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« on: October 08, 2010, 04:41:01 AM »

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/wilders.asp

Currently He is on trial for five counts for his anti-islamic statements

In a generation or two, the US will ask itself: Who lost Europe ?'
Here is the speech of Geert Wilders, Chairman, Party for Freedom, the Netherlands , at the Four Seasons, New York , introducing an Alliance of Patriots and announcing the Facing Jihad Conference in Jerusalem .

Dear friends,

Thank you very much for inviting me.

I come to America with a mission.  All is not well in the old world.  There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic.  We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe.  This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West.  The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.

First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe .  Then, I will say a few things about Islam.  To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem .

The Europe you know is changing.

You have probably seen the landmarks.  But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world.  It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration.

All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen.  And if they are, they might regret it.  This goes for the police as well.  It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children.  Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead.  There are mosques on many street corners.  The shops have signs you and I cannot read.  You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity.  These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics.  These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe .  These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe , street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.

There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe .  With larger congregations than there are in churches.  And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region.  Clearly, the signal is: we rule.

Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam , Marseille and Malmo in Sweden .  In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim.  Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods.  Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities.

In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims.

Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils.  In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims.  Non-Muslim women routinely hear 'whore, whore'.  Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin.

In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin .  The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.

In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves.  Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels , because he was drinking during the Ramadan.

Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II.  French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya , Israel .  I could go on forever with stories like this.  Stories about Islamization.

A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe .  San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now.  Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.

Now these are just numbers.  And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate.  But there are few signs of that.  The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France .  One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks.  The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate.  Muslims demand what they call 'respect'.  And this is how we give them respect.  We have Muslim official state holidays.

The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority.  We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey .

Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots.  Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus.  I call the perpetrators 'settlers',  because that is what they are.  They do not come to integrate into our societies; they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam.  Therefore, they are settlers.

Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries.  Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored.

The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet.  His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized.  Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem.  But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages - at the same time.  Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed.  Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza.  If it is good for Islam, it is good.  If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.

Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion.  Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins.  But in its essence Islam is a political ideology.  It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person.  Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life.  Islam means 'submission'.  Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is sharia.  If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.

Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran.  The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor.  I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times.  I support Israel .  First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense.

This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam's territorial advance.  Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines , Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan , Lebanon , and Aceh in Indonesia .  Israel is simply in the way.  The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.

The war against Israel is not a war against Israel .  It is a war against the West.  It is jihad.  Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us.  If there would have been no Israel , Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest.  Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.

Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities.  But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values.  On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam.  They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed.  The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning.  It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination.  If they can get Israel , they can get everything.  So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'.  In my country, the Netherlands , 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy mistake since World War II.  And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat.  Yet there is a greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing.  The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine.  An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for America - as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs.  With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome , Athens and Jerusalem .

Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts.  My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives.  All throughout Europe , American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish.  My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians.  We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe 's children in the same state in which it was offered to us.  We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams.  Future generations would never forgive us.  We cannot squander our liberties.  We simply do not have the right to do so.

We have to take the necessary action now to stop this Islamic stupidity from destroying the free world that we know.
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2010, 05:02:44 AM »

Amen, and a BIG +1.  Hoser
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2010, 08:13:51 AM »

Can't wait until Bobbo tells us how all this is great, and everything will be better under Sharia law, and how Christians are worse.

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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2010, 01:01:42 PM »

All the speaches, all the examples, all the statistics, etc., will never stop the inevitable.  Because, unfortunately, there are too many among us who turn a blinds eye to reality and strictly live in a world of ideology...........a world that doesn't really exist, but they wish so hard that it did.  In their world, everyone lives together in peace, with no prejudices, no ill-will towards others, no sense of being different, and no hidden agendas.  

They will never understand, or admitt, that there actually is a culture out there that breads violence and hate.  They will also not admitt that the fear, anger, and bigotry from the "rest" of the world is a valid response/reaction to this culture.  That these feelings stem from decades of watching people get blown up while eating pizza or taking the bus to work, or being pulverized inside two buildings that have been destroyed.  From watching as the "moderates" of this culture stood by for all these decades and said/denounced nothing (yes, this one guy finally denounced after months of pressure, but it was a forced and bullshit denouncement) when it comes to terrorism and human (specifically female) rights.  From seeing this culture embrace terrorism as their way of rebellion and seeing thousands from this culture take to the streets and celebrate terrorist attacks all around the world.  

They just don't, nor will they ever, really get it.    Embarrassed 
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2010, 10:39:11 AM »

Can't wait until Bobbo tells us how all this is great, and everything will be better under Sharia law, and how Christians are worse.

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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2010, 10:54:42 AM »

Amen, and a BIG +1.  Hoser

This person directs his speeches to all of the “Chicken Littles” who hunger for the next fabricated catastrophe to wring their hands over.  If you cheer this person on, you are opposing our Constitution, specifically the First Amendment.  Mr. Wilders advocates banning the Quran, along with making most things associated with Islam illegal.  As Americans, is this the way we should counter a perceived threat?
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2010, 10:55:29 AM »

All the speaches, all the examples, all the statistics, etc., will never stop the inevitable.  Because, unfortunately, there are too many among us who turn a blinds eye to reality and strictly live in a world of ideology...........a world that doesn't really exist, but they wish so hard that it did.  In their world, everyone lives together in peace, with no prejudices, no ill-will towards others, no sense of being different, and no hidden agendas.  

They will never understand, or admitt, that there actually is a culture out there that breads violence and hate.  They will also not admitt that the fear, anger, and bigotry from the "rest" of the world is a valid response/reaction to this culture.  That these feelings stem from decades of watching people get blown up while eating pizza or taking the bus to work, or being pulverized inside two buildings that have been destroyed.  From watching as the "moderates" of this culture stood by for all these decades and said/denounced nothing (yes, this one guy finally denounced after months of pressure, but it was a forced and bullshit denouncement) when it comes to terrorism and human (specifically female) rights.  From seeing this culture embrace terrorism as their way of rebellion and seeing thousands from this culture take to the streets and celebrate terrorist attacks all around the world.  

They just don't, nor will they ever, really get it.    Embarrassed 


Your post complains about other people, but is short on suggestions.  What specifically do you see as a threat, and what should be done to counter it?
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2010, 11:01:01 AM »

The Islamic problem is not just in Europe anymore.

Here in Dearborn/Dearborn Hts. MI we have publicly funded shools that are now under Sharia law. English is taught as a second languge and anything related to Christianity is BANNED.

Most of my neighbors are arabic, but I do get along with them until they start to tell me about how they feel about our evil democratic system and our lack of reverence for Islam.
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2010, 11:18:08 AM »

The Islamic problem is not just in Europe anymore.

Here in Dearborn/Dearborn Hts. MI we have publicly funded shools that are now under Sharia law. English is taught as a second languge and anything related to Christianity is BANNED.

Most of my neighbors are arabic, but I do get along with them until they start to tell me about how they feel about our evil democratic system and our lack of reverence for Islam.

When kosher lunches are served at predominately Jewish public schools, are they now under Levitical law?  When public schools break for the Christmas holiday, are they now under Christian law?

How do you define “Under <insert religion> law”?

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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2010, 12:26:12 PM »

Bobbo,

Yes these schools serve only "Halal" meals, they observe Islamic holidays and cannot refer to the winter break as the "Christmas" holiday, and "Good Friday" is not observed either.

Christian prayer is not allowed, even in private and the Bible is a banned "Refrence Book".
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2010, 02:47:07 PM »

Bobbo,

Yes these schools serve only "Halal" meals, they observe Islamic holidays and cannot refer to the winter break as the "Christmas" holiday, and "Good Friday" is not observed either.

Christian prayer is not allowed, even in private and the Bible is a banned "Refrence Book".

Are they using the Quran as a teaching guide?  If so, they are violating state and federal law.  Are they requiring prayer during the day?  Again, violation of laws.  Please tell me what they are doing that violates laws against religious teachings in public school.  Better yet, report those violations to the local school board or state board.

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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2010, 07:55:44 PM »

Bobbo,

Yes, the Quran is used as teaching method.

In a community like Dearborn MI, with 85% of the approximately 220K residents being practicing muslims and less than 10% of the school board not being of middle eastern background,....this is now the new norm.

Do a "Goggle search" on "Dearborn" and you will find that this city has the largest Arab-American population outside of any middle eastern country.

As a matter of fact, I'd like you to visit me and I will show you what I am saying is not false.

Send me a PM and we can discuss your visit.
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2010, 08:09:27 AM »

Momz:

If you have documented proof that the Quran is taught in a public school, or prayer is required, you have a duty as a supporter of the Constitution to inform the school board.  The Supreme Court has long held that the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment forbids school-sponsored prayer or religious indoctrination.  You can even contact the local ACLU office, as they have dealt with this many times before.  Write letters and include your documentation to your representatives at the state level.

You would be better served by presenting your case to the authorities than showing me anything.

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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2010, 10:37:47 AM »

The sad thing is that most governmental ruling parties want a common government for everyone with the same currency.  They think that allowing Islam to grow will speed their efforts for global control; and it will but not for the fools pushing us there.  Islam will rule.  As has been stated before they do not bend or conform to society.  They force society to conform to their rules.  We are in trouble, we are in for a bloodbath.  When a group tells us the holocaust didn't happen and we do not teach it because it is being insensitive to their beliefs something is bad wrong with our governments and those we have allowed to run them.  When our police can't go into sections of a city because of islamic law something is wrong.  History repeats itself and the greatest historical document ever written explains it in great detail.  But somehow there are those who prefer to cater to the belief that Islam is a real religion.  There is only one God, if you are smart enough to believe, and islam doesn't pray to him.  If they did, we wouldn't have people dying everyday because of them.
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2010, 05:53:22 PM »

Momz:

If you have documented proof that the Quran is taught in a public school, or prayer is required, you have a duty as a supporter of the Constitution to inform the school board.  The Supreme Court has long held that the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment forbids school-sponsored prayer or religious indoctrination.  You can even contact the local ACLU office, as they have dealt with this many times before.  Write letters and include your documentation to your representatives at the state level.

You would be better served by presenting your case to the authorities than showing me anything.



usually the ACLU only cares if Christian activities are being done. everything else is ok even athesim which by definition is a Religion. Any takeover of a country by a comminist leader the first thing that is done is get rid of all chrisitans or anything to do with christianity. look it up.
 I wonder why I can stand up in a bar and yell any false god's name and tell people to repent in the name of their false god and they will just ignore me, yet if I did the same proclaiming the Lord Jesus Christ's name and tell them to repent they would physically throw me out. hmm think about it.
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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2010, 09:53:43 PM »

usually the ACLU only cares if Christian activities are being done. everything else is ok even athesim which by definition is a Religion. Any takeover of a country by a comminist leader the first thing that is done is get rid of all chrisitans or anything to do with christianity. look it up.

Speaking of 'look it up', Google this: "aclu christian cases"

Communism deplores all religions.  If a communist leader took over a country with a Christian population, of course they would ban it.  That would also go with Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, and all others.
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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2010, 10:05:42 AM »

usually the ACLU only cares if Christian activities are being done. everything else is ok even athesim which by definition is a Religion. Any takeover of a country by a comminist leader the first thing that is done is get rid of all chrisitans or anything to do with christianity. look it up.


Speaking of 'look it up', Google this: "aclu christian cases"

Communism deplores all religions.  If a communist leader took over a country with a Christian population, of course they would ban it.  That would also go with Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, and all others.



http://www.dianedew.com/aclu.htm 

Following are some of the stated goals of the ACLU, from its own published Policy Issues:

the legalization of prostitution (Policy 211);

the defense of all pornography, including CHILD PORN, as "free speech" (Policy 4);

the decriminalization and legalization of all drugs (Policy 210);

the promotion of homosexuality (Policy 264);

the opposition of rating of music and movies (Policy 18);

opposition against parental consent of minors seeking abortion (Policy 262);

opposition of informed consent preceding abortion procedures (Policy 263);

opposition of spousal consent preceding abortion (Policy 262);

opposition of parental choice in children's education (Policy 80)

-- not to mention the defense and promotion of euthanasia, polygamy, government control of church institutions, gun control, tax-funded abortion, birth limitation, etc. (Policies 263, 133, 402, 47, 261, 323, 271, 91, 85).

http://www.aclj.org/Default.aspx
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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2010, 03:33:23 PM »

Now you have finally crossed the line and I am going to have to take you off my christmas card list Bobbo tickedoff  And I call it Christmas because that is what my Christian friends wish to call it, not xmas

Gman thanks for the large type I was able to read your post without my glasses and as usual we are on the same page.  

Here is a suggestion Bobbo since you asked for one and Momz was kind enough to invite you
Go to Detroit and pose as a parent interested in sending his Moslem child to a Moslem school  Then sit in on a class in a  "moslem" school before you question Momz statement  it is going on here in NYC also and teachers who are not moslem are not invited to teach  Where is the ACLU?

I have suggestions  

CLOSE THE BORDER
DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS AS WE ARE AT WAR NOW
END CONGRESSIONAL HEALTH PLAN AND PENSIONS NOW
RAISE PAY FOR ALL MILITARY PERSONNEL
NO CLOSING VA CENTERS UNTIL AFTER THE WAR IS OVER
MANDATORY SERVICE AT 18 IN EITHER THE MILITARY OR CIVILIAN CORPS FOR 2 YEARS
WITH RESERVE FOR 5 YEARS
FREE HEALTHCARE FOR ALL WHO HAVE SERVED AFTER THEIR TOUR IS UP
TARRIFS ON ALL PRODUCTS COMING INTO THE USA AT BELOW COST (ANTI DUMPING STATUTE)


That is just the few I can think of right now
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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2010, 03:42:41 PM »

+1 Oss.  Exactly right.  But, I am sure Bobbo will have some excuse why he cannot go.  He would hate to mess up his preconcieved notions.

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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2010, 10:41:04 AM »

http://www.dianedew.com/aclu.htm 

Following are some of the stated goals of the ACLU, from its own published Policy Issues:

the legalization of prostitution (Policy 211);

the defense of all pornography, including CHILD PORN, as "free speech" (Policy 4);

the decriminalization and legalization of all drugs (Policy 210);

the promotion of homosexuality (Policy 264);

the opposition of rating of music and movies (Policy 18);

opposition against parental consent of minors seeking abortion (Policy 262);

opposition of informed consent preceding abortion procedures (Policy 263);

opposition of spousal consent preceding abortion (Policy 262);

opposition of parental choice in children's education (Policy 80)

-- not to mention the defense and promotion of euthanasia, polygamy, government control of church institutions, gun control, tax-funded abortion, birth limitation, etc. (Policies 263, 133, 402, 47, 261, 323, 271, 91, 85).

http://www.aclj.org/Default.aspx


I looked on the ACLU website, and I don’t see a list of policies that you site.  The link you provided appears to be an anti-ACLU propaganda site hosted by a religious zealot.  I don’t donate to the ACLU, or even give them much thought, but I thought they would be appropriate if you are concerned that religion was taught at a public school. 

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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2010, 10:54:58 AM »

Here is a suggestion Bobbo since you asked for one and Momz was kind enough to invite you
Go to Detroit and pose as a parent interested in sending his Moslem child to a Moslem school  Then sit in on a class in a  "moslem" school before you question Momz statement  it is going on here in NYC also and teachers who are not moslem are not invited to teach  Where is the ACLU?
You would get more attention and action to your cause if you contacted a local TV or radio station to pose as your undercover “Moslem” family.  Where is the ACLU?  Why don’t you contact them and ask?

I have suggestions  

CLOSE THE BORDER
DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS AS WE ARE AT WAR NOW
END CONGRESSIONAL HEALTH PLAN AND PENSIONS NOW
RAISE PAY FOR ALL MILITARY PERSONNEL
NO CLOSING VA CENTERS UNTIL AFTER THE WAR IS OVER
MANDATORY SERVICE AT 18 IN EITHER THE MILITARY OR CIVILIAN CORPS FOR 2 YEARS
WITH RESERVE FOR 5 YEARS
FREE HEALTHCARE FOR ALL WHO HAVE SERVED AFTER THEIR TOUR IS UP
TARRIFS ON ALL PRODUCTS COMING INTO THE USA AT BELOW COST (ANTI DUMPING STATUTE)


That is just the few I can think of right now


Where do you propose we get the huge amount of money needed to implement most of your suggestions?  Are you are in favor of adding and expanding government programs?  Other than the silicone wars of the 80’s, what products are being “dumped” in the US now?

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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2010, 04:31:37 PM »

closing the border and deporting those who are here Without Papers will stop the CONTINUING bloodletting of money going to feed, clothe, house and teach illegals.  It was done in at least 3 prior presidencies and is long overdue
the young people in mandatory service could be creating the fence, building and repairing roads and infrastructure while learning engineering and other vital skills without the LOCAL governments resorting to costly bond issues which have been driving up property taxes. And there is nothing wrong with having a safe and secure border  it promotes good neighbors  MEXICO is NOT a good neighbor  and the govt will be paying for educating those in mandatory service keeping those tax dollars here in the USA, not floating to mexico or central america  here at home we have much that needs to be done.  I thought this was going to be part of obama's agenda but I am mistaken

DUMPING is internationally done by almost all nations that can get away with it
for instance in europe industries are backed by money of the central governments
Steel is one industry that saw demise as anyone in those communities can document for you, lumber is another

Back before everything was made in asia many american industries DIED because the federal gov did not stand up to dumping. This administration has not addressed the issue and to be fair Bush has not either
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