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Author Topic: What the heck is this noise.....wheel bearing, brake caliper?  (Read 2474 times)
BF
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« on: September 25, 2010, 03:55:30 PM »

Started to go for a short ride today.  Right after leaving I started hearing sounds like I've never heard before.  Didn't go far and went back to the house to take a look. 

It sounded kinda like a popping noise with a few snaps and crackles thrown in coming from what sounded like the rear brake caliper/left wheel bearing area. 

It would do this out of gear and just coasting.  What's weird is that when I applied the rear brake, it sounded like the rear brake caliper was chewing rocks or something.  The chewing rocks sound from the brakes being applied would lessen up and just about stop completely when I let up off the rear brake.  However, there would still be the occasional rice crispys sound.....pops with some snaps and crackles....all of this coming from the left/rear side of the bike.

On the way back home, I tried to take a cell phone video trying to document what I'm hearing.  Just ignore most of it untill about the 1:50 mark and then start to listen.  Maybe you can tell what I'm talking about. 

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After I get home I lift the bike and start looking at the rear caliper.  Took it off and haven't found anything wrong with it (the pads are fairly new.....and no problems with it up untill this point). 

So with the brake caliper safely hung out of the way and the rear brake pedal strapped so it won't move, I take the bike back out just in front of the house real slow trying to check it and and isolate what's making this noise.  There's still this snap, crackle and popping noise going on.  It doesn't appear to be the rear brake caliper now since it isn't even mounted and hooked up.  Sounds like a bad bearing maybe.  I don't know what else is down and around in that area that would make a noise like that. 

Lifted the bike back up again to take another look and just spun the rear wheel by hand.  This is what I heard......

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What else could this be......the dreaded left rear wheel bearing?

What does a bad rear wheel bearing sound like anyway?

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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2010, 04:02:49 PM »

That would sure be my guess.  The left rear is toast.  Put a RR bearing in there, and run forever!

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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2010, 04:16:59 PM »

That's my guess at this point also, but what gets me is that the rear brake caliper seemed to add to the noise of the left rear wheel bearing. 

Is that common?  Or is there something else going on here?
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2010, 04:28:14 PM »

but you did a good job with the video/audio.  I think you are correct, the left bearing is probably bad.  Go ahead and take it apart to be sure.
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2010, 05:03:14 PM »

That's my guess at this point also, but what gets me is that the rear brake caliper seemed to add to the noise of the left rear wheel bearing.  

Is that common?  Or is there something else going on here?


Sure, the brake acts to slow the rear wheel, which affects the left wheel bearing by interrupting continuity of wheel rotation.  When a bearing is beginning to fail, hitting your brakes often will induce or increase the vibration and noise symptoms.  I doubt the caliper itself made any extra noise.

When mine failed in Bumfok WVa, I found a steady 35-40mph put the least stress on the bearing as I limped around trying to find a shop/dealer.

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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2010, 05:06:11 PM »


  Sounds bad BF.  Sad  What year and how many miles?
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2010, 05:46:55 PM »

donald.....

It's a red & white '97 Standard with 44,441 miles on it.  I've had it a little over 2 years now.  Bought it with about 32,000 on it in early June '08.  






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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2010, 11:44:08 PM »

Sounds like the early stages of a bad wheel bearing.

Take it apart and feel the bearing by hand.  If it is not smooth, take it out and put in a fresh one.

A lot of people are putting the right side bearing in the left side.

Do a search on this site for instructions on how to do it.

Ya have to have the spacer cut down and loose one little dust cover.

I haven't had a rear bearing go in some time, so don't know if I'll convert or not.
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2010, 03:47:49 PM »

BF:  Call Chris.  He may agree that you could have the same problem he found in my '97 Tourer.  No need for me to try an explain it all here, except to say yes my bearing bearing was bad, but that was the results of the REAL problem.
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2010, 05:58:29 PM »

Check out this thread - A known issue to many on this board - but not HONDA [HA!]

The Double row bearing replacement for the left rear bearing seems to do the trick for those that have tried it...

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,17081.0.html

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Mike V.
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2010, 05:24:24 AM »

I am getting ready to put in my third set of rear bearings on my '97 Tourer.  One up most of the time and the 100,000 mile was just passed.  Have been using Honda OEM bearings.  It is a pain to change them out but not very difficult.  Remember, the '97 has different bearings than the other years, at least on the left side.  cooldude
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2010, 07:27:57 AM »

I am getting ready to put in my third set of rear bearings on my '97 Tourer.  One up most of the time and the 100,000 mile was just passed.  Have been using Honda OEM bearings.  It is a pain to change them out but not very difficult.  Remember, the '97 has different bearings than the other years, at least on the left side.  cooldude

No it doesn't.  The '97s have different FRONT wheel bearings but the rear wheel bearings are the same.  BF, do as others have suggested and perform the Double Row Wheel Bearing Mod.  My tech article is in Shoptalk.

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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2010, 09:12:38 AM »

My feeling is that since you ride your bike such a small amount that doing any kind of modification to the bearing is a waste.

Simply replacing the bearing is the simplest and most logical thing to do.

There are specific things not to do when replacing bearings that you should observe.

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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2010, 04:07:52 AM »

Sure sounded like bearing noise and as long as you have it apart check the driveshaft too
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