"president" Obama

[valkmc]

I'll still read your posts, I personally think Obama and his cronnies are crooks and are ruining this country, but then I think that about most politicians.
[/quote]

Amen to that, the last several presidents and their friends  have been untrustworthy including this bunch, I keep looking for someone to step up and really change Washington DC but I am not sure any one person can change the culture that exist there.

[Tropic traveler]

IMO, the content in this post is a politically charged piece of propaganda, designed only to appease and embolden the anti-Obama crowd.  The content of this message is worthless, since it’s only a one-sided opinion, devoid of any legal precedence or theory.  Like most conspiracy theory rhetoric, it seeks to prove a negative, and furthers the idea that lack of evidence is evidence of a crime.

Oh yes, the anti-Obama crowd is certainly emboldened. The extent of which we will all see come November.
November will be step 1 in the correction process, step 2 comes in '12.

I for one could not care less where this nitwit we have in the WH was born. What troubles me is how easily the American people can be duped into believing liberal ideas & plans will actually work, regardless of how they are packaged & who presents them. I guess the "dumbing down" of our education process in this country has finally had the intended effect.
I must admit one thing however, I have found some common ground with the resident libs on this board. Spending any time & energy on discrediting Obama's right to be president is counter productive, the real problem is THAT they got elected. Time & energy is much better spent pointing out the stupidity of liberal ideas. God knows there are enough examples of them being used by the libs in power we have right now! 

[andym]

Wow
Guess Im simple minded. If there are rules in place that people need to comply with to be president, then they should. If the President is bending the rules, what example does that set for the rest of the country? If he was born here why doesnt he simply disclose it? When persons accept employment in the public sector they know they are subject to full disclosure.

Think about what made this country great ....lots of hard working honest people, who had integrity and wanted to give their children a better life ..Is that the nature of America today ? I agree with some of the post here regarding immigration, follow the rules like our ancestors did or stay out.

When I was sick in the hospital I had a $350,000 hospital bill and the nurse told me the illegal alien in the bed next to me was getting all of his treatment for free. My co pay was 30% which I negotiated down .....why was all of his treatment free and my bill so high.?Well as the nurse put it, his doctor isnt working for free someone has to pay for it.......
I can ramble on endlessly but I'll stop ..dont want to offend the bleeding heart liberals or god forbid be called a racisit or the like...ooops there goes my freedom of speech

[big turkey]

You mean the Pyramids of Giza were not built by Martians?

Big AL

[John Schmidt]

 "Blessed are the peace makers".
[/quote]Wayne, wasn't there a gun with that name? Seems rather appropriate. 

As for Obama's birthplace, I question his origin but can't prove anything so leave it alone. I've seen about as much so-called "evidence" supporting both sides of the issue, and since there's nothing I can do about it.......

As for immigration...until the administration starts listening to the masses and enforcing current laws, nothing decisive will be done. At last count, the illegals are costing the various states over $300 billion/year. As with other posts, my grandfather came over from Italy as a single man back in the 20's. He came through Ellis Island like all the rest, didn't know a word of English but worked and learned. After a few years, he had saved enough to bring over his lady friend....grandma was 22 years younger than he. Let's hear it for grandpa!!!    I have all his original papers, given to me by my natural mother. I was adopted over 70 years ago at about 2 1/2 years old but found my bio-family in my late 40's. I always wondered why my dad's name was Adams, which isn't Italian, until I saw my grandad's papers. The original name was Adamo, but when he signed the naturalization papers he put a little tail on the "o" at the end which with his shaky penmanship made it look like Adams....not Adamo. Just a strange little quirk in the family history.

[Chrisj CMA]

Bottom line........even if we cant impeach obama.....vote vote vote.....vote em all out and start over

[Varmintmist]

The real simple way to clear this up is to show the birth cert.

As it is, Obismal has spent 1.3 Mil keeping a public document private against lawsuits with the help of the Gov. of Hawaii.

I find that odd behavior for someone who could make fools of his critics with a 9x7 piece of paper and 15 seconds. The birth cert. is the proof, and the evidence, and it is being kept hidden.

The only reason for doing that would be that it ain't what he says it is. IF that is the case, EVERY law he has signed, is void, and there would be no impeachment, just an arrest. Second problem, the VP. As bad as Obismal is, think President Biden. We would be at war in a week.

[valkmc]

Bottom line........even if we cant impeach obama.....vote vote vote.....vote em all out and start over

I wish I could believe voting this bunch out would help but the truth is the previous president who was suppose to be some what conservative did not do any better than this president.

[Bobbo]

I guess the real question is what level of proof will be enough to satisfy all people who doubt Obama was born in the USA.  It seems the answer is an impossibly high level.  Obama has released his Hawaiian birth certificate online (you can easily Google search it).  Apparently that wasn’t enough, and demands for a “long form” certificate were substituted.  If Obama produced that (if there even IS such a thing), the next demand would probably be a notarized original signed by the governor, with the official state seal, and a dozen witnesses!

This is a never ending, and escalating request, whose only purpose is to harass the winning political party.

If Obama is defeated in the 2012 elections, I hope it is for valid reasons like policy, and not because of an electorate too lazy to do proper research, who are swayed by trumped up rumors.

[John Schmidt]

If Obama is defeated in the 2012 elections, I hope it is for valid reasons like policy, and not because of an electorate too lazy to do proper research


Come to think of it......that's somewhat how he got elected in the first place. Just my opinion after talking and listening to a lot of people. Even my wife, who WAS a staunch BO backer, made the comment recently referring to him; "I guess I have a lot of company when it comes to falling for a line of BS" during a discussion with some lady friends of hers. In the 20+ years we've been together, I have never entered into a political or religous discussion with her. She found out early in our relationship that I refuse to do so. If she tried to open up a dialogue, I just gave her something to read on the subject and leave it alone.

It's interesting to note....in my old office before I retired, the colors and nationality of the staff were mixed....I was in the minority by quite a large margin. I attended a retirement party for a former associate during early Fall 2008, the atmoshpere was nearly 100% in support of BO. I attended another gathering this summer and was amused by the nearly 100% flip in attitudes. At present, in that office alone there probably isn't more than two of every twenty people that still support BO and his minions. It's not a scientific survey by any means but I think it shows a trend....before and after. I said nothing in either meeting, just observed and listened....and smiled when appropriate.

[Bobbo]

If Obama is defeated in the 2012 elections, I hope it is for valid reasons like policy, and not because of an electorate too lazy to do proper research

Come to think of it......that's somewhat how he got elected in the first place.

Unfortunately, you are probably right…  Seems to have been going on for quite a while…

[Varmintmist]

I guess the real question is what level of proof will be enough to satisfy all people who doubt Obama was born in the USA.  It seems the answer is an impossibly high level.  Obama has released his Hawaiian birth certificate online (you can easily Google search it).  Apparently that wasn’t enough, and demands for a “long form” certificate were substituted.  If Obama produced that (if there even IS such a thing), the next demand would probably be a notarized original signed by the governor, with the official state seal, and a dozen witnesses!

No, he didnt.
What was released was a "certificate of live birth". That is given to prove that you are alive for legal purposes to anyone and is not, repeat NOT, legal proof of where you were born.  IF he was born in Hawaii, there will be a state issued birth certificate. He has spent 1.3 mil, and the Gov. of Hawaii has locked any record of his birth in Hawaii up.

If he was born in Hawaii, then there is a birth certificate, period. Why has he spent so much to deny freedom of information requests? Why has the Gov. ordered that the records not be made public?

[x]

The real simple way to clear this up is to show the birth cert.

As it is, Obismal has spent 1.3 Mil keeping a public document private against lawsuits with the help of the Gov. of Hawaii.

I find that odd behavior for someone who could make fools of his critics with a 9x7 piece of paper and 15 seconds. The birth cert. is the proof, and the evidence, and it is being kept hidden.

The only reason for doing that would be that it ain't what he says it is. IF that is the case, EVERY law he has signed, is void, and there would be no impeachment, just an arrest. Second problem, the VP. As bad as Obismal is, think President Biden. We would be at war in a week.

Like all the rest, you have it bass ackwards.  You are alleging the President was not born in the US.  Prove it up?  If you asked me to prove up that I am a naturalized citizen, I would tell you to f*ck off.  It's up to you to prove that I am not.
 
See... that's a major problem with you birther bezerkers... you can't seem to understand how a properly constituted justice system works.  He's innocent until you can prove him guilty.  But you doofi want to call him guilty until he proves himself innocent.  What's wrong with this picture?

As I said before, if you bezerkers could come up with some concrete probable cause, then it might be worth pursuing.  As it now stands, you're a bunch of ranters.
 
Didn't you bezerkers learn anything about the American justice system in your civics classes?

[Oss]

What about honor?

If you know the requirements of the job require natural birth.....

SE and Bobbo Disclosure in future elections will be mandatory or I will buy you lunch at the next Inzane after 2012.

Here is a man who had honor not to run for president

http://www.neh.gov/news/humanities/2007-05/Honor.htm

His name was Alexander Hamilton, The rule requiring natural birth some allege, with good cause was written to keep the "bastard" from ever becoming President.   Now what do we have?

We wont get fooled again  until next time

and by the way it is no slam dunk that McCain could be President as he was born in the Canal Zone if my recollection is correct. No one is still alive from the writing of the Constitution so what is thought to be NATURAL BORN is interesting as at the time natural born meant what?  born in the indian territories of north america? or did it mean in the colonies as existing when.  We all seem to be so fearful of the Manchurian candidate it could easily be by definition one who WAS born here.  We need a better vetting contest indeed.

[x]

What about honor?

If you know the requirements of the job require natural birth.....

Disclosure in future elections will be mandatory or I will buy you lunch at the next Inzane after 2012.

Here is a man who had honor not to run for president

http://www.neh.gov/news/humanities/2007-05/Honor.htm

His name was Alexander Hamilton, The rule requiring natural birth some allege, with good cause was written to keep the "bastard" from ever becoming President.   Now what do we have?

We wont get fooled again  until next time

Oss... what evidence is there that Obama isn't natural born?  He's an honorable man... just like Bush was... although I think Bush nearly killed this country with his misguided presidency... he still did what he did for love of country... and Obama is the same... and I am appalled at those who question his patriotism.

[JimL]

Like all the rest, you have it bass ackwards.  You are alleging the President was not born in the US.  Prove it up?  If you asked me to prove up that I am a naturalized citizen, I would tell you to f*ck off.  It's up to you to prove that I am not.
 
See... that's a major problem with you birther bezerkers... you can't seem to understand how a properly constituted justice system works.  He's innocent until you can prove him guilty.  But you doofi want to call him guilty until he proves himself innocent.  What's wrong with this picture?

As I said before, if you bezerkers could come up with some concrete probable cause, then it might be worth pursuing.  As it now stands, you're a bunch of ranters.
 
Didn't you bezerkers learn anything about the American justice system in your civics classes?

SE I have to disagree with you on one point.  The point you make when you say " If you asked me to prove up that I am a naturalized citizen, I would tell you to f*ck off.".....under many circumstances I would agree with you.  However, when it is a governmental agency asking for these documents which is the case when we apply for a drivers license, or we apply for employment in the federal, state or now even the private sector; that response will not get you a drivers license or employment.  The last time I went through the employment process I had bring a stack of documents...one of which was my birth certificate.

As I said somewhere else, the birther debate in my opinion is a non-debate.  We have seen that it is impossible to get a blow job in the white house under the security afforded by the secret service without someone finding out about it.  If BO didn't have the right documents early in his political career, you can rest assured that he managed to get them before he moved too far up the political ladder.  

I am confident that he is able to produce any document that would be needed...as I suspect he did.  I don't know the details of the screening process for the office of President of the United States, however, whatever it is I am confident that there is at least one Conservative working in that department that would squeal if the process was being circumvented.  In other words...it would be much easier to get away with a blow job in the Oval office than circumvent the required documentation requirements for the office of President.

[fstsix]

Hahhaha...Like this would be the first time in the last 10 years a President was Impeached.....We are talking Government here....or should i say Politicians Career ones at that, OJ Simpson was innocent when he was Tried by the Local DA...when Barry Scheck and his Private Practice team ran over the Prosecutors It was obvious Money can Buy Freedom...But again Classic case of Obama's Chicago thugs go on trial 22 counts cannot be proved, But "One"count Lying again !!! LOL imagine That!! Just a lie that's it? i just can't help but laugh when i see the Government Prosecute the Government. Hey Blogo here is the deal......Don't take the stand Shut Up!! don't start naming names on the Stand and this will ALL go away    http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/08/14th-day-for-blagojevich-jury.html

Well....at the end of the day it will come out.....as was proved here when Clinton was Impeached and Blogo the Democrat....IT Was Proven Beyond A Reasonable Doubt this Party is Full OF LIAR'S

[Skinhead]

The real simple way to clear this up is to show the birth cert.

As it is, Obismal has spent 1.3 Mil keeping a public document private against lawsuits with the help of the Gov. of Hawaii.

I find that odd behavior for someone who could make fools of his critics with a 9x7 piece of paper and 15 seconds. The birth cert. is the proof, and the evidence, and it is being kept hidden.

The only reason for doing that would be that it ain't what he says it is. IF that is the case, EVERY law he has signed, is void, and there would be no impeachment, just an arrest. Second problem, the VP. As bad as Obismal is, think President Biden. We would be at war in a week.

Like all the rest, you have it bass ackwards.  You are alleging the President was not born in the US.  Prove it up?  If you asked me to prove up that I am a naturalized citizen, I would tell you to f*ck off.  It's up to you to prove that I am not.
 
See... that's a major problem with you birther bezerkers... you can't seem to understand how a properly constituted justice system works.  He's innocent until you can prove him guilty.  But you doofi want to call him guilty until he proves himself innocent.  What's wrong with this picture?

As I said before, if you bezerkers could come up with some concrete probable cause, then it might be worth pursuing.  As it now stands, you're a bunch of ranters.
 
Didn't you bezerkers learn anything about the American justice system in your civics classes?

I haven't wasted my time trying to find out which of the the numerous claims regarding the current criminal occupying the whitehouse are true.  There are enough broken campaign promises to prove to me that he is a lier, so I think it is entirely possible, and more so likely, that he is not a naturalized citizen of the US.  

Regarding evidence to support this, you say present it.  How can we present something that is a public record that is being with held by the government?

I am not syaing that is the case here, because as I stated, I have not tried to prove which claims are true and which are false.  All I know for a fact is that there are very few honorable people in politics.  And Obama, Reed, Polisey, and Barney Frank are some of the worst.  You may have another opinion, even if it is wrong.

[Chrisj CMA]

Its not just democrats....unfortunately Washington politics is (many times) defined by being a professional liar.  This president invited us to judge him by the caliber of people he surrounds himself with.  So, if he surrounds himself with liars and cheats (HE DOES) If he surrounds himself with radicals and anti american activists (HE DOES) and he says things like........"I wasnt born in Hawaii"..."Im from Kenya".....and his wife says Kenya is his "Home Country"   Then (taking him up on his invitation) if he is a liar and a cheat, then questioning something he left wide open for questioning by his own words is not only reasonable its our duty.

[fstsix]

Well doom and gloom and concerned ole me..I would not post this if i wasn't concerned about Craigs List but i have seen this thing happen before I am not sure they are going to make it with the Political post.http://providence.craigslist.org/pol/1864893114.html

[Hoosier Valk]

A good friend of mine seemed to be concerned about every whiff of possible scandal when it came to our President.

Well, about a month and a half ago, he was let go from his, high paying, job secure, I've been there 15 years, I can get a new job in a week, large international company, engineering job.

Doesn't seem to be near as concerned about anything related to possible scandals. Also, didn't get that new job in a week .... or month and a half.

I wish him and anyone else, good luck, in your job search.

 

[Chillerman]

Come on people!  I am no Obama supporter, but do you really think the Republicans or even the Democrats would have allowed him to be nominated if there was even a shred of evidence disproving his citizenship?  There have probably been more backround checks done on Obama than any president in history.  Some of this stuff that is thrown out on the web is truly amazing, and we fall for half of it without verification.  We will find out in November what the American public thinks of the current admin.  I don't think the returns will be too good!

[Chrisj CMA]

Come on people!  I am no Obama supporter, but do you really think the Republicans or even the Democrats would have allowed him to be nominated if there was even a shred of evidence disproving his citizenship?  There have probably been more backround checks done on Obama than any president in history.  Some of this stuff that is thrown out on the web is truly amazing, and we fall for half of it without verification.  We will find out in November what the American public thinks of the current admin.  I don't think the returns will be too good!

When you hold all the cards you make your hand be the high hand everytime..........Its not just Obama, the progressive swamp of scuzzy dirtbags surrounding this president have the money and the influence to make much more than this citizenship thing go away if they so choose.  Obama is  a puppet, a yes man for an underhanded agenda to kill capitolism and transform America to a form of socialism.  Obama is just the visible part of a plan that is no good for America, at least the America I love.


I will probably be called a tinfoil hat person now....thats ok, they can appologize later when it is undeniable

[Robert]

I am in no way a birther but I do want these questions answered just like we all would have to do.This comes as Obama critics in Arizona  try to get its Legislature to pass a law to require Obama -- and other presidential candidates -- to produce their birth certificates before they can get on a ballot.

A Certificate of Live Birth was presented by the Obama campaign showing that Obama is an American citizen[1]; however, Hawaiian law didn’t require Obama to actually have been born in Hawaii in order to obtain this registration.[2] that would solidify the fact that he actually was born in America. The Obama campaign and administration have failed to present this document to anyone. Instead, they have been suppressing the issue using two tactics: hiring lawyers to defend him against the legal dilemma – such as lawyer Perkins Coie, who was paid $688,316[3]  – and creating the ignorant propaganda, repeated by many liberals, that anyone who questions Obama’s eligibility is weird, crazy or racist. The liberal mainstream media has propagated the latter tactic through news broadcasts, such as Nightly News with Brian Williams, which incorrectly assert that Obama has proven his eligibility.[4]

The answer to this question can be found by answering another: who funded Obama’s campaign, which was the most expensive campaign ever? Here’s a start: his top contributor was Goldman Sachs, who just profited $12 billion last quarter after being a primary recipient of Obama’s bailout money.[8] Another primary recipient and top 5 Obama-funder was JP Morgan Chase, who profited $2.7 billion last quarter after receiving bailout money.[9] And the list goes on. Obama works for the interests of big bankers like a reverse Robin Hood: steal from the poor, give to the really rich. And the really scary reality to research is who owns these banks.[10] In fact, the same people that funded Bush into office funded Obama, who also funded McCain and the Clintons.[11] One would have to be extraordinarily naïve to think that such funding wouldn’t come without a price. After doing the research, it becomes clear that Obama is just a puppet of bankers and hasn’t turned out to be the “savior” he was purported to be. It will be interesting to see what the mainstream media discloses about this.
http://www.examiner.com/ron-paul-in-grand-rapids/birthers-proven-right-obama-s-kenyan-birth-certificate-found
Moore: GOP doubts 'birth certificate'
 
 missing mountains of qualifying data that all presidential candidates are expected to produce, including:

    * His Illinois law license. Is he even a lawyer? Where is his supposed Harvard Law degree? Where are the papers he wrote in law school? Why does he not correct people when they say he was a law professor when he was never a professor but only a lecturer?

    * His Selective Service registration, which investigative-journalist and lawyer Debbie Schlussel has reported to be falsified, an accusation that Linda Bentley quite persuasively documented just the other day.

    * His visa, or more probably visas. After all, he did travel to Pakistan in 1981 when Americans were forbidden into that country. Did he use the Indonesian visa he got when he was a citizen of that country?

    * His school records from Indonesia and Hawaii.

    * His college transcripts from Occidental College in CA, Columbia College in NY, and Harvard Law School in MA.

    * His baptism certificate.

    * His Illinois State Senate records.

    * His law practice client list.

    * His records from the University of Chicago, where Obama, the instructor, supposedly taught.

[Robert]

    A. From Hawaii's official Department of Health, Vital Records webpage: "Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country" (applies to adopted children).

    B. A parent may register an in-state birth in lieu of certification by a hospital of birth under HRS 338-5.

    C. Hawaiian law expressly provides for registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8.  A foreign birth presumably would have been recorded by the American consular of the country of birth, and presumably that would be reflected on the Hawaiian birth certificate.

    D. Hawaiian law, however, expressly acknowledges that its system is subject to error.  See, for example, HRS 338-17.

    E. Hawaiian law expressly provides for verification in lieu of certified copy of a birth certificate under HRS 338-14.3.

    F. Even the Hawaii Department of Home Lands does not accept a certified copy of a birth certificate as conclusive evidence for its homestead program.  From its web site:  "In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth(a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL."

[PAVALKER]

And if you want to read more......  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

 

[Tropic traveler]

Geez people.... enough of the Birth Certificate debate.
He's here doing the awful things we knew he would & there is nothing at this point we can do about it. Which BTW are the same lame, proven to fail, liberal crap ideas that Hillary, Biden, Edwards or any other of the D's would be doing if they got elected.
Focus on gutting the liberal's power in the congress, senate, & any of the state positions that are up this year. That will stop the liberal agenda in it's tracks & allow the true conservatives time to get their acts together to reverse the horrible decisions that have been made.
AND before you resident lib "scorekeepers" jump up & point out all the things that Bush did, save it. There hasn't been a decent decision maker in the WH since Reagan & he talked a good game more than got things done the right way. We haven't got much time left to reverse the trends.  
Maybe now we have gotten over the need to prove to the world how open minded we are by voting in a man of color to the nations highest office & start focusing on putting the right PERSON for the job in office.  
Pissing & moaning about the man's birthplace is missing the point entirely!!

[Varmintmist]

The real simple way to clear this up is to show the birth cert.

As it is, Obismal has spent 1.3 Mil keeping a public document private against lawsuits with the help of the Gov. of Hawaii.

I find that odd behavior for someone who could make fools of his critics with a 9x7 piece of paper and 15 seconds. The birth cert. is the proof, and the evidence, and it is being kept hidden.

The only reason for doing that would be that it ain't what he says it is. IF that is the case, EVERY law he has signed, is void, and there would be no impeachment, just an arrest. Second problem, the VP. As bad as Obismal is, think President Biden. We would be at war in a week.

Like all the rest, you have it bass ackwards.  You are alleging the President was not born in the US.  Prove it up?  If you asked me to prove up that I am a naturalized citizen, I would tell you to f*ck off.  It's up to you to prove that I am not.
 
See... that's a major problem with you birther bezerkers... you can't seem to understand how a properly constituted justice system works.  He's innocent until you can prove him guilty.  But you doofi want to call him guilty until he proves himself innocent.  What's wrong with this picture?

As I said before, if you bezerkers could come up with some concrete probable cause, then it might be worth pursuing.  As it now stands, you're a bunch of ranters.
 
Didn't you bezerkers learn anything about the American justice system in your civics classes?

First, thanks for the personal insults and lumping me into some group so you can attempt to belittle a position without having a fact, they were expected from someone without a answer or clue.

Second, if you are applying for a job and the company says "show a birth certificate or you don't get the job" and you tell them to F... off, you don't get employed. Its that simple. You have the choice to not prove your citizenship, then you don't get the job. No different than if the company says "pee in a cup". You do, or you find other employment.
To get the job, a person MUST PROVE that he/she is a natural born US citizen. IT IS UP TO HIM TO PROVE THAT.
He hasn't done that AND he has spent 1.3 mil to make damn sure that NO ONE gets to look at the paper that could shut the opposition up in 10 seconds or less.

I figured it was BS, however since the fight has been going on since BEFORE the election with Obama spending a ton of cash to keep his status secret, it lends a lot less credibility to his claim. When he could have won a lot of political capitol after about 2 months in office by stuffing the Birth Cert. in a available CNN camera. God knows that they would take that and run at every conservative that ever spoke for the next decade.
But that didn't happen, why is that??

As to did the Dems know that he wasn't? I doubt they knew at first. Then he polled real good and they threw their weight behind him before they found out. Then they made a decision to run with what they had because they figured they could get away with it vs losing the whole shooting match.

[stormrider]

SE call me anyting you want.........it wont change anything, with all due respect it just makes you a name caller

What cracks me up is you take up an extreme, unsupported position, happily wallowing in your ignorance, and expect people to respect this lunacy, treating it as a valid point of view?  Is this like, along the lines of, "all lifestyles are created equal"?  Next thing, you'll be asking me to believe the moon is made of green cheese, and the pyramids were built by Martians.

     , you're so funny.

[stormrider]

Hey Jeff, came across this video and decided you needed a good laugh. Would be funny if it weren't, well, I'll leave it to others to decide.

Hey There Obama (Drink the Kool Aid)	powered by Aeva

[Chrisj CMA]

Hey Jeff, came across this video and decided you needed a good laugh. Would be funny if it weren't, well, I'll leave it to others to decide.

Hey There Obama (Drink the Kool Aid)

Steve I tasted it once, but I didnt swallow it 

[Tropic traveler]

Careful now......... the only acceptable way of poking fun is done left to right, not right to left.
Haven't you heard of the one way street?? 

[Sludge]

LOL very creative!   

[Skinhead]

Finally, someone has put my feelings to music!  I felt so confused until I saw that video.