Screwed........again......

[buffalobill]

Steamer,
 I never force my beliefs on anyone I feel are not open or receptive. Since I met you a few years ago and as a casual reader of your exploits, I feel I can say something.  I was "promoted", passed on my vacation to attend this years INZANE to boot. Been with the company 23 years. Only been late 4 times, never been reprimanded or "written up". I have traveled all over the globe for them and often alone. I have stayed in far less expensive rooms than any of my peers, ate at cheaper places as well.
 So anyhow, I was promoted, for 2 weeks. The owners son runs our sister facility out of Houston and decided he wanted to run my territory with one of his guys. I quietly accepted his decision, went back to my old position, sucked it up. It really hurt, but only because I spent time with the Lord, reading His Word did I find out what I needed to know. "promotion comes from the Lord". You will only get what you can handle and only when the time is right with Him. I tried getting that position in my own power and through process. I will be promoted if and when He says so. I will continue to be the very best at a job position I dislike and feel overqualified for, to bring Glory to my Lord.
 I said all that to say this. Whenever someone asks me "what do you do"; I answer this...
I love my wife, Donna, and cherish her. I protect my children, Joshua and Ryan. I pray to the Lord and serve him wherever he sends me, and oh yeah, I do (job description here) to make the money to tithe and support my family.
 my .02 cents

buffalobill

[Robert]

Stanely first buffalo has it right But I would also add be happy in whatever position your in and do it as unto the Lord. Your job has alot of benefits and you touch alot of peoples lives in ways you may not always see. As a simple example I looked at the Christmas decorations that you put up and thought how great that looks. I really miss that around here that they dont care enough to make them that nice. The other thing is you didn't do all your things on your job to be only the best you can. You did it with a purpose of being promoted and it must have been very important to both you and your wife. Her probably because it was so important to you. I have a job that I will never get a promotion, I own my own buisness so unless I do something there is no promotion but what I find satisfaction with is every person that comes across my door step I try to do the best I can to make them happy. When I see that they return, refer customers or just plain come and ask me questions that is my reward. It s a little different than a promotion and something you need to think about. If you did all the things you do to suck up get the promotion or be noticed then your motives were not right. That is the real work ethic if you did your job in a vacuum and there was no real reward from any bosses would you still feel and do the same things? If you answered no or it takes away part of the joy then examine your motives. Stanley you are really blessed and need to step back and really look at all you have and can do. The shed and furniture you built the plantings to make things look beautiful and  a loving wife that is on board with what makes you happy and so much more. You cannot believe how many lives you touch down to even the work crews. Stop your certification what nonsense there's a life after this work your doing now or maybe in addition to. If you retire as so many with government jobs do you can start your own buisness with enough credentials and pics now to prove what you can do. I personally know quite a few people that would love to have their property landscaped and taken care of with pride and joy that you exhibit. When I stand back and see that my plants are blooming and all can see them I think to myself good job and get real satisfaction in that. Plus I also know as people pass by they think how beautiful and that they take joy in something beautiful. Art really doesn't have but one purpose to make people admire that object of art so it is with planting and seasonal changes. You have been passed over before and that should have been enough of a warning about this time. Government jobs are notoriously political or favors or whatever just not what they are supposed to be. As a last note prayer would have made a difference and to be close to the Lord He may have told you what was going to happen. If I were you I would broaden my horizons dont limit your world to being dependent on your current bosses to acknowledge your value but start to take that acknowledgment in your work in maybe branching out into so many possibilities that you have. I personally think when you have a creative and driven person that in the light of a government job that creativity is not used nor appreciated to its fullest. You could go out today and make your own buisness because you have the talents you do. That is why our government is the way it is now. Talent,creativity,uniqueness are not going to be rewarded in a government job unless you have a unusual situation. You have probably made your superiors lives hell because they know how much you wanted this position and they knew what they were going to do and probably worried about your reaction. All for what, if you thought that they were your friends you found the point there not and forget about trying to go behind the scenes and do a investigation as to why you didn't get it and make people nervous its not worth it, really! its not. Love what your doing just for the results without any acknowledgment from bosses, look at peoples reaction to what you do broaden your horizons and pray more and I think that you will actually count this a blessing. Personal quirkiness is always accepted when that person is creative or just plain good on the job.

[Robert]

How you handle people and jobs and relationships has less to do with them and more about a personal commitment to yourself

If you give people the power to affirm your life then you have given them power over your life

That is why affirmation or condemnation should come from only one source the Lord your maker who all will appear in front of.

[Stanley Steamer]

How you handle people and jobs and relationships has less to do with them and more about a personal commitment to yourself

If you give people the power to affirm your life then you have given them power over your life

That is why affirmation or condemnation should come from only one source the Lord your maker who all will appear in front of.

Wow Robert.......you MISSED the mark BIG TIME in how you interpreted my replies.....really big time....

First and foremost.....I NEVER.....and I DO mean NEVER, spent  my time and money learning all I could about my industry and getting the certifications in it for the SOLE purpose to obtain ANY promotion.....it's because I feel that ANYONE who CARES enough about their profession should WANT and be COMPELLED internally to know all they can about it...and because this IS what I like to do.....No one else where I work, other than my immediate Boss and the Landscape Mngr., has the same qualifications....30 other folks haven't ever felt the need, or inclination to do much more than punch in and go home after 8hrs....just the paycheck.....and I can guarantee you they all know my dedication to the job and to being the best at it I can be....I have had some very good Groundskeepers working with me that have been promoted to Crewleaders and that have told me that I set a good example to their work ethic.....it's because I LOVED my job!!.....Like I said in an earlier reply....I have always worked to please MYSELF....NOT others BECAUSE, I knew that if I could satisfy myself on a job well done, EVERYONE else would be pleased too.....and that seems to have always been the case......my pay has more than doubled in the nearly 15 yrs I have been here and I have passed all but ONE person in salary because he was one paygrade higher for 10 yrs before I even got there...two guys in particular come to mind....one has been there 5 yrs longer than me and the other 10 yrs longer.....

So yeah, I have had a very good personal commitment to myself and it has rubbed off on others and that's what makes me a little bitter when I see myself get passed over so that the Mngt can give their Buddy a Bailout when his business isn't working........

I've never been about getting rich.....I grew up in a poor Family- money wise, and I put myself through College with very, very little help from anyone else.....my Dad taught me to work hard for what I wanted....they fed me, loved me, and gave me a roof over my head....anything else I got was by the sweat of MY brow.....no cars from Mommy and Daddy, no insurance being paid, no gas $$ to drive around....but I appreciated it that much more because I provided my own.....I was 29 yrs old before I got my first new car and I worked hard to get it.....

I could or could have started my own business....I've helped other friends with theirs from time to time, but all of them had it put a severe strain on their Family with all the time it took to get it up and running....several of them closed it down and that was before the current financial meltdown stuff.....since $$ has never been my #1 priority, I have been using my skills to serve my community where I live knowing it'd never make me rich....I don't even need a pat on the back for a job well done and I've told my Boss that many times....I've consistently gotten the best performance evaluations just because my inner drive has always had me giving 110%.....the Manager even told me that my 70% was better than others 100%....my "validation" for all the years I've been a very faithful and diligent employee would have been to have gotten promoted....but alas, all the Mngr. has proven to the other guys at work is that the Good-Old-Boy system is more important than hard work and dedication and loyalty......and THAT"S why my Wife lost her cool the other day and told me I should slow down and not hurt myself physicaly anymore....this coming from a woman who has never called in sick ONCE in the 15yrs+ she's worked at her bank.....she is a hard worker there and has seen the same type things happen....when she told me she'd "lost faith in humanity", it about floored me....

[Stanley Steamer]

No offense meant, Stanley, and I do intend this in the kindest way.

I've never spoken with someone who was passed over for promotion who wasn't the "best man for the job".  It just looks different depending entirely upon where one is sitting (or standing).

I've missed out on a number of promotions over the years.  Usually after some review I found that it wasn't necessarily because somebody had it in his heart to screw me over (although I am, at times difficult to like), but more often than not I found it was simply that I was standing in the wrong line.

Good fortune to you at your job.  I hope you can continue to enjoy what you do or begin to do what you enjoy.  We spend far too much time on the job to be bitter or unhappy there.

You're ALL too kind Carl.....I do enjoy my job....even loved it most of the time.....and still do for the most part.....it only gets a little dicey when the big boss admits to you 4 years ago that the reason he promoted another guy over me at the last minute was because they needed to "throw a bone" to another Dept that that job deals with by giving them someone they are already familiar with(although most of his employees and the other Dept's don't like him now or then for that matter)...and that he thought MY Boss would get moved up to the County Forester position so that it'd leave a place for ME to move to shortly thereafter.....well, an Intern fresh out of school and still wet behind the ears got that Forester position when my Boss backed away from it when she saw how I'd been hoodwinked at the last minute....kinda like a house of cards that all fell down with me being the odd man out and under all their weight.... .....it'd have been MUCH easier to swallow had I lost out to someone who had had the same commitment, education, loyalty, and work ethic that I possessed rather than for the reasons listed above.....but thanks for pointing out that I may have been standing in the wrong line.....

[Stanley Steamer]

OK Stanley now it's time to put on your big girl pannies and do your job.    Being the "Go to guy" only means they go to you now.....Think about it. If you die today your job will continue on as if you were never there. And there are many thousands of people who are not working that will do your job for much less than you make now.....Be THANKFUL you have what you have. 

Thank you Mark for pointing out what I have already figured out....actually figured that one out 4 years ago....and I think that's why a couple of ppl close to me have told me to slow the hell down and look at this as just a job.....a means to a paycheck, and nothing else....I think I've figured it out pretty good now.....but just so we're clear and like I pointed out below, I AM thankful for having a job at all, and especially this one.....I was only hoping for that promotion to be able to maybe prove to some other up and coming fireballs that hard work and dedication actually means something at the end of the day......

[the inspector]

Stan....I said it once and I'll say it again, YOUR THE MAN. Enjoy your life, we only go around once.....I think! Don't fret, you have many talents, Mean bike rider, party guy, wood worker, landscaper and I'm sure many more. Have fun, keep riding that FAT GIRL and I hope we'll meet up again sometime.

"the inspector"

I'm sure you have made all of us laugh at one time or another, your a good guy.

[big turkey]

I always find be yourself and put others first, instead of yourself, believe it or not works out better.


Successful people always help others.

This is a principal that I have used time and time again, with good results.

The help you give is usually free to you, in other words costs you nothing and means

a great deal to the one you are helping.

This does not mean just help your Boss, but those around you.

It could also mean helping the one who just got promoted.

If you could make yourself do that, instead of hoping for that person to fall flat on his face.

It would show a important person above you that there is more to Stanley Steamer than

he can do a good job.

It might get you more than you ever dreamed of.

In fact a Good Name is worth more than Gold.



Al

[the inspector]

Big Al.....I never met you but I do like your post's. You are so right, true words for sure. I'm sure you know everytime you do a good deed it comes back ten times to you, in one way or another. Our family here is a pretty smart group of people and I'm sure we all have our own ways of dealing with things. But your words are very true!

"the inspector"

I do hope to meet you sometime in the future, ride safe Brother!

[Stanley Steamer]

I always find be yourself and put others first, instead of yourself, believe it or not works out better.


Successful people always help others.

This is a principal that I have used time and time again, with good results.

The help you give is usually free to you, in other words costs you nothing and means

a great deal to the one you are helping.

This does not mean just help your Boss, but those around you.

It could also mean helping the one who just got promoted.

If you could make yourself do that, instead of hoping for that person to fall flat on his face.

It would show a important person above you that there is more to Stanley Steamer than

he can do a good job.

It might get you more than you ever dreamed of.

In fact a Good Name is worth more than Gold.



Al

Al my good man, my good name at work is about all I have left.....I guarantee you that you'd get a 98+% rating on that from my fellow employees...out of about 38 total folks, only about 3 supported the Boss's decision the LAST time around...and the Big Boss and the one promoted was 2 of that #.... ......that was a small comfort for sure...

But, I do and have helped them, a lot......in FACT,...I'm the one that sometimes gets pulled out of my buildings work unit to do tricky or specialized pruning jobs in the ROW work unit.....that just isn't right or how it should work...their new Man can teach them how to do it now...... .....cause I guess the Forestor is too busy to bring them up to snuff on how it's properly done......

 

[Stanley Steamer]

Stan....I said it once and I'll say it again, YOUR THE MAN. Enjoy your life, we only go around once.....I think! Don't fret, you have many talents, Mean bike rider, party guy, wood worker, landscaper and I'm sure many more. Have fun, keep riding that FAT GIRL and I hope we'll meet up again sometime.

"the inspector"

I'm sure you have made all of us laugh at one time or another, your a good guy.

Thanks.......I've just come to the realization that good guys DO finish last......most times....

[solo1]

Stan, there are a lot of friends here that emphathize with you, me included.  Keep on keepin'
Sometimes you have to smile when you don't want to.

I do remember an instance after I was passed over for a supervisor's position as I mentioned.  I continued working as an associate engineer and gained a reputation as being able to work with management and Union people alike.  On this particular day I was taking around a Request for Expenditures and explaining to the upper management why our department needed to spend $800,000 dollars and would they please sign off on it.  I got back to the department well pleased with myself  and feeling cocky that I managed to convince no less than four upper management wheels that we needed to spend this amount.

When I got back, I was called in to do another assignment.  I was asked to contact facility maintenance to send a plumber down to fix the men's urinal as it was overflowing.   Seems like I had the reputation of being on the good side of the union people so i could get things done quicker than any in our department.  I had a good laugh on myself but a nice kind on laugh.

It seems to me, you have the same reputation yourself, the ability to work with people.  Not everyone has that ability as you don't acquire it by education.  Hang in there Stan!

wayne

[Robert]

.I am feeling the same way....my heart was into my job 110% up until 2006 when I had the last promotion snatched away at the last minute due to a "political" consideration that the Big Boss admitted to after the fact....today's decision may have been close to it being for a similar reason.....no hard proof of that though......

I've done that Mike.....but my heart has just about had it.....I have never worked to "please" others, only myself....and I've thrown myself into it MUCH too hard at times....I figured that if I could please myself, then my Boss and others would be pleased too.....and that turned out to be true...too true it looks like..... Sad Sad......Abby told me I need to step back, slow down, and let the Inmates and other guys take some more of the load from me....she's worried about the effect it's had on my health here lately.....
   

Pick a job you LOVE, and you'll never work a day in your life"....well, all this time I thought I was building a career, it turns out it's only a job, especially in their eyes.....guess I need to think hard about where I place my priorities now....Family and Friends are at the top of my list from now on.......and you are in the Friend list.....your opinion is always welcomed Wayne.....I can credit my Father with showing me what a good work ethic was all about and for respecting my Elders.....I fear the younger generation has gone a different route in many cases......thank you for your reply..... cooldude

The American Dream that if a Man works hard, gets a good education, is honest and ethical, treats his peers with respect, and learns all he can about his profession is obviously bullshit in most cases.....or in my experience at least..... Sad Sad Sad Sad

.I was only hoping for that promotion to be able to maybe prove to some other up and coming fireballs that hard work and dedication actually means something at the end of the day...... cooldude

Stan these are all your quotes

 I never said you did solely for them or money. If you really did it just for you though we wouldn't be hearing about all this.  When you retire from this with pay you can start your own buisness because you will have the finances to do it. Plus if you take some energy and do it now it will give you a start and maybe you'll wind up quitting if things do well. Just because other have started buisness and failed doesn't mean you cant make it. A life lived like yours already shows the reward to others and its not all about work.

[stormrider]

It seems, Stanley, that in some cases, in the public and private job sector, scum rises to the top. Not to say the guy who got the job is scum.

However, if he was in the commercial or even homeowner landscape business and couldn't make it he quite possibly want make it in this new job. And if you're tired of being passed over, work for yourself. I have for about 30 years. Could've had the gov't retirement goin now, worked for GA DOT right out of highschool in 72. But never would've had the experiences and met the people I've met otherwise.

Plus, as your own boss, you can take vacation/riding days as needed. I started a regular paying job working for someone else two months ago and am stressing more that I've ever stressed. And we know stress  is a killer.


If you're doing what you love and can accept the BS that goes along with the job, just chalk it up to someone brown nosing when you won't do it even if given the chance. In the long run, you're the winner.


I got in some great miles this weekend going to my brothers in Talbot County. I'd love to make a ride up to Madison some time soon.

[R J]

SS, you seem like a nice guy.  Question, are you sure you want all the headaches?

Trust me, someone else is making them above you and you do as hey say or want, right.   If ya enjoy the job, tough it out, otherwise get out of the field.

Now seriously,  All decisions are made by the lad upstairs, through your mangers.  I'd say there was a reason why you never got it made by him and that something better or easier will come along.

So, just set back and enjoy.

I was in Management several times, at 1st it was fun, then it got to be a pain in the arse.

I got my 1st type of management when I was about 20 years old.     I was a Technical/Sergeant in the Marine Corps    It was one of those deals where I was in the right place at the right time and got promoted.     Made me very non-trusting of management back then.       I later started a job at the bottom and worked up the hard way, learned more and had a lot more confidence in my decisions.      So just relax and let it roll off the shoulders.

[big turkey]

You may not have gotten the job, but we all like you.

Maybe we can do a benefit ride to make you feel a little better.

Al

[the inspector]

Now thats a great idea.....wish I could be there.

"the inspector"

[Duckwheat]

Why don't you go and ask why you did not get the job?  Are you prepared to hear the answer?

You stated a bunch of things that you have done to get yourself prepared. How does the organization feel about what you have done? Do they value them?

Why don't you ask them where you need to be (skills) the next time an opportunity opens up? Then you are the guy they are asking? Why don't you ask for a Biannual review to make sure you are on track?

DW

[Garfield]

Well I would reather loose a promotion, then loose my job after 12+ years due to the company going under because of the economy. I will be lucky to have my job by the end of the year. I made my boss millions during the good times, and now he has already turned against me this past week blaming me for the looses.

[Valkahuna]

Well I would reather loose a promotion, then loose my job after 12+ years due to the company going under because of the economy. I will be lucky to have my job by the end of the year. I made my boss millions during the good times, and now he has already turned against me this past week blaming me for the looses.

Garfield,

That sucks! This whole "what have you done for me lately" thing is a real sign of the times.

Stanley, as for you and being passed over, I suggest you get a grip and get on with your life and your job. Nobody owes you anything but a paycheck, and in today's economy God Bless you if you are getting paid, and benefits. I hate to put it like that, but it's a fact. Besides, if you mope around, that will take all your energy, and there is only so much in our bodies. May as well use what we've got for positive things.

[fudgie]

sometimes its better you dont get promoted. At least it is around here. With the cuts we take they actually get rid of the management/desk type personel over us street workers. They 'forced' our billing/paramedic lady out 2 weeks ago. Made her retire. She has been here since the 1st real ambulance service took shape back in the mid 70's. Sucky way to treat a 33+ yr worker.
some times is better to lay back, keep up with the good work you do now  , and stay under the radar.

I specifically asked about the job security of that position and was assured it wouldn't be on the chopping block.......here's something I copied from a news story today....I guess it doesn't apply to Govt. workers.....

Thats what our boss told her the day before she was axed. 

[Varmintmist]

The American Dream that if a Man works hard, gets a good education, is honest and ethical, treats his peers with respect, and learns all he can about his profession is obviously bullshit in most cases.....or in my experience at least.....

While I am with you about not getting the promotion and it sux that you didnt get it, gotta fly a BS flag on this. You can always do better in your chosen profession, no one ever said that you would do better there. You made the choice to work for the state. The state is a political org. and everyone knows that going in. If you choose to work for anyone except yourself, then you choose to work by their rules at their whim. There is nothing different about that now as 100 years ago. The company you work for owes you a check for work performed, nothing more.

If you want to be in charge, then stick a sign on your own truck door and go for it. Then you make it or not and you are waiting for no one to decide that you are good enough. You want the rewards, then you have to take the chances. If you do succeed, then the govt. will tax the snot out of you because you did the extra work and took the risk that 99% of people are afraid to.

I grew up in a family business that started when my father realized that he would go no higher without the same last name as the owner in the company he was working for. We ate a lot of spaghetti from tomatoes grown at home for 5 years. Then we were "rich" according to people who just had jobs while he worked about 18 hours a day and everyone in the family had a part.

You can excel as far as you want to take the risk for. You are in a job because its safe.

edit,
So am I.
I know what it takes to be your own boss and I can't do that right now, don't know if I ever will. I chose that someone else pays part of the health, the retirement, the taxes. I choose to have time off after the work day is done. I choose to be able to walk away from work at 1630, OR work OT if it is available. I choose to be able to take vacation mostly when I want to.
That doesn't happen when you are self employed, IF you want to be successful.

[Stanley Steamer]

The American Dream that if a Man works hard, gets a good education, is honest and ethical, treats his peers with respect, and learns all he can about his profession is obviously bullshit in most cases.....or in my experience at least.....

While I am with you about not getting the promotion and it sux that you didnt get it, gotta fly a BS flag on this. You can always do better in your chosen profession, no one ever said that you would do better there. You made the choice to work for the state. The state is a political org. and everyone knows that going in. If you choose to work for anyone except yourself, then you choose to work by their rules at their whim. There is nothing different about that now as 100 years ago. The company you work for owes you a check for work performed, nothing more.

If you want to be in charge, then stick a sign on your own truck door and go for it. Then you make it or not and you are waiting for no one to decide that you are good enough. You want the rewards, then you have to take the chances. If you do succeed, then the govt. will tax the snot out of you because you did the extra work and took the risk that 99% of people are afraid to.

I grew up in a family business that started when my father realized that he would go no higher without the same last name as the owner in the company he was working for. We ate a lot of spaghetti from tomatoes grown at home for 5 years. Then we were "rich" according to people who just had jobs while he worked about 18 hours a day and everyone in the family had a part.

You can excel as far as you want to take the risk for. You are in a job because its safe.

edit,
So am I.
I know what it takes to be your own boss and I can't do that right now, don't know if I ever will. I chose that someone else pays part of the health, the retirement, the taxes. I choose to have time off after the work day is done. I choose to be able to walk away from work at 1630, OR work OT if it is available. I choose to be able to take vacation mostly when I want to.
That doesn't happen when you are self employed, IF you want to be successful.

If you've read all my posts, you'll see I addressed this issue below....I know I am limiting my earning ability by working for the local Govt......I have enough friends who started(and also closed) businesses because of the strain on their Family time and I realize there's a trade-off...I never said I wanted to be "rich"....but I have given them a 110% to which anyone at work could attest to....but that doesn't mean squat when the Big Boss wants to give his buddy a "bailout".....

[Stanley Steamer]

Why don't you go and ask why you did not get the job?  Are you prepared to hear the answer?

You stated a bunch of things that you have done to get yourself prepared. How does the organization feel about what you have done? Do they value them?

Why don't you ask them where you need to be (skills) the next time an opportunity opens up? Then you are the guy they are asking? Why don't you ask for a Biannual review to make sure you are on track?

DW

The "organization" is the one who placed me in a "Succession/Advancement" program and when something of a political problem came up at the last minute, all of a sudden it was just a "trial program"...I spent 4-5yrs taking class after class.....I was in a 3 month Supervisor Training program and took the certification test at the end with one of the highest scores in a class of 25 or so other Govt. Dept. employees....I jumped through every hoop there was...

We do have performance evaluations...two a year and I have without fail been at the top every time....I make more than all but one guy who was a paygrade above me for the ~15yrs I've been here.....I passed up guys who've been there 20+ years.....

As far as knowing why I didn't get the job, many of the guys at work today, including 3 others who put in for the promotion, figured out the reason why....a buddy bailout.....once again, the "who ya know more than what you know" rules the day again.....I'd say the Manager has pretty much lost what little respect our guys ever had for him.....

[Varmintmist]

but I have given them a 110% to which anyone at work could attest to....but that doesn't mean squat when the Big Boss wants to give his buddy a "bailout"

Thats the deal though. 

Been there done that went and through the blame game like you are for a while. You trade the ability to make decisions for yourself for security.

I went for a job in house that I was THE ONLY ONE qualified for according to their requirements and I wanted it bad. I did everything to prep myself to get the job that I could. I didn't get it. Eventually I took a transfer to the other side of the state to get the heck out of there.
I bid a different job that I wanted. Did that for about 5 years with a short supervisor position tossed in (not at this company on a bet) and bid another which was a mistake for me, took almost 7 years to bid out of that and into the one I have now which is pretty much one that keeps me outside and used all the skills that I have from each job. If I didnt have to deal with the support "systems" and "teams" it would be pretty near 100%.

[Robert]

Congratulations Steamer you made it into the whiners club. Yea its a tough break and yea the guy that came in is going to have a hard time and your happy about it. What a whiner, with all you have this is the focal point of your life. Get a grip and go on you will be fine.If you enjoy your job and have a good work ethic nows the time to show it.its really easy to have a good work ethic in easy times not so easy when you dont get your way, so be helpful to he new guy and really show a good ethic. How about taking the smiley off the last post about respect. Its never a good thing to wish someone bad.

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Stanley as you know I work for the local county as a school bus driver.

The past 16 months have been a real eye opener to the inept and inefficent way this Dept is run. A recent job posting was broadcast over the closed communication system for one vacancy. No job description was available nor was there a definite amount of hours to be worked in a week.



I found out yesterday that in fact there were 4 positions available and surprise, surprise they had all been filled.



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I have left 3 voice mails and 3 email enquiries with the GA Dept of Labor trying to clarify whether my employer should by law state the hours worked in a month on the pay stubs we receive. I'm an hourly employee and the amount of hours worked in any one pay period does vary slightly.



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Wanting to see how the system works I applied for Food Stamps - NO I WASN'T GOING TO TAKE THEM IF APPROVED. Being a single white male I was curious as to how the application process worked. It seemed my monthly wage qualified me so I filled in an online application. Received a phone call with instructions to fax pay stubs, Social Security card etc etc. which i did.



After 6 weeks I received a letter telling me my application had been rejected because I didn't attend an interview appointment and that in fact I had missed 3 such interviews. I immediately called the phone number listed on the letter only to find the mail box was full.



I then called that number 21 more times. Some times the mail box was full other times a female voice told me my call would be answered in 24 to 48 hours and to have a blessed day. I also wrote 4 letters explaining I had never received any information about an interview appointment.





My disdain for governemnt has grown so much that I can't describe it. And they wonder why folks go postal

[Robert]

Britman if I were you Id take it if you can get it. Learn to work the system like all seem to do

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Britman if I were you Id take it if you can get it. Learn to work the system like all seem to do

That's what seperates me from the rest of the herd.

[Robert]

Every one needs a little help sometimes and food stamps are just that a little help it doesnt make someone who needs help a mooch. You want to pull your weight and are out looking just the kind of person that should have help not the ones that make being a mooch their work.