Why I Carry a Gun

[Serk]

Tundra, I'm not Farther, but I'll give my reasons...

In _MY_ hands, I've never shot a more inaccurate, unreliable gun than a Glock.

I've been saying that for years, I've had numerous friends tell me I'm full of it and to try theirs... In all my years of trying various Glocks, I have managed to go through an entire magazine without at least one failure ONE time. (And that same gun had a FTF on the next magazine)

And when they do function, I hate the grip angle, it's very unnatural for me, and throws my aim way off. I have to consciously aim with it, whereas with the 1911 style grip angle, it's "Point and Click". And yes, it is at least partially just what you're used to.

Please note, I'm not saying Glocks are unreliable and inaccurate. I'm saying they're unreliable and inaccurate in MY hands. And yes, I've been told I'm limp wristing it, I've been told I'm holding 'em too firmly, and all points in between, but at this point, I simply would never be willing to trust my life to a Glock.

One other thing, of all the people who I know that have had unintentional discharges (Scary that I know more than one of those, eh?) they've ALL been with Glocks. None were directly the gun's fault, of course, but I really REALLY like the additional grip safety that the XD's have over the Glocks.

My Springfield Armory XD's however, have never failed for me, and I was able to hit a small ornamental vase at 30 yards with a single shot from my XD Sub Compact .40 S&W.

One final disclaimer - Not trying to turn this into a "My gun can beat up your gun" thread. Whatever YOU are comfortable with, whatever YOU are proficient with, whatever functions well in YOUR hands, that YOU can aim well and hit what you're meaning to hit with is what YOU should be carrying, just 'splaining the reasons why that is NOT a Glock for me...

[BF]

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.   

[Devl]

I'm with F6Gal...CUZ I CAN...and will defend myself and my loved ones from anyone causing them harm!!!   Which reminds me...I need to go shootin!!!

[Jess from VA]

Try as I might I just can't warm up to the Glocks.

Me either.  I've shot them and their OK.  I do not like the safe trigger (or safety on the trigger), but it's OK.  No question they work and are highly reliable.  Gotta be very careful with reloads though.  I'd probably rather have a Glock than a fair number of other pistols out there, but I like my 1911s, Sig, and High Powers better (what I grew up with).  My best explanation is that I had mostly decided on my favorite pistols before Glocks ever came out.  I do have a half polymer Kahr.  If I needed one more, I'd probably go for a Springfield XD before a Glock....... except I always did want a model 19. 

[Gangman036]

I have shot a lot of Glocks and still don't own one. They are IMHO very accurate. Any semi-auto pistol is prone to fail or misfeed factory or reloaded ammo. I preference is a good snubby wheel gun and my 870 !!! I have NEVER had a wheel gun fail me. And I agree that if your going to carry a weapon.......you need to practice with it frequenty. As well as educate all others that live with you, especially children. Ignorance of weapon functions has killed too many people and kids.

[HayHauler]

Sludge, good points...  Also, practice with your "weak" hand.  Never know when your dominant hand will out of commission.

I'm with you Farther, love my Sig...

Hay 
Jimmyt

[big turkey]

Sold my Glock Model 36 45 ACP Compact Carry, Jammed often, stove piped a lot, and the stinkin ejected brass

would hit me in the head quiet often.

I go with steel or aluminum frame semi-autos as a choice now.

They are great pistols I'm sure but not the only pistol and I found some better ones I like better.

I am regular concealed carry person that carries more than one most times and up to three.

That's on me, what's in the bike or the car I won't say here.

But I ain't never without a piece.

If Glock does it for you as it does for millions then good on you.

Big Al

[Sludge]

Any of you CCWs shoot IDPA?

[Farther]

I used to but the match time was changed from Sunday to Saturday and that does not fit my schedule.

[solo1]

I will not knock other brands of handguns but I do know about my Glocks.

Awhile back I bought a new Glock Tactical Practical model 35 (.40 S&W).  We were having a firearms safety class composed of young men who were in the police cadet class.  We had them shoot on the range, using my new Glock and cheap 180 gr ammo.  After a safety instruction and while closely watching them, each one shot a full magazine (10 rounds) of ammo. One 'limp wristed' the Glock and yet there were NO malfunctions of any kind with eight different youngsters shooting.

[Valker]

Solo1, I concur there. Four of my 5 kids have shot my Glock .40 S&W. Several hundred rounds have passed through it without a single issue. I have only shot factory loads so far.

[Varmintmist]

Get a GLOCK. . . . . They’re the #1 Police issue in the USA for a reason. Nuff’ said. [/color] 

  Low bid.

Politico chiefs got talked into the "easy" point and click Glock and figured on saving on their budgets?
At the time the 9mm was THE biggest baddest thing (IAW hollywierd) and the people who buy firearms really don't know much about them except what they saw on Lethal Weapon?

[Varmintmist]

DON'T YOU PEOPLE KNOW GUNS KILL!!!!!!

Not my fault. Blame it on surgeons that can't multi-task.

[KW]

If you have tiny hands, the older Glocks are harder to learn how to handle (they have a adjustable grip widths system now.) Or, if you’ve shot reloads out of them (something Glock specifically says you NOT to do) then you probably had a bad experience with them.  In other words; user error.

The only thing I take exception to is the people who have suggested Glocks are an unreliable firearm, or that they’re the #1 police duty weapon because of “low bids.”  That’s insulting to Police Departments and Criminal Justice organizations all around America . . . .  and, it just ain’t so.

The Department I retired form last year has shot – literally – over a hundred thousand rounds through them (I’m guessing and I’m probably low.) Our issue is the Model 22, 40 caliber and we had the grand total of one incident where the gun was damaged during range firing. As it turned out, the officer had snuck in some of his personal reloads that were way too hot. During the entire time I was a weapons instructor, about 12 years, I never once saw any stove piping. 

I don’t own any stock in Glock and would never try to ‘sell one’ to someone who was convinced they didn’t like them.  . .  Heck, I’ve even met people who loved motorcycles, but didn’t like Valkyries. Go figure.  And, I’ve once shot a Kimber on a combat course. The owner said the stinking thing cost over two grand. I don’t know about the cost, but he was real proud of the gun and kept telling me it was the finest made pistol in the world. It must have been true because he said it enough times. . .  All I could think about when I was shooting it was it had to be the most over-rated gun I ever shot . .  but it sure was pretty (kind of reminded me of a harley.) So what do I know? Make sure whatever defensive gun you pick you’re comfortable with it and as a few of the guys have already said; practice often with it.
 

[Varmintmist]

Try as I might I just can't warm up to the Glocks.  I guess I will just have to settle for my Sigs.

Farther, Why is that?  Just curious.  I know a couple of 1911 guys that feel the same way. When I ask, they can't give me an answer. They are forever working on their 1911's to make them shoot better, more reliable. (springs, barrels ammo, magazines ect..) From what I can research, the Glock is pretty much indestructable and accurate out of the box. I still have hang fires missfires and stovepipes with my Colt Combat Commander. Almost not reliable for my carry gun. Always fussing with it, trying new magazines, polishing the ramp, recoil buffers, springs. Kind of like my Valkyrie, love of labor.
Seriously, I'm curious?

Your buddies with the 1911's need to quit messing with them.
2 hours ago I was double tapping separate targets with a bone stock Kimber Custom II (500 bucks used) from the holster. Holster, draw, present-sweep saftey, tap tap, switch tap tap. I was a little off because I haven't shot it in a while but everything was at least respectable.

The 1911 fits. That is the bottom line. If you pick one up, close your eyes, and point at a target, open your eyes, with a 1911, you are in the ball park. They point naturally for anyone I have ever seen pick one up.  The thumb safety is a great place to rest your right thumb and you push when you bring it to bear. The grip safety means that it isn't going off without someones paw wrapped around it. It should be tight, but not a race gun. Aftermarket doo dads are the best thing about 1911's and the worst thing to happen to the platform.

As for Glocks. The first one I ever fired was in 40 Short and Weak, and accuracy was on a par with a snub nosed revolver, OK, not anything to get excited about. I have big paws and the grip angle was weird for me, it felt like the grip was bulged in the middle of my palm. I felt like I was shooting a straight gripped pistol that someone put the upper part on wrong.
I have since fired a newer 9mm of different number and the grip angle was better, and the pistol hit pretty well, good enough to be comfortable with.
You are limited in holsters with a Glock because you NEED a hard sided holster that covers the trigger guard, BECAUSE they will go off if the trigger is pulled, even by accident. They MUST be cleared the same way because there is no mag safety (which I think is a good thing as they render the weapon inoperable in a reload) and no passive safety that will help keep the thing from going off.

In general, I think that a Glock is a decent weapon, that REQUIRES (IMHO) as much or more training than a 1911, BECAUSE it is a point and click interface. They are NOT a newbie weapon. They are not a weapon that should be in the hands of people who know it all. If you are smart enough to keep your brain clutch engaged, even though it is "easy", then you can learn to shoot anything safely and well. Then Glock is just another choice in finding one that you like.

[Sludge]

KW, I have a 17 and a 34.  The 34 has been flawless, but the 17 will stick one now and then.  At the last GSSF match I shot at I had 3 jams on the day with factory ammo.  Had jams even after the Glock armorer worked on it and replaced half the components.  Oh, and when I shoot reloads, they work fine.  A few ppl messing with reloading while not knowing what they are doing give the vast majority of us responsible reloaders a bad name.  I have fired literally thousands upon thousands through my glocks, XDs and 1911s.  Not to mention that I use nothing but reloads for my rifles. 

[x]

Not pointing at you AL, but Duck does have a bit of a point.  Lots of ppl do say, .. I would have done this ... or I would do that... There certainly are alot of armchair quarterbacks.  The truth is that none of us know what we will or wont do until the situation is on us and usually those situations have us mentally behind right from the start.  We are brainy animals, yet still ... animals.  Our startle response and sympathetic nervous system further puts us behind in many cases as well when danger is suddenly thrust upon us.  We get that deer in headlights look for a second or so as our mind strains to identify the threat and come to terms with it.  The stress response creates tunnel vision and threat focus that further hinders our situational awareness.  The hand gets shaky as adrenaline enters the system and our fine motor skills suffer.  Judgement is poor and in this brief moment we are really in bad shape.  

I have faced such a moment but not at the point of a gun.  Rather, the exploding of a jet engine in flight.  Luckily intense training eventually overcame the stress response, but the FIRST in flight emergency was by far the worst.  With successive issues in subsequent flights, and better mental training on my part, the response was reduced quite a bit.  

The fact is that all we can do is try to mentally prepare ourselves for such an event and prepare ourselves as shooters so that when the moment of truth comes, if it ever does, that we dont have to think to operate the weapon.  Thats why I try to do as much shooting in competition as I can with my carry gun.  For one it introduces pressure and it makes the use of the gun less of a thought out response.  It just happens.  Thats what we need as shooters when under the pressure.  Once the brain tells the gun to go.. it needs to just happen.  So that my brain in such a situation has just a couple less things to worry about than fumbling the safety or spraying past the threat into God knows what or who.  It takes thousands of rounds down range to do this though.  To develop the point, etc...

Also, its good to exercise the brain.  Have a plan for defending the ones you love in your home.  For instance, I have briefed my family that the stairs to the second story are the choke point I want to dominate.  Nothing comes past that without killing me.  It is a funnel in my house that any intruder must pass to threaten my family as they sleep.  If someone was to attempt a break in while we are awake the plan is the same.  Retreat to the upstairs and hold the fatal funnel I have just created for them.  The family are to stay in their bedrooms and get on the phone and stay on the phone with 911 telling the police that we are armed, where we are... etc
An intruder can have anything downstairs.  I dont want to be a macho man and go downstairs to kick them out.  Hell, the insurance can replace TVs and material items.  It cant replace the lives of myself or family.  

We as concealed carriers also need to use things like the news to put our mind in motion.  For instance, the recent shooting of a concealed carry outside of a Costco by police officers.  Look at that situation as a learning experience.  What caused this confrontation?  What could the CCW have done better?  What did he do wrong?  What caused the perception of danger from the store employees or the responding police?  

The gun is just a tool.  The mind is the ultimate weapon.  Sharpen it.

Sorry I rambled on a bit.. Carry is a part of my daily life and I take my proficiency with the weapon seriously.  I hope my fellow CCW permit holders take it seriously as well.

Oh and Glocks are good guns, but I prefer my Springfield XD-40.  It just fits ME better and I have had far fewer malfunctions out if it than my 2 Glocks (17 & 34)

Well put and on the money.

[KW]

Sludge;
That's 'fair enough' my friend. . . No gun will ever be perfect. I didn't mean to sound like a Glock rep trying to sell a gun  I've just had good luck with them! Oh . . . did I mention I can buy them at Department cost, which is below the wholesale price?  (full disclosure; better late than never!)

I remember shooting in a centerfire competition a few years ago in a friendly family type league.  I was using my Mark II (modified) and my wife was using her old Buckmark (stock.) Two of the better shooters had Hammerli’s. I don’t know what those things cost, and I’m sure they’re great guns, but they both 'stovepiped’ more than our guns. Ammo selection plays a big part in how the gun acts, no? 

[Scott in Ok]

Tundra, I'm not Farther, but I'll give my reasons...

In _MY_ hands, I've never shot a more inaccurate, unreliable gun than a Glock.

I've been saying that for years, I've had numerous friends tell me I'm full of it and to try theirs... In all my years of trying various Glocks, I have managed to go through an entire magazine without at least one failure ONE time. (And that same gun had a FTF on the next magazine)

And when they do function, I hate the grip angle, it's very unnatural for me, and throws my aim way off. I have to consciously aim with it, whereas with the 1911 style grip angle, it's "Point and Click". And yes, it is at least partially just what you're used to.

Please note, I'm not saying Glocks are unreliable and inaccurate. I'm saying they're unreliable and inaccurate in MY hands. And yes, I've been told I'm limp wristing it, I've been told I'm holding 'em too firmly, and all points in between, but at this point, I simply would never be willing to trust my life to a Glock.

One other thing, of all the people who I know that have had unintentional discharges (Scary that I know more than one of those, eh?) they've ALL been with Glocks. None were directly the gun's fault, of course, but I really REALLY like the additional grip safety that the XD's have over the Glocks.

My Springfield Armory XD's however, have never failed for me, and I was able to hit a small ornamental vase at 30 yards with a single shot from my XD Sub Compact .40 S&W.

One final disclaimer - Not trying to turn this into a "My gun can beat up your gun" thread. Whatever YOU are comfortable with, whatever YOU are proficient with, whatever functions well in YOUR hands, that YOU can aim well and hit what you're meaning to hit with is what YOU should be carrying, just 'splaining the reasons why that is NOT a Glock for me...

I have a Glock 17.  Its never FTF, or jammed in any way.  But,  I could get similar accuracy by throwing a rock at a target.  It never has shot worth a crap.

-Scott

[Sludge]

SE, thanks for the compliment.  We may disagree on nearly everything else but its good to find common ground on something 

Scott, both of my Glocks drive em good.  They are plenty accurate.  Ive honestly not seen one that is very inaccurate.  My problem currently is that my 17 is more finiky about ammo than my 34 for some reason.  However, the 17 has had a few thousand passed through it and the 34 is new from last Christmas and really hasnt gotten to come out and play much... YET. 

KW, No Prob.  Each gun of mine has its own personality.  I usually go out and do some chrono work with reloads and factory ammo to record the factory ammo's power factor and to find where each gun has some type of failure.  I then up the loads until they run well and note that as a lowest power factor load to function properly with that grain of bullet in my reloading log book.  I go up from there, but never over the maximum in the reloading literature for what ever powder I am using. 

I may have to re-visit the Glock 17 and do some more testing since the Win White Box 9mm 115gr ammo is failing on occasion.  Perhaps Win has lowered the power factor of their ammo since I previously tested it a few years ago.  Or perhaps something as yet undiscovered has happened to that particular gun.  I may need to up the power factor on my hand loads past What Win White Box chrono's out to be.  Until recently (within the last year)  Win White Box 9mm has functioned flawlessly in the 17.  Generally speaking, my hand loads for target shooting tend to mimic the Win White Box values in most of my handgun loads for various calibers.   

Oh, and I can get a Blue Glock purchase too   Its a benefit of being a GSSF member.  You get one LE discount purchase per year.  So ya can end up getting a new 17 in the neighborhood of about $380 or so before tax. 

[solo1]

Very interesting post.  One thing that I would point out, the S&W .40 is a good round,  Short and weak description of it sounds like a .45 ACP advocate.  I won't knock the .45ACP cartridge and the S&W .40 doesn't deserve it either.

I had a very nice Series 70 Colt 1911.  It got a bad reputation from the 'fingered' barrel bushing which occasionally broke and caused problems, I didn't condemn the gun or the cartridge because of it.

However, the Glock works for me.  I do not have to screw with adapting things on it to get it to work for me, a left hander.  The 1911 is a right handed firearm.

However, the Glock is much easier for me to use.  No safety on the wrong side and I release the slide by pulling back on the slide and not using the slide release.   Good practice for clearing too.

A strong caveat for the Glock, I will admit, is don't carry in a fanny pack without using a trigger block.
Also, do not, do not, shoot lead bullets through its polygonal barrel.!  If you prefer lead bullets, get a cut groove match barrel.

Oh hell, I think that I'll go back to my old reliable, my 442 S&W Centennial.

Maybe even better, my '44 Mag Ruger Vacquero and it's made for lefties.

[KW]

Sludge; our cost is $389, + sales tax, so they're $412 out the door. No limit on purchases, but they make you sign an agreement not to resell them for at least 1 year. I think if someone tried to take advantage of the program, they'd get 'outed' and banned from the store. 

[Farther]

Farther, Why is that?  Just curious.  Seriously, I'm curious?

The egonomics of the Sigs are far better for me than the Glocks.

[sugerbear]

i don't care what the caliber, or what gun it came from, they would all hurt like hell

[BigAl]

+1 on the XD40.

+2 on the Diminutive Bersa 380.

+3 on the P95DC 9mm Ruger, will shoot most ammo anytime,, except the Russian Steel Jacket Ammo.

+4 Ruger GP100 .357 6-Shooter, it's a hoot.

[The Anvil]

Different strokes for different folks. I don't personally care for Sigs. The quality is undeniably high and for those that like them they're great. But I don't care for the way they shoot.

Glock? Love em and  they shoot beautifully. But I won't carry a gun without a manual safety so I chose H&K instead as my carry piece.

As for why I carry, well I don't carry much anymore. But I used to for work.

[X Ring]

Glock? Love em and  they shoot beautifully. But I won't carry a gun without a manual safety so I chose H&K instead as my carry piece.

They don't?  Let's see.  There is a safety lever on the trigger that prevents the trigger from moving rearward unless it's depressed.  That's manually operated.  The firing pin safety is pushed out of the way by the trigger bar when the trigger is pressed.  That's manually operated.  The drop safety moves the trigger bar down when the trigger bar is fully rearward.  That's manually operated.  Three safeties that are manually operated progressively and instantaneously re-engage when you take your finger off the trigger. 

However, no safety on a firearm beats the four primary firearms safety rules.

1.  Treat ALL firearms as if they're loaded at ALL times.
2.  NEVER point a weapon at anything you DO NOT want to kill or destroy.
3.  Keep your stinkin' finger OFF the trigger unless your sights are on target AND you are ready to fire.
4.  Be sure of your target, what's in front of your target and what's behind it.

Follow these rules religiously and you will be fine with any firearm.

Marty

[fudgie]

Safety? Who needs a safety? My 40 wont go off since its properly holstered. Plus its got a hammer, thats my safety.
Looking at getting a pocket .380 this week since Gov Daniels signed the new law.  Boss lady said if I cant see it, I aint askin about it. My partner asked if I was packin yesterday. No not yet I said. She was kinda pissed! 
Got my hands around a Ruger LCP but the grips were kinds small in my hands. Did try a Taurus .380, not sure what model, and it fit very well. Same size as the LCP. The 9mm's were just a tad to heavy for what I'm gonna do with it.

[The Anvil]

Glock? Love em and  they shoot beautifully. But I won't carry a gun without a manual safety so I chose H&K instead as my carry piece.

They don't?  Let's see.  There is a safety lever on the trigger that prevents the trigger from moving rearward unless it's depressed.  That's manually operated.  The firing pin safety is pushed out of the way by the trigger bar when the trigger is pressed.  That's manually operated.  The drop safety moves the trigger bar down when the trigger bar is fully rearward.  That's manually operated.  Three safeties that are manually operated progressively and instantaneously re-engage when you take your finger off the trigger. 

However, no safety on a firearm beats the four primary firearms safety rules.

1.  Treat ALL firearms as if they're loaded at ALL times.
2.  NEVER point a weapon at anything you DO NOT want to kill or destroy.
3.  Keep your stinkin' finger OFF the trigger unless your sights are on target AND you are ready to fire.
4.  Be sure of your target, what's in front of your target and what's behind it.

Follow these rules religiously and you will be fine with any firearm.

Marty

man·u·al
   /ˈmænyuəl/ Show Spelled[man-yoo-uhl]
–adjective
1.
done, operated, worked, etc., by the hand or hands rather than by an electrical or electronic device: a manual gearshift.
2.
involving or using human effort, skill, power, energy, etc.; physical: manual labor.
3.
of or pertaining to the hand or hands: manual deformities.


The dictionary. It's FAAAAAAN-TASTIC! 

[X Ring]

Glock? Love em and  they shoot beautifully. But I won't carry a gun without a manual safety so I chose H&K instead as my carry piece.

They don't?  Let's see.  There is a safety lever on the trigger that prevents the trigger from moving rearward unless it's depressed.  That's manually operated.  The firing pin safety is pushed out of the way by the trigger bar when the trigger is pressed.  That's manually operated.  The drop safety moves the trigger bar down when the trigger bar is fully rearward.  That's manually operated.  Three safeties that are manually operated progressively and instantaneously re-engage when you take your finger off the trigger. 

However, no safety on a firearm beats the four primary firearms safety rules.

1.  Treat ALL firearms as if they're loaded at ALL times.
2.  NEVER point a weapon at anything you DO NOT want to kill or destroy.
3.  Keep your stinkin' finger OFF the trigger unless your sights are on target AND you are ready to fire.
4.  Be sure of your target, what's in front of your target and what's behind it.

Follow these rules religiously and you will be fine with any firearm.

Marty

man·u·al
   /ˈmænyuəl/ Show Spelled[man-yoo-uhl]
–adjective
1.
done, operated, worked, etc., by the hand or hands rather than by an electrical or electronic device: a manual gearshift.
2.
involving or using human effort, skill, power, energy, etc.; physical: manual labor.
3.
of or pertaining to the hand or hands: manual deformities.


The dictionary. It's FAAAAAAN-TASTIC! 

Obviously YOU need to spend some time in it or maybe improving your reading comprehension.  ALL the safeties are operated by your trigger finger; therefore, they are ALL manually operated and meet all 3 definitions you posted. 

Marty

[MacDragon]

This thread was apparently brought back to life from last year.

I'm also a left hander.  The Ruger P-89 9mm is a good gun and holds 15 rounds. With an extra two clips... it's ready for anything. I also like my .357 Ruger SP-101 snub nose wheel gun.  It's just awesome in my opinion for a small carry.  (It's a 5 shot wheel Al) Packs a big punch, but certainly for close range.  Most immediate problems will be close range.  Have a couple of speed loaders for it.

I've also shot many different guns and like these two as they are conducive to me being a lefty.  Can also shoot right handed as I grew up in a right handed world... but more comfortable left.

For a short while back in the 90s, I had a beast of a .50 cal Desert Eagle and couldn't shoot the darn thing... Left hand on grip puts my left index finger on the trigger... About 20% of the time, the slide would come back on discharge and the slide lock (left side) would just barely catch my index knuckle and lock the slide open where I would have to recycle the round by closing the slide with an un-lock.  Certainly a right hander's gun ... wouldn't happen to a right hander.  I put around 700 rounds through it and got rid of it...That was just too much handgun anyway.  

Good thread and no one got completely edgy...

[YoungPUP]

Not a Block fan ( ) i'll stick to my XD9 subcompact. Great weapon, with only 2 complaints. I've been checked at the local range for incompatible ( too big) calibers for the range. ( the 2.5 inch barrel can be a bit loud. , and when starting with a cold weapon the shells eject straight out the side, but as the weapon heats up the ejections start working up towards the 12 o'clock position, so you end up with hot brass flying up over your head. ( keeps people from standing too close, but sucks when you drop one down the back of your shirt....

[RoadKill]

Glock? Love em and  they shoot beautifully. But I won't carry a gun without a manual safety so I chose H&K instead as my carry piece.

They don't?  Let's see.  There is a safety lever on the trigger that prevents the trigger from moving rearward unless it's depressed.  That's manually operated.  The firing pin safety is pushed out of the way by the trigger bar when the trigger is pressed.  That's manually operated.  The drop safety moves the trigger bar down when the trigger bar is fully rearward.  That's manually operated.  Three safeties that are manually operated progressively and instantaneously re-engage when you take your finger off the trigger. 

However, no safety on a firearm beats the four primary firearms safety rules.

1.  Treat ALL firearms as if they're loaded at ALL times.
2.  NEVER point a weapon at anything you DO NOT want to kill or destroy.
3.  Keep your stinkin' finger OFF the trigger unless your sights are on target AND you are ready to fire.
4.  Be sure of your target, what's in front of your target and what's behind it.

Follow these rules religiously and you will be fine with any firearm.

Marty

man·u·al
   /ˈmænyuəl/ Show Spelled[man-yoo-uhl]
–adjective
1.
done, operated, worked, etc., by the hand or hands rather than by an electrical or electronic device: a manual gearshift.
2.
involving or using human effort, skill, power, energy, etc.; physical: manual labor.
3.
of or pertaining to the hand or hands: manual deformities.


The dictionary. It's FAAAAAAN-TASTIC! 

is that from the same dictionary you received your firearm training from ?  Come back and share when you are older,GROWN UPS is talkin here.    

[RoadKill]

Not a Block fan ( ) i'll stick to my XD9 subcompact. Great weapon, with only 2 complaints. I've been checked at the local range for incompatible ( too big) calibers for the range. ( the 2.5 inch barrel can be a bit loud. , and when starting with a cold weapon the shells eject straight out the side, but as the weapon heats up the ejections start working up towards the 12 o'clock position, so you end up with hot brass flying up over your head. ( keeps people from standing too close, but sucks when you drop one down the back of your shirt....

next time it starts ejecting upwards try re-adjusting your grip.

[BigAl]

I looked at my Ruger and I was mistaken, it's GP100 and it is a 6 shooter as I said.

Had the wrong model number in my head.

Checked it out and it is a GP100.

Thanks

Sorry for my mental fopaux.

AL

[X Ring]

Not a Block fan ( ) i'll stick to my XD9 subcompact. Great weapon, with only 2 complaints. I've been checked at the local range for incompatible ( too big) calibers for the range. ( the 2.5 inch barrel can be a bit loud. , and when starting with a cold weapon the shells eject straight out the side, but as the weapon heats up the ejections start working up towards the 12 o'clock position, so you end up with hot brass flying up over your head. ( keeps people from standing too close, but sucks when you drop one down the back of your shirt....

You have a problem with wandering zero as it heats up?  It should consistently have the same ejection pattern whether it's cold or hot.  Sounds like as the weapon heats up the muzzle velocity is changing.

Marty

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I looked at my Ruger and I was mistaken, it's GP100 and it is a 6 shooter as I said.

Had the wrong model number in my head.

Checked it out and it is a GP100.

Thanks

Sorry for my mental fopaux.

AL

Good weapon.  I don't particularly like the GP series but it's still a good weapon.  Ruger has always made good revolvers.  I just prefer the ones made before the GPs.

Marty

[MacDragon]

I looked at my Ruger and I was mistaken, it's GP100 and it is a 6 shooter as I said.

Had the wrong model number in my head.

Checked it out and it is a GP100.

Thanks

Sorry for my mental fopaux.

AL

I figured you just had the wrong gun in mind or you meant to say 5 shot... one or the other.  
 

Good weapon.  I don't particularly like the GP series but it's still a good weapon.  Ruger has always made good revolvers.  I just prefer the ones made before the GPs.

Marty

I've had the SP-101 since the early 90s and flawless... You're right ... Ruger makes a good just about anything...

Had a couple of Ruger Mini 14s that shot the .223 round like the M16s  Dead on accurate as all hell.  One of them had the folding stock with the pistol grip all blacked out... Shoulda kept those... Hind-sight is 20-20.

Ride safe my friends.

[flcjr]

DON'T YOU PEOPLE KNOW GUNS KILL!!!!!!

Not my fault. Blame it on surgeons that can't multi-task.

guns dont kill people, people kill people.
if guns kill people then spoons made Rosie Odonnell fat

[X Ring]

I looked at my Ruger and I was mistaken, it's GP100 and it is a 6 shooter as I said.

Had the wrong model number in my head.

Checked it out and it is a GP100.

Thanks

Sorry for my mental fopaux.

AL

I figured you just had the wrong gun in mind or you meant to say 5 shot... one or the other.  
 

Good weapon.  I don't particularly like the GP series but it's still a good weapon.  Ruger has always made good revolvers.  I just prefer the ones made before the GPs.

Marty

I've had the SP-101 since the early 90s and flawless... You're right ... Ruger makes a good just about anything...

Had a couple of Ruger Mini 14s that shot the .223 round like the M16s  Dead on accurate as all hell.  One of them had the folding stock with the pistol grip all blacked out... Shoulda kept those... Hind-sight is 20-20.

Ride safe my friends.

You must have had one of the GB (Government Barrel) version.  I've had a couple of Mini-14s, a Standard and a Ranch Rifle.  Both had problems with maintaining a consistent zero when the barrel was warm.  Got rid of them and have never looked back.  Except for the Mini 14/30s, GP revolvers and the whole P series semi autos.  I like Rugers.  The reason I don't like the GPs and P semi has nothing to do with function.  I don't like cast frames and cast firearm frames mean the gun has to be fairly thick for the cartridge they use.

Marty