need

YMMV

[f6john]

Yamamoto said he would not attack the U.S. mainland with troops because almost all citizens of the U.S. had guns or weapons of some sort.

Please read the part titled "Historical Humbug"

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/gun-control-in-australia/


    

   


    Well, after having read that, I know I'll sleep better tonight knowing that Yamamoto never said any such thing!!! I also will not post online that the sun is shining until I run it past factcheck.

That is just the dumbest thing I have read in a loooonnnnggg time.  I am not in favor of gun control, but when someone has clearly done a considerable amount of research on a subject, there should be some credence attached.

     Did you read the part about gun control or the part about Yamamoto or both? At any rate how do you quantify the amount of research done by these people? The person states he was not able to find a written record, does not mean it doesn't exist or that it was never said. Personally I don't care if it was said or not but I find it humorous that so many people point to a website to back up their claims as if to say this is the final word on a subject.
     Anyhow just keep reading, and you'll get to learn mooooooore dumb stuff .

[G-Man]

Post removed.  Please refrain from making personal attacks.

Dear Board Admins,

Please, Carl, Scott, or To Whom it May Concern,    I ask very politely and with much respect that you remove this person from our board.  He has admitted several times that he does in fact attack others and his posts prove this.   I refrain from entering into threads that he is involved in, as well as do others, but this is unfair to us.  I enjoy the discussions and debates on many topics, yet I must keep myself out of them for fear of his personal attacks.  I feel that I am the one being punished, or silenced, due to his aggression and believe that an end must come to this.

Thank you for you kind consideration,
Gary

[3fan4life]

This might aamswer your question.

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503543870&pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE

After reading the link it would seem that whether a non-muslim may enter a mosque or not is more or less on a case by case basis.

And BTW: the link was interesting.

[3fan4life]

Post removed.  Please refrain from making personal attacks.

Dear Board Admins,

Please, Carl, Scott, or To Whom it May Concern,    I ask very politely and with much respect that you remove this person from our board.  He has admitted several times that he does in fact attack others and his posts prove this.   I refrain from entering into threads that he is involved in, as well as do others, but this is unfair to us.  I enjoy the discussions and debates on many topics, yet I must keep myself out of them for fear of his personal attacks.  I feel that I am the one being punished, or silenced, due to his aggression and believe that an end must come to this.

Thank you for you kind consideration,
Gary

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