To Pingel or not to Pingel.....

[Strider]

Ok, now that HG and Daniel have scared me about turning some guys that I have grown fond of over the last 53 years into crispy creams, I guess I need to order a replacement petcock.  The Pingle looks like a good replacement.  Just wondering for those who use it, do I need to order any additional o rings or anything for fitment and how do you like them?  One bummer is I guess you have to do away with the chrome engine hanger and valve knob on the left side.  Anyone like Truckracer make a replacement cover of any kind?  Also, do you have to order any kind of extension knob or anything to get it to stick out far enough? PS - I have already done the petcock mod, so there is no vacuum line to my petcock - I suppose this is not needed correct?

Any help is greatly appreciated.  If I just order the fuel valve (1311) (in chrome of course) is that all I need to order?

[Chrisj CMA]

Strider..........get the Pingel, its ready to go as it comes.....all you might need is a very small hose clamp (the kind wiht the screw tghtening thinggy because the main fuel line will fit too loosely on the Pingel, but having that clamp is great when it comes time to remove the tank....just loosen the screw and it jumps off for you , no more prying it off.

I got the non vacuum one and it only took a few rides to form a solid habit of turning the thing off with the key and on with the key........I make it a two handed motion every time turn ingnition with right hand and turn pingel on with left......off same way every time, dont even think about it anymore

[Daniel Meyer]

Note with the pingel your reserve is significantly reduced...I think it's reserve will take a valk at highway speed just slightly further than you can spit.

There's a mod for that though...

[SANDMAN5]

I never turn my Pingel off....I know I probably should. The reserve IS reduced,
but you have farther to go before you get to reserve. I usually stop every
100-125 miles anyway.  

[Sourdough]

Strider:
Eastern Performance has what you're looking for on sale now...

http://www.easternperformance.com/products.php?product=Pingel-Hex-Chrome-90-Degree-Forward-Petcock-for-Harley

use coupon code BF2010 for an xtra 5% off.. about $81 shipped to you..

I just ordered one a couple of days ago....

[Sludge]

I think it's reserve will take a valk at highway speed just slightly further than you can spit.

There's a mod for that though...

LOL thats pretty good Daniel.  BTW, where is info on that mod if ya dont mind.  I run one on my supercharged bike and would like to look into that mod.  I havent ever ran out of fuel, but its always good to be on the safe side esp with that gas hog.

[ptgb]

You can leave your engine hanger covers on with the Pingel. I left my OEM fuel selector attached at the cover it just connects to nothing where it used to attach to the petcock. It doesn't get in the way of the Pingel.

I actually use the fuel selector as a guide;  right to the Pingel handle underneath. Really comes in handy while moving.

[R J]

You can leave your engine hanger covers on with the Pingel. I left my OEM fuel selector attached at the cover it just connects to nothing where it used to attach to the petcock. It doesn't get in the way of the Pingel.

I actually use the fuel selector as a guide;  right to the Pingel handle underneath. Really comes in handy while moving.

Post a picture..........    Pictures tell a lot of information.

[Daniel Meyer]

I think it's reserve will take a valk at highway speed just slightly further than you can spit.

There's a mod for that though...

LOL thats pretty good Daniel.  BTW, where is info on that mod if ya dont mind.  I run one on my supercharged bike and would like to look into that mod.  I havent ever ran out of fuel, but its always good to be on the safe side esp with that gas hog.

Not sure...I'll search around a bit...it's been on the board a couple times...sweat a bronze tube on it..(I'll hunt later)

[Tundra]

  Go Pingle and don't look back, be done with it.
As for reserve being less, your milage per tank is the same so who cares? Monitor your milage and fill up accordingly.

[Hoser]

I never turn my Pingel off....I know I probably should. The reserve IS reduced,
but you have farther to go before you get to reserve. I usually stop every
100-125 miles anyway.  

If you never turn off your pingel you are at a higher risk for a hydro lock than if you use the stock petcock.  The fuel is free to flow whether the bike is running or not.  I woud not see a reason to have a manual petcock if you don't use it.  I am old enough to remember when ther was no such thing as a vacumn petcock, so I have no problem remembering to open and close my pingel, it was standard procedure when I started riding.  Hoser  ???

[ptgb]

You can leave your engine hanger covers on with the Pingel. I left my OEM fuel selector attached at the cover it just connects to nothing where it used to attach to the petcock. It doesn't get in the way of the Pingel.

I actually use the fuel selector as a guide;  right to the Pingel handle underneath. Really comes in handy while moving.

Post a picture..........    Pictures tell a lot of information.

Just kept the selector connected where it sandwiches between the engine hanger cover and the engine hanger:






Here is the Pingel from underneath. The top of the picture is the selector switch arm that usually connects to the OEM petcock.  As you can see, I am able to run my fingers across the selector switch arm and it leads me right to the Pingel...





Works well for me and it throws people when they see me riding with the selector switch in all kinds of odd positions...

[bassman]

This may help.....



Posted By: Þrúðr
Date: 5/2/2006 at 18:23:08

In Response To: I have a fix for the Pingel (Þrúðr)





Take a look at your Pingel valve. It has a screen to fit in the fuel tank. Inside the screen (hold it to the light if you need) is a pick-up tube. There’s also a hole in the bottom of the valve. The hole serves reserve fuel, while the pickup tube serves the “On” position. You can see your reserve amount, expressed in inches. It’s the difference in height between the bottom of the tank (the hole) and the height of the pick-up tube. That tube needs to be taller. Now look at your OEM petcock. See how the pick-up tube is longer on it? If the Pingel’s tube were the same height, the reserve quantity would be the same.
The height of the OEM petcock’s pick-up tube is 3.350”
Now, what you need to do is extend the Pingel pick-up tube. Here’s one way- there are quite a few ways to get this done.
Get an inline fuel filter and put it under the tank. Pingel sells one. There are lots of them out there. I kinda like clear ones, you can see when they are getting fouled, but they are more susceptible to leaking and/or damage. You need the inline filter because you will have to penetrate or destroy the screen on the inlet tube of the Pingel valve.
Now, pull the screen off the Pingel inlet. Go down to the local hobby shop. They have small brass tubing there. Get some the same size as your pick-up tube. You could also buy it to just slip over the pick-up tube. Now cut a piece to fit, and attach it. Some low-temp solder would do it. Some 2 part epoxy would do it. I haven’t tried it, but some shrink-wrap for electrical wires might do it. I’d be afraid the shrink-wrap might melt in the fuel, so I don’t recommend that one.
Put it back together! You’re done! Can you believe it was that simple!

 

[big turkey]

Harley has some 2011 Models for any of you that may be tired of Pingeling.

Goldwing has some nice offerings as well.

BMW is a last resort to all those that don't want to pingel.

Just say no,,,,,,,,,,,,,, to new technology I guess then.

Because Honda ain't bringin it back is all I am saying.

Al

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[SANDMAN5]

If you never turn off your pingel you are at a higher risk for a hydro lock than if you use the stock petcock.  The fuel is free to flow whether the bike is running or not.  I woud not see a reason to have a manual petcock if you don't use it.  I am old enough to remember when ther was no such thing as a vacumn petcock, so I have no problem remembering to open and close my pingel, it was standard procedure when I started riding.  Hoser 

Yeah, thats why I said "I know I should". Funny, I used to turn it off all the time. Not
sure why I quit. Would the gas left in the fuel line be enough to hydrolock anyway?

[highcountry]

  Go Pingle and don't look back, be done with it.
As for reserve being less, your milage per tank is the same so who cares? Monitor your milage and fill up accordingly.

+1  That's the way that I do.  I just leave it on reserve and fill up at around 100 miles.  Also, I just left the original selector knob in place but that will gives one a great place to mount a Stebil horn.  When installing my Pingel, I also installed Red Eye's quick disconnect fuel line kit to make air filter replacement easier in the future.

[Hoser]

If you never turn off your pingel you are at a higher risk for a hydro lock than if you use the stock petcock.  The fuel is free to flow whether the bike is running or not.  I woud not see a reason to have a manual petcock if you don't use it.  I am old enough to remember when ther was no such thing as a vacumn petcock, so I have no problem remembering to open and close my pingel, it was standard procedure when I started riding.  Hoser 

Yeah, thats why I said "I know I should". Funny, I used to turn it off all the time. Not
sure why I quit. Would the gas left in the fuel line be enough to hydrolock anyway?

Don't know if thats enough, but not to take any chances, I usually turn off the pingle a mile or two away from home, and use most of the fuel left by the time I pull in.  Guess I'm kinda anal about that.  hoser

[fudgie]

Go for it. You have seen alot of the US, would you like to be stranded in some of them parts? Since your bike sits alot while gone I think that would take its toll on the oem one.