Re: Dear US Citizens, I must sadly inform you (not motorcyle related)

[Bobbo]

I would feel a lot better if ALL, repeat ALL, of our leaders, Senators and Congressman (and women) including Pelosi, Napalitano, Reed, Holder, Biden, Obama etc. would lead by example and subject themselves to this identical scanning, in a public forum, regardless of whether they fly on public or government supplied aircraft each and EVERY time they fly.  "Good enough for the goose then good enough for the gander"

It is ironic that you specifically mention only Democratic politicians, since the TSA and Homeland Security were formed under a Republican administration… 

[SANDMAN5]

It is ironic that you specifically mention only Democratic politicians, since the TSA and Homeland Security were formed under a Republican administration…

Did the Rep admin place the scanners? Would you have even noticed (or mentioned)
if only Reps were named?

[Bobbo]

Only jumping in for the medical viewpoint.

Women of reproductive age, and/or sexually active, shouldn't go through those scanning machines.  If they must fly, they should know when their last menstrual cycle began and limit the radiation exposure to the first 12 days of their cycle.  Airport and airline employees should not be doing this on a daily basis as a requirement to get to work.  The x-ray techs and radiologists hide behind lead aprons and walls in the hospital, but the TSA thinks it's just fine to subject travelers and employees to radiation on a daily basis???    

Medical X-ray equipment and backscatter X-Ray screeners are quite different in their design, application, and radiation levels.  Medical X-ray equipment is designed to penetrate tissue at a level sufficient to distinguish tissue density.  That requires a fairly high, concentrated dose.  Backscatter X-ray uses a substantially smaller level of diffused radiation, which is reflected back from the surface of the subject, and does not penetrate tissue as a medical X-ray does.  Not all body scanners use X-ray.  Some use near-infrared light to accomplish a similar image.

[Bobbo]

It is ironic that you specifically mention only Democratic politicians, since the TSA and Homeland Security were formed under a Republican administration…

Did the Rep admin place the scanners? Would you have even noticed (or mentioned)
if only Reps were named?

Since Reps established it, and if only Reps were mentioned, then it wouldn’t be ironic, would it?

[PAVALKER]

I would feel a lot better if ALL, repeat ALL, of our leaders, Senators and Congressman (and women) including Pelosi, Napalitano, Reed, Holder, Biden, Obama etc. would lead by example and subject themselves to this identical scanning, in a public forum, regardless of whether they fly on public or government supplied aircraft each and EVERY time they fly.  "Good enough for the goose then good enough for the gander"

It is ironic that you specifically mention only Democratic politicians, since the TSA and Homeland Security were formed under a Republican administration…  

I think he clearly stated ALL, repeat ALL, of our leaders, Senators and Congressman (and women)... then he went on to include those more familiar "current" politicians by name which are in fact democrats.  By stating ALL , I'm pretty sure he was including Republicans, Independents as well as Democrats.... and by specifically citing those by name I think meant that he didn't want to exclude them... or have them exclude themselves.... since the "body scanner" is being implemented on "their watch" so to speak.  But that is just how I read it....

Aside from that, why is it that you only seem to get excited and bring a political, legal or religious twist/argument on things... or only respond and stir the pot in those types of posts??  I wasted some time and checked your stats and you only have 2 posts on this Tech Board and the remainder on this General Board, most of which are not Valkyrie or even motorcycle related.

In reviewing  your posts, I have not seen you post any positive or helpful Valkyrie (or MC) related informative contributions to other members on the board in quite some time, but you are most quick to post in any legal/religious/political and similar flavored posts. And you yourself originated and argued in a post proclaiming the message board was in Phase IV as a result of these types of posts... how ironic is that? http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,20301.0.html .  I see you as only more of the problem you addressed, not a solution.  Some might even perceive you  just performing Troll functions, feeding fuel to the political/religious/legal posts and injecting sarcasm or agitating comments/attacks, instead of taking it for what it is .... a somewhat harmless means to vent or blow off steam about an issue or event.  Beings you don't talk Valkyrie anymore, I am not even sure if you had or still have a Valkyrie (you never post pictures or talk about it any more from what I can see), and at this point I could care less.  But I would like to know how that 09 Road Glide of yours is working out for ya?  

I think since you seem to thrive in discussing (or arguing   ) law, religion and politics..... you might be better served by becoming a productive member at these web sites....  
For Legal discussions and advise...  http://forum.freeadvice.com/
For Religious discussions...   http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/
And of course, if you want to argue politics......    http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/
And if anyone else enjoys that....by all means, feel free to enjoy the links as well.  

And for the OP... if you do not want to subject yourself or family to the scanning or body searches, I can appreciate that and suggest you don't fly, but drive or ride in to visit our country instead.  Unfortunately, since the terrorists don't have their passports stamped with any identifying terrorist identification so we can pull them off of flights, and since some consider profiling a no no, everyone gets the treatment.

[Bobbo]

Since Reps established it, and if only Reps were mentioned, then it wouldn’t be ironic, would it?

As usual, you skipped the question. It wasn't about being "ironic" at all. But that doesn't matter
does it? You seldom (if ever) answer a direct question...here, anyway. Moving on.

The focus of my reply IS on the irony of the original post.

Michael Chertoff, Homeland Chief under President Bush, advocated the use of full body scanners.  I won’t get into the hidden agenda he may have had.

[Bobbo]

Aside from that, why is it that you only seem to get excited and bring a political, legal or religious twist/argument on things... or only respond and stir the pot in those types of posts??  I wasted some time and checked your stats and you only have 2 posts on this Tech Board and the remainder on this General Board, most of which are not Valkyrie or even motorcycle related.

Since you are a relatively new member of the VRCC, and probably aren’t familiar with the original VOA, you would have missed my tech posts from 1998 to when the new format was introduced.  If you search, some of my articles will still be out there. 

If you can’t handle viewpoints that differ from yours, I suggest not reading this forum.

[SANDMAN5]

The focus of my reply IS on the irony of the original post.

Exactly....but you didn't answer my question. Enuff said.

[SANDMAN5]

Since you are a relatively new member of the VRCC, and probably aren’t familiar with the original VOA, you would have missed my tech posts from 1998 to when the new format was introduced.  If you search, some of my articles will still be out there. 

If you can’t handle viewpoints that differ from yours, I suggest not reading this forum.

So you had to quit posting on the Tech board because of the new format?
And the last line of your post applies to you also!!

[PAVALKER]

Aside from that, why is it that you only seem to get excited and bring a political, legal or religious twist/argument on things... or only respond and stir the pot in those types of posts??  I wasted some time and checked your stats and you only have 2 posts on this Tech Board and the remainder on this General Board, most of which are not Valkyrie or even motorcycle related.

Since you are a relatively new member of the VRCC, and probably aren’t familiar with the original VOA, you would have missed my tech posts from 1998 to when the new format was introduced.  If you search, some of my articles will still be out there.  

If you can’t handle viewpoints that differ from yours, I suggest not reading this forum.

Again, bragging about how long you have been on this board yadda yadda yadda .... I read a post when you did that before as well, no big deal. I'm not impressed.  But that doesn't negate the fact that you are more of the problem you perceived than the solution.  Regardless of what you may have posted before (prior to this new board or on any other board actually).... and I did see some of them.  Let's talk present..... don't live in the past Bobbo.  Those old posts are not readily available.  

And let me correct myself (before someone else does)... it was 4 tech posts vice 2....   typo.  

I can and do handle viewpoints that differ from mine..... I was merely suggesting that you look at those other forums to express your viewpoints, since hardly any of your contributions  and posts here have been Valkyrie or even MC related as of late.... and are more of the political/religious/legal type.  Just trying to help ya out.

And... again hows that 09 Road Glide working out for you??  IF you can't talk Valkyrie anymore, at least let us know your opinions and feedback on the other brand.  Provide some motorcycle related contribution for us so new to the board and eager to learn Probies .    


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[Bobbo]

And... again hows that 09 Road Glide working out for you??  IF you can't talk Valkyrie anymore, at least let us know your opinions and feedback on the other brand.  Provide some motorcycle related contribution for us so new to the board and eager to learn Probies .    

Not to hijack this thread further, but you forgot to mention the 2002 Mean Streak, the 1962 BMW R5, my 2003 Silverado truck, my 2000 Honda riding lawn mower, and my 2001 Specialized Rockhopper mountain bike.  I have no idea why you take a particular (and somewhat creepy) interest in my vehicles, but thought you should have a complete list.

[SANDMAN5]

You have your answer.  That you don’t understand or agree with it is your problem.

Sure, I have an answer, just not to the question I asked you. But it don't matter...really.
You're just confirming what I said about you in another thread. So let it go unanswered.
No problem.

[Bobbo]

If you can’t handle viewpoints that differ from yours, I suggest not reading this forum.

Wow, I agree with you, but I fail to understand why you refuse to take your own advice?

I handle other viewpoints quite well, thank you.  A previous poster implied that he was upset with some of my posts, rather than debating the content.

[Bobbo]

Just a thought. Go back to the old metal detectors. Put a pet POT BELLY PIG on each plane. Let it run loose. It would even give the kids something to keep them quiet. Think about it!!!!!!!

Is that some sort of slam to Jews?  Are you suggesting that a pig would make the plane non-Kosher?

[Lonerbtw]

 Thats why I said think about it. It would not make an airplane non-Kosher But it woukd make a crashed airplane non-Kosher. There goes there brides.

[Bobbo]

Thats why I said think about it. It would not make an airplane non-Kosher But it woukd make a crashed airplane non-Kosher. There goes there brides.

I think you need to ask a Rabbi that question.

[PAVALKER]

Just a thought. Go back to the old metal detectors. Put a pet POT BELLY PIG on each plane. Let it run loose. It would even give the kids something to keep them quiet. Think about it!!!!!!!

Is that some sort of slam to Jews?  Are you suggesting that a pig would make the plane non-Kosher?

Tsk tsk again trying to bring religion into a post that isn't. The Hebrew word kosher means fit or proper as it relates to kosher dietary law.  If the pig were alive, and a "pet" it would not be food (YET at least). 

Might I suggest you check out this link regarding "kosher".  http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Kosher

[Bobbo]

Just a thought. Go back to the old metal detectors. Put a pet POT BELLY PIG on each plane. Let it run loose. It would even give the kids something to keep them quiet. Think about it!!!!!!!

Is that some sort of slam to Jews?  Are you suggesting that a pig would make the plane non-Kosher?

Tsk tsk again trying to bring religion into a post that isn't. The Hebrew word kosher means fit or proper as it relates to kosher dietary law.  If the pig were alive, and a "pet" it would not be food (YET at least). 

Might I suggest you check out this link regarding "kosher".  http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Kosher

Even a simpleton would recognize the religious overtone of the original post.

The term “kosher” in modern usage has expanded beyond its strict meaning, much like many words.

[PAVALKER]

Just a thought. Go back to the old metal detectors. Put a pet POT BELLY PIG on each plane. Let it run loose. It would even give the kids something to keep them quiet. Think about it!!!!!!!

Is that some sort of slam to Jews?  Are you suggesting that a pig would make the plane non-Kosher?

Tsk tsk again trying to bring religion into a post that isn't. The Hebrew word kosher means fit or proper as it relates to kosher dietary law.  If the pig were alive, and a "pet" it would not be food (YET at least).  

Might I suggest you check out this link regarding "kosher".  http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Kosher

Even a simpleton would recognize the religious overtone of the original post.

The term “kosher” in modern usage has expanded beyond its strict meaning, much like many words.

Now now, let's not resort to name calling/insinuating ... you know that is prohibited here (you should since you boast to have been here forever).  I know word meanings have expanded beyond their strict meaning... like "Troll" for example...

A troll is a mythological creature, related to elves, dwarfs, or monsters.

Troll may also refer to:

    * Trolling (fishing), the practice of fishing by drawing a baited line or lure behind a boat
    * Troll (Internet), an internet term for a person who, through willful action, attempts to disrupt a community or garner attention and controversy through provocative messages
    * A nickname for a resident of the Lower Peninsula of Michigan, usually used by those from the Upper Peninsula


If there was a religious overtone in the OP I didn't notice it. But if you mean the post referring to Pet Pot Belly Pigs on a plane,  I can only imagine it might have been a tongue in cheek reference/joke  to those with an Islam/Muslim background (how I perceived it). You know, sorta like those terrorists that have been found taking over the planes or bringing bombs on board.  No, that's not profiling... that's just fact.   I don't recall Jews being part of that.... do you have a credible reference or link that proves Jews were involved in terrorists attacks?

Oh and you never did elaborate if you still own a Valkyrie....  or not.??

[PAVALKER]

Someone e-mailed this to me. I like the idea. Any engineers out there with an inventive streak? 


Here's a solution to all the controversy over full-body scanners at the
airports: All we need to do is develop a booth that you can step into that
will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have
hidden on or in your body.

 The explosion will be contained within the sealed booth. This would be a
win-win for everyone. There would be none of this crap about racial
profiling and the device would eliminate long and expensive trials. This is
so simple that it's brilliant. I can see it now: you're in the airport
terminal and you hear a muffled explosion.

 Shortly thereafter an announcement comes over the PA system, "Attention
standby passengers, we now have a seat available on flight number..." 

The only thing I would add is an automatic wash, flush, and sterilize cycle so the booth could be reused in short order. Can't be holding up the other passengers, yanno

I like that idea.... but what about those dangerous nail clippers???  How will that device rid potential passengers of those?      Actually we could probably let those pass I think.... and anyone caught with them onboard would have to give pedicures to the remaining passengers during flight. 

[Bobbo]

Now now, let's not resort to name calling/insinuating ... you know that is prohibited here (you should since you boast to have been here forever).  I know word meanings have expanded beyond their strict meaning... like "Troll" for example...

A troll is a mythological creature, related to elves, dwarfs, or monsters.

Troll may also refer to:

    * Trolling (fishing), the practice of fishing by drawing a baited line or lure behind a boat
    * Troll (Internet), an internet term for a person who, through willful action, attempts to disrupt a community or garner attention and controversy through provocative messages
    * A nickname for a resident of the Lower Peninsula of Michigan, usually used by those from the Upper Peninsula


If there was a religious overtone in the OP I didn't notice it. But if you mean the post referring to Pet Pot Belly Pigs on a plane,  I can only imagine it might have been a tongue in cheek reference/joke  to those with an Islam/Muslim background (how I perceived it). You know, sorta like those terrorists that have been found taking over the planes or bringing bombs on board.  No, that's not profiling... that's just fact.   I don't recall Jews being part of that.... do you have a credible reference or link that proves Jews were involved in terrorists attacks?

Oh and you never did elaborate if you still own a Valkyrie....  or not.??

I guess when you run out of ammunition in a discussion, you fall back and punt by dragging out the “troll” buzzword.

To suggest that I believe Jews took part in the 9/11 terrorist attack is a stretch, even for you!  You must have had to work overtime to come up with that one! 

Whenever someone suggests a “cute” idea like using pigs to supposedly defile a Muslim, I sometimes remind them that religious dietary laws extend beyond Islam.  Quite often their suggestion simply reveals a misunderstanding of the group they despise.

[PAVALKER]

Now now, let's not resort to name calling/insinuating ... you know that is prohibited here (you should since you boast to have been here forever).  I know word meanings have expanded beyond their strict meaning... like "Troll" for example...

A troll is a mythological creature, related to elves, dwarfs, or monsters.

Troll may also refer to:

    * Trolling (fishing), the practice of fishing by drawing a baited line or lure behind a boat
    * Troll (Internet), an internet term for a person who, through willful action, attempts to disrupt a community or garner attention and controversy through provocative messages
    * A nickname for a resident of the Lower Peninsula of Michigan, usually used by those from the Upper Peninsula


If there was a religious overtone in the OP I didn't notice it. But if you mean the post referring to Pet Pot Belly Pigs on a plane,  I can only imagine it might have been a tongue in cheek reference/joke  to those with an Islam/Muslim background (how I perceived it). You know, sorta like those terrorists that have been found taking over the planes or bringing bombs on board.  No, that's not profiling... that's just fact.   I don't recall Jews being part of that.... do you have a credible reference or link that proves Jews were involved in terrorists attacks?

Oh and you never did elaborate if you still own a Valkyrie....  or not.??

I guess when you run out of ammunition in a discussion, you fall back and punt by dragging out the “troll” buzzword.

To suggest that I believe Jews took part in the 9/11 terrorist attack is a stretch, even for you!  You must have had to work overtime to come up with that one!  

Whenever someone suggests a “cute” idea like using pigs to supposedly defile a Muslim, I sometimes remind them that religious dietary laws extend beyond Islam.  Quite often their suggestion simply reveals a misunderstanding of the group they despise.

Bobbo,

Honestly... you were the one that brought up religion to begin with, and specifically "jews" and "kosher", not me.   I didn't have to work on it at all ... you did all the work on that by yourself.  With you, no one runs out of any ammunition, you just keep reloading it for us. 

Speaking of "kosher"  and expanded meanings.... how "kosher" is it for a person to come on a brand/model specific message board to play only in the off topic posts, when they no long have that specific brand/model (by your own admission) and no longer provide useful brand/specific information or help to the group. You just come to play in the kitty litter, not the whole sand box.   And then also claim the message board is in Phase 4 as a result of all the off topic posts.  You rarely even provide any "generic" motorcycle information.... hence my desire to pull some other brand specific information from you... to help you become a participant in other than off topic posts.  Others might like to hear different viewpoint of other brands, I might as well..... even just a comparison.  I don't understand it... either you don't like to play nice and share motorcycle information at all anymore since you don't feel the camaraderie of a group that has a common bond of Valkyrie ownership. Or they wouldn't put up with your nonsense on the HD forums. Not bashing other brands here, we all, if not most, came from another bike to begin with and may move on to others down the road.  I know IF I ever get rid of my Valkyrie or VTX, I probably won't come out to play here or on the VTXOA unless I can continue to be a positive contributing participant, otherwise I might become just ... another Troll.   If that term offends you, that is your problem not mine.  

[Bobbo]

Bobbo,

Honestly... you were the one that brought up religion to begin with, and specifically "jews" and "kosher", not me.   I didn't have to work on it at all ... you did all the work on that by yourself.  With you, no one runs out of any ammunition, you just keep reloading it for us. 

Speaking of "kosher"  and expanded meanings.... how "kosher" is it for a person to come on a brand/model specific message board to play only in the off topic posts, when they no long have that specific brand/model (by your own admission) and no longer provide useful brand/specific information or help to the group. You just come to play in the kitty litter, not the whole sand box.   And then also claim the message board is in Phase 4 as a result of all the off topic posts.  You rarely even provide any "generic" motorcycle information.... hence my desire to pull some other brand specific information from you... to help you become a participant in other than off topic posts.  Others might like to hear different viewpoint of other brands, I might as well..... even just a comparison.  I don't understand it... either you don't like to play nice and share motorcycle information at all anymore since you don't feel the camaraderie of a group that has a common bond of Valkyrie ownership. Or they wouldn't put up with your nonsense on the HD forums. Not bashing other brands here, we all, if not most, came from another bike to begin with and may move on to others down the road.  I know IF I ever get rid of my Valkyrie or VTX, I probably won't come out to play here or on the VTXOA unless I can continue to be a positive contributing participant, otherwise I might become just ... another Troll.   If that term offends you, that is your problem not mine.  

Actually, religion was injected into this thread by Lonerbtw when they suggested defiling an airplane by adding an animal they believe is forbidden under certain religious laws.  My post sought to clarify what religious group they were targeting.

Your newfound obsession with the brands of motorcycles I have is reaching a zenith with this latest post.  To suggest I picked this forum randomly without owning the motorcycle supported here is ludicrous. 

[SANDMAN5]

Quote from: PAVALKER on Yesterday at 10:21:19 AM
And... again hows that 09 Road Glide working out for you??  IF you can't talk Valkyrie anymore, at least let us know your opinions and feedback on the other brand.  Provide some motorcycle related contribution for us so new to the board and eager to learn Probies .   


Not to hijack this thread further, but you forgot to mention the 2002 Mean Streak, the 1962 BMW R5, my 2003 Silverado truck, my 2000 Honda riding lawn mower, and my 2001 Specialized Rockhopper mountain bike.  I have no idea why you take a particular (and somewhat creepy) interest in my vehicles, but thought you should have a complete list.

OK, I think I've got it figgered out! Bobbo can't answer a simple, direct question..even about
motorcycles on a motorcycle board. So try this. If you want to know how his road glide is doing,
ask him if he thinks it will rain in Sydney, Australia next Thursday...then maybe he'll talk about
his harley.

[Bobbo]

OK, I think I've got it figgered out! Bobbo can't answer a simple, direct question..even about
motorcycles on a motorcycle board. So try this. If you want to know how his road glide is doing,
ask him if he thinks it will rain in Sydney, Australia next Thursday...then maybe he'll talk about
his harley.

Obviously, you don’t have a grasp of the term “rhetorical question”.

[SANDMAN5]

Obviously, you don’t have a grasp of the term “rhetorical question”.

Rhetorical!?!? You were asked how your harley was doing. You didn't even
try to answer. Are you ashamed of your harley? Is it in the shop? Is it doing
great? Do you even have one?
 Where EXACTLY does 'rhetorical' fit into that? Wait..WAIT!! I'm sorry, that
was a direct question. My fault. So, Bobbo, do you think it will rain in Sydney
next Thursday?

[Bobbo]

Obviously, you don’t have a grasp of the term “rhetorical question”.

Rhetorical!?!? You were asked how your harley was doing. You didn't even
try to answer. Are you ashamed of your harley? Is it in the shop? Is it doing
great? Do you even have one?
 Where EXACTLY does 'rhetorical' fit into that? Wait..WAIT!! I'm sorry, that
was a direct question. My fault. So, Bobbo, do you think it will rain in Sydney
next Thursday?

You need to add “presumptive question” to your ever expanding list of “terms I need to learn”.

[SANDMAN5]

You need to add “presumptive question” to your ever expanding list of “terms I need to learn”.

Ok, so you brought up rhetorical question. Why is it rhetorical to ask how your harley is doing?
I don't know (or care) if you have one or how it's doing. The harley itself (real or imagined) is
irrelevant. But why is the question rhetorical?

Now you've changed from rhetorical to presumptive. Well, in a way it is because I "presumed"
you have a harley. What are you going to change the subject to now (in order, of course, to
keep from answering a simple, honest question)?

[Bobbo]

Ok, so you brought up rhetorical question. Why is it rhetorical to ask how your harley is doing?
I don't know (or care) if you have one or how it's doing. The harley itself (real or imagined) is
irrelevant. But why is the question rhetorical?

Remember how I suggested you are digging yourself deeper?  You have just started using a bigger shovel!
 

[PAVALKER]

Bobbo,

Honestly... you were the one that brought up religion to begin with, and specifically "jews" and "kosher", not me.   I didn't have to work on it at all ... you did all the work on that by yourself.  With you, no one runs out of any ammunition, you just keep reloading it for us.

Speaking of "kosher"  and expanded meanings.... how "kosher" is it for a person to come on a brand/model specific message board to play only in the off topic posts, when they no long have that specific brand/model (by your own admission) and no longer provide useful brand/specific information or help to the group. You just come to play in the kitty litter, not the whole sand box.   And then also claim the message board is in Phase 4 as a result of all the off topic posts.  You rarely even provide any "generic" motorcycle information.... hence my desire to pull some other brand specific information from you... to help you become a participant in other than off topic posts.  Others might like to hear different viewpoint of other brands, I might as well..... even just a comparison.  I don't understand it... either you don't like to play nice and share motorcycle information at all anymore since you don't feel the camaraderie of a group that has a common bond of Valkyrie ownership. Or they wouldn't put up with your nonsense on the HD forums. Not bashing other brands here, we all, if not most, came from another bike to begin with and may move on to others down the road.  I know IF I ever get rid of my Valkyrie or VTX, I probably won't come out to play here or on the VTXOA unless I can continue to be a positive contributing participant, otherwise I might become just ... another Troll.   If that term offends you, that is your problem not mine.  

Actually, religion was injected into this thread by Lonerbtw when they suggested defiling an airplane by adding an animal they believe is forbidden under certain religious laws.  My post sought to clarify what religious group they were targeting.

Your newfound obsession with the brands of motorcycles I have is reaching a zenith with this latest post.  To suggest I picked this forum randomly without owning the motorcycle supported here is ludicrous.  

See what I mean about reloading... you did it again.      You mentioned "simpleton" in an earlier post, yet you claim your post sought to clarify what religious group they were targeting.... Duuuuhhhhhh    ???  .  If you really wanted to know ... just ask instead of insinuate and insult other groups or individuals here.... by definition, that is Troll like behavior.

Defiling an airplane??  A pig onboard would not necessarily defile an airplane.   

I didn't suggest you picked this forum randomly... you might have very well had a Valkyrie and shared some productive info.... at one time, long ago.  I don't know of anyone here that has seen your Valkyrie nor did I see any pictures of it in any of your posts, so I can neither confirm nor deny what you had or have.  But, by your own admission, it appears you no longer have one..... and I don't care about that either.  What I do care about is that you only come to play on the off topic subjects and stir up the pot, yet don't participate in productive motorcycle related posts... (another troll like trait). If you had a Valkyrie, I'm sure, at your age, you didn't forget everything about it and might still be able to provide some productive input on Valkyrie's or even general motorcycle related topics.  And that is why I thought you might enjoy those other "off topic" messages boards.... because you really seem to thrive on those subjects or at least stirring the pot.  You might not realize what you have become... but given your recent posts on this "new" board, it gives others and myself the perception of troll like behavior.  And... perception is reality, regardless if you want to accept it or not.

I have no obsession with whatever brand you want to ride and could care less... that's your choice, you made it... so the least you can do is be happy with what you ride, and that you can ride.... then move on and live with it and share the experiences of that brand, either with the folks that share your fondness for that brand or even us.  But I know that if you conduct yourself on the HD forums like you do here.... it would not be tolerated there.  

I sincerely hope you have Happy Thanksgiving... and if you must travel for the holidays, that you do it by air... and enjoy your free groping/x-ray.  Make sure you lets us know how it was for you.....

[Lonerbtw]

Who said anything about religion? Who said anything about jews? And who on earth said anything about eating the pour pig? Its a pet damit. And from what I was told by a Muslim that I happen to know. If the plane crashed and thay happened to get some of the pigs blood on them thay would be defiled and would not be able to go see there maker. So now that I explaned my thoughts I am sorry for posting because I did open myself for everything that you gave to me. By telling you to think about it. Sorry my bad.
 Loner

[Tropic traveler]

 

Whenever someone suggests a “cute” idea like using pigs to supposedly defile a Muslim, I sometimes remind them that religious dietary laws extend beyond Islam.  

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Why?

[Bobbo]

 

Whenever someone suggests a “cute” idea like using pigs to supposedly defile a Muslim, I sometimes remind them that religious dietary laws extend beyond Islam.  

Why?
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Because this is a discussion forum...

[Bobbo]

See what I mean about reloading... you did it again.      You mentioned "simpleton" in an earlier post, yet you claim your post sought to clarify what religious group they were targeting.... Duuuuhhhhhh    ???  .  If you really wanted to know ... just ask instead of insinuate and insult other groups or individuals here.... by definition, that is Troll like behavior.

Defiling an airplane??  A pig onboard would not necessarily defile an airplane.   

Yes, even a “simpleton” could see the religious aspects of the post.  Yet, the religious reference was vague and ambiguous.   These two concepts are not mutually exclusive.

A direct question was unnecessary, and I asked a rhetorical question to point out the ambiguity.

If you believe you are reloading, please be sure you don’t reload with blanks!

[Skinhead]

Why don't you guys give it a rest already?

[PAVALKER]

 

Whenever someone suggests a “cute” idea like using pigs to supposedly defile a Muslim, I sometimes remind them that religious dietary laws extend beyond Islam.  

Why?

Because this is a discussion forum...
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This is a motorcycle discussion forum, of a specific brand... and if you can't or don't want to play in the whole sand box, and opt just to play in the kitty litter,  and don’t want to be a productive participant as whole, why should I (or anyone else here) want to play in your dirt  pile.   I gave you some great links to exercise your preferred MO.  I don’t like to feed trolls and will try to ignore your posts as best I can.  I would recommend others do  the same and maybe you won’t have anyone to argue with and will move on.   Goodbye..

[fstsix]

+1 on the troll..Bo...Like the Troll explained...he was around when the old board had a falling out...can't imagine why that happened ? sure would like to see him Man up and participate here,,to many of us are too easy on him, as the reputation as a Troll his point of anything is a Joke  can't help but smile when he gets any attention,,Trolls always stay away from me on boards GOOD!! whatever it takes 

[Billy]

Pavalker:

This is a motorcycle discussion forum, of a specific brand... and if you can't or don't want to play in the whole sand box, and opt just to play in the kitty litter,  and don’t want to be a productive participant as whole, why should I (or anyone else here) want to play in your dirt  pile.   I gave you some great links to exercise your preferred MO.  I don’t like to feed trolls and will try to ignore your posts as best I can.  I would recommend others do  the same and maybe you won’t have anyone to argue with and will move on.   Goodbye..

Me:
I'm sorta new here and I don't want to frustrate your senitivities more than they already are by my posting patterns. Until I get in the swing of things, could you help me along by picking  threads that I need to post in to keep a proper pattern? I see you keep a tight ship and don't want to rock the boat.

[DarkMeister]

 
Yes  that would help.
For example, I still visit bmwlt forums. Great place, great people, classifieds, etc.. I'm not the only one without a Beemer who posts there. Nobody has suggested that I take a hike, either, just because of owning a different bike. But hey...I don't want to step on any cyber-toes here.
One person's 'troll' is another person's intelligent debater. When bashing someone, stick to "I" not "we".
Cheers!

[Skinhead]

Pavalker:

This is a motorcycle discussion forum, of a specific brand... and if you can't or don't want to play in the whole sand box, and opt just to play in the kitty litter,  and don’t want to be a productive participant as whole, why should I (or anyone else here) want to play in your dirt  pile.   I gave you some great links to exercise your preferred MO.  I don’t like to feed trolls and will try to ignore your posts as best I can.  I would recommend others do  the same and maybe you won’t have anyone to argue with and will move on.   Goodbye..

Me:
I'm sorta new here and I don't want to frustrate your senitivities more than they already are by my posting patterns. Until I get in the swing of things, could you help me along by picking  threads that I need to post in to keep a proper pattern? I see you keep a tight ship and don't want to rock the boat.

Yes  that would help.
For example, I still visit bmwlt forums. Great place, great people, classifieds, etc.. I'm not the only one without a Beemer who posts there. Nobody has suggested that I take a hike, either, just because of owning a different bike. But hey...I don't want to step on any cyber-toes here.
One person's 'troll' is another person's intelligent debater. When bashing someone, stick to "I" not "we".
Cheers!

Hey guys, we really are a tolerant group and couldn't care less what you ride.  Post what you want as long as it won't offend your mother.  Some folks on here are a little more uptight than MY mother, but that's what makes it such a great forum.  Also remember that the MODERATORS have to read all these posts, so try to at least keep them interesting and avoid the dead horse thing.