Your Federal Government tax dollars at work.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101203/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_bake_sales_2

How far is Government going to stick it's stupid nose into the people's business?

This is a quote from the article.

Margo Wootan of the Center for Science in the Public Interest says the bill is aimed at curbing daily or weekly bake sales or pizza fundraisers that become a regular part of kids' lunchtime routines. She says selling junk food can easily be substituted with nonfood fundraisers.

"These fundraisers are happening all the time," Wootan said. "It's a pizza sale one day, doughnuts the next... It's endless. This is really about supporting parental choice. Most parents don't want their kids to use their lunch money to buy junk food. They expect they'll use their lunch money to buy a balanced school meal."

My local school system serves pizza as part of its scheduled menu.

[Jess from VA]

All part of the leftist, nanny-state PC vision.

What it really is is dereliction of duty by scumbag legislators who waste their time on this PC crap rather than addressing the important and more difficult issues like budget, economy, jobs, term limits, and cutting government in half.

[Bobbo]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101203/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_bake_sales_2

How far is Government going to stick it's stupid nose into the people's business?

As far back as 1966, when this bill was enacted.  It is up for reauthorization again.  Why is this ruffling feathers now, as opposed to the previous 44 years?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Nutrition_Act

[Billy]

This may be a national security problem in that 27 percent of Americans between the ages of 17 and 24 are too fat to qualify for the military. That comes out to be 9 million possible soldiers disqualified because of being lard asses.


What is a "nanny state"? Is it the Govt having excessing concern over the welfare of it's citizens? The US has the highest percentage of homelessness than any other 1st world country. Our primary educational system has dropped to 24th place, down there with Portugal, the disparity gap of wealth between the rich and poor has not been this great since 1928 and the major gridlock in Washington is the fight over giving huge tax breaks to million/billionaires. I would think fear over a nanny state would be the least of your concerns.

I hope that if the Tax breaks are granted, Rupert will use his share to hire more puffy lip chicks to read his news.  

[elraque]

This may be a national security problem in that 27 percent of Americans between the ages of 17 and 24 are too fat to qualify for the military. That comes out to be 9 million possible soldiers disqualified because of being lard asses.


What is a "nanny state"? Is it the Govt having excessing concern over the welfare of it's citizens? The US has the highest percentage of homelessness than any other 1st world country. Our primary educational system has dropped to 24th place, down there with Portugal, the disparity gap of wealth between the rich and poor has not been this great since 1928 and the major gridlock in Washington is the fight over giving huge tax breaks to million/billionaires. I would think fear over a nanny state would be the least of your concerns.

I hope that if the Tax breaks are granted, Rupert will use his share to hire more puffy lip chicks to read his news.  

So tell me... what IS the RICHEST entity in the USA? Would that be the entity that gets the most benefits from the US tax code and its implementation?

Shouldn't THAT entity be "sharing its wealth" with ALL the rest of us who are "less fortunate?" (Some sarcasm is intended, but there is a foundation of truth here somewhere.)

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101203/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_bake_sales_2

How far is Government going to stick it's stupid nose into the people's business?

As far back as 1966, when this bill was enacted.  It is up for reauthorization again.  Why is this ruffling feathers now, as opposed to the previous 44 years?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Nutrition_Act

The law you link to has been law since 1966 "The Child Nutrition Act (CNA) is a United States federal law signed on October 11, 1966 by President Lyndon B. Johnson." And has nothing to do with bake sales.

[Billy]

So tell me... what IS the RICHEST entity in the USA? Would that be the entity that gets the most benefits from the US tax code and its implementation?

Shouldn't THAT entity be "sharing its wealth" with ALL the rest of us who are "less fortunate?" (Some sarcasm is intended, but there is a foundation of truth here somewhere.)
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Sarcasm is said to be the lowest form of wit and humor so with that being said, I would not use sarcasm when attempting to locate the foundation of truth. I don't think Bill Gates would appreciate being called an "it", and with 65 billion dollars in the bank, I would say he did pretty well with our tax codes. Am I getting closer to the "foundation of truth"?

I Wonder if Bill appreciates so many souls worrying  about his financial welfare.

[x]

This may be a national security problem in that 27 percent of Americans between the ages of 17 and 24 are too fat to qualify for the military. That comes out to be 9 million possible soldiers disqualified because of being lard asses.


What is a "nanny state"? Is it the Govt having excessing concern over the welfare of it's citizens? The US has the highest percentage of homelessness than any other 1st world country. Our primary educational system has dropped to 24th place, down there with Portugal, the disparity gap of wealth between the rich and poor has not been this great since 1928 and the major gridlock in Washington is the fight over giving huge tax breaks to million/billionaires. I would think fear over a nanny state would be the least of your concerns.

I hope that if the Tax breaks are granted, Rupert will use his share to hire more puffy lip chicks to read his news.  

+1

[Valkahuna]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101203/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_bake_sales_2

How far is Government going to stick it's stupid nose into the people's business?

As far back as 1966, when this bill was enacted.  It is up for reauthorization again.  Why is this ruffling feathers now, as opposed to the previous 44 years?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Nutrition_Act

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Back when we were happy to be the silent majority, and things were relatively good, no one cared, and feathers did not get ruffled.  That's why and how we got to where we are standing in front of this mountain of s**t!

[Trynt]

What is a "nanny state"?

Excessive state action to protect people from the consequences of their actions by restricting citizen options.

The term nanny state is often used as a pejorative term for the welfare state. Besides having the objective of insurance against risks and hazards of life, the welfare state often has a goal of social justice through some complex mechanisms of redistribution of wealth.

In general nanny state is used in reference to policies where the state is perceived as being excessive in its desire to protect (as a nanny would protect a child), govern or control particular aspects of society.  The term can refer to:  public health interventions (eg. food police);  consumer protectionism that removes or controls otherwise free choices (such as helmet laws), and other laws regarding personal choices and/or infringing upon personal privacy.
   

[Billy]

Thanks, Wiki couldn't have said it better. I do have a question. Can the term "nanny state" also apply to corporations where they are granted tax breaks for moving jobs out of the country or to write laws where no checks are incurred from them selling tainted food or unsafe manufactured items? It would seem with the redistribution of wealth and the destruction of our middle class in the last 20 or 30 years, big business is being taken care of quite well. I wonder how much more profit business can make if there were no limit on insect parts in a 100 grams of pizza dough or pepperoni that has no expiration date.

I would think China loves these tax breaks, since they will be loaning us the money to pay for them at interest.

[Trynt]

Thanks, Wiki couldn't have said it better. I do have a question. Can the term "nanny state" also apply to corporations where they are granted tax breaks for moving jobs out of the country or to write laws where no checks are incurred from them selling tainted food or unsafe manufactured items? It would seem with the redistribution of wealth and the destruction of our middle class in the last 20 or 30 years, big business is being taken care of quite well. I wonder how much more profit business can make if there were no limit on insect parts in a 100 grams of pizza dough or pepperoni that has no expiration date.

I would think China loves these tax breaks, since they will be loaning us the money to pay for them at interest.

  Despite the fact that the Supreme Court recently seemed to imply corporations are individuals, I'd say no.  Its a stretch see what your rant about the evils of capitalism has to do with the concept of a nanny state. Few reasonable people would suggest a total lack of governmental regulation. But I find it personally objectionable when the government attempts to intrude in to my personal life. For example when I can't buy a cookie at a bake sale because the government is trying prevent some fat ass from stuffing a baker's dozen into their face. No matter how many laws are passed, the world can't be made idiot proof . All you do is infringe on personal choice and freedom.  It is my view that the majority of politicians on both sides of the isle are corrupted by money from any number of unions, businesses, and industries.  They are generally an inept, greedy, cowardly, power hungry lot. I always finding baffling as to why so many "progressives" place so much faith in government when it's ineffectiveness is so obvious.  Why would you want to give these wretches more and more control over your personal lives.  The power of individual politicians and political parties ebb and flow.  The powers you would comfortably bestow on the left will in time be transferred to the right.  While you may support Obama using legislation to micro manage your life, it is likely you'd feel differently about , say . . . .  Newt Gingrich.

[Jess from VA]

Excellent, Mr Trynt! 

Newt would make an outstanding president.  I think perhaps the best in my lifetime.

[Billy]

In all due respect, what I find objectionable is when stories like this are ginned up where that mean old gob't is going to ban or control  junior's  cupcake and pizza fundraisers sale at his  school. And gosh darn it, there goes my freedomz again and sister Sarah seeing a photo op a mile away gets out her tray of cupcakes and marches off to school in protest.  Amazing what one can come up with from a bill that is only referred to in the op as a child nutrition bill and it's goal  to give a nutritious meal to to our children.
This kind of poop has only one purpose, to create paranoia and keeping it fed.

 

[RoadKill]

In all due respect, what I find objectionable is when stories like this are ginned up where that mean old gob't is going to ban or control  junior's  cupcake and pizza fundraisers sale at his  school. And gosh darn it, there goes my freedomz again and sister Sarah seeing a photo op a mile away gets out her tray of cupcakes and marches off to school in protest.  Amazing what one can come up with from a bill that is only referred to in the op as a child nutrition bill and it's goal  to give a nutritious meal to to our children.
This kind of poop has only one purpose, to create paranoia and keeping it fed.

 

No bake sale allowed but KOOLAIDE FOR EVERY ONE ! !

[Trynt]

In all due respect, what I find objectionable is when stories like this are ginned up where that mean old gob't is going to ban or control  junior's  cupcake and pizza fundraisers sale at his  school. And gosh darn it, there goes my freedomz again and sister Sarah seeing a photo op a mile away gets out her tray of cupcakes and marches off to school in protest.  Amazing what one can come up with from a bill that is only referred to in the op as a child nutrition bill and it's goal  to give a nutritious meal to to our children.
This kind of poop has only one purpose, to create paranoia and keeping it fed.

 

But stories "ginned up" about insects in pizza dough are fine because they feed your left wing paranoia? "Stories like this" while not of great importance are emblematic of governmental over reach and intrusion.  Besides they are easy for usin' country folk to understand since wez just ain't as smart as you true believers.  After all we gots be stewpid if'n we disagree with'in you (your arrogance is showing).

[elraque]

So tell me... what IS the RICHEST entity in the USA? Would that be the entity that gets the most benefits from the US tax code and its implementation?

Shouldn't THAT entity be "sharing its wealth" with ALL the rest of us who are "less fortunate?" (Some sarcasm is intended, but there is a foundation of truth here somewhere.)

Sarcasm is said to be the lowest form of wit and humor so with that being said, I would not use sarcasm when attempting to locate the foundation of truth. I don't think Bill Gates would appreciate being called an "it", and with 65 billion dollars in the bank, I would say he did pretty well with our tax codes. Am I getting closer to the "foundation of truth"?

I Wonder if Bill appreciates so many souls worrying  about his financial welfare.
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NO CIGAR!!

Microsoft is a small time organization compared to the one I'm thinking of. Care to make another guess? Consider carefully the clues/facts I've presented.

(Should I be offended or insulted at your derogation of my reference to sarcasm? Probably not, I have other forms of humor I can offer if and when I choose to do so.)

(Are you and SE twin sons of different mothers?)

[stormrider]

The military industrial complex is the largest, richest industry in this country. That's where a huge perscentage of the 13 trillion dollar debt has gone.

[elraque]

W

This may be a national security problem in that 27 percent of Americans between the ages of 17 and 24 are too fat to qualify for the military. That comes out to be 9 million possible soldiers disqualified because of being lard asses.


What is a "nanny state"? Is it the Govt having excessing concern over the welfare of it's citizens? The US has the highest percentage of homelessness than any other 1st world country. Our primary educational system has dropped to 24th place, down there with Portugal, the disparity gap of wealth between the rich and poor has not been this great since 1928 and the major gridlock in Washington is the fight over giving huge tax breaks to million/billionaires. I would think fear over a nanny state would be the least of your concerns.

I hope that if the Tax breaks are granted, Rupert will use his share to hire more puffy lip chicks to read his news. 

+1

WELCOME BACK, SE. I haven't heard much from you lately!

[Billy]

Please don't let this thread sink to  butt hurts, and  personal attacks. We were having a spirited conversation. With modern technology we all have lost what anonymity we have left, but taking a bill that is designed to provide proper nutrition for óur children and twisting it into big government paranoiac persecution. Not so much that it's gov't intrusion but that it cost money and money spent on the less forunate,( 6 cents a child) First they want to take away our guns, now they want to take away our cupcakes. Time to buy more ammo?

[Willow]

Please don't let this thread sink to  butt hurts, and  personal attacks. We were having a spirited conversation.

I agree with you, James, but you have an apology to deliver before you're in a position to present an admonition.  It looks like you were pretty early in the conversation sinking to sarcasm and the implication that anyone who disagrees with you is obviously an ignorant bumpkin. 

Lets all see if it's possible for us to maintain a respectful, spirited level to the discussion.  Wouldn't that be refreshing? 

[Billy]

Sorry to whom ever I offended.  Sarcasm has it place and is used by some pretty intelligent people and if you inferred that it meant lack of intelligence forgive me. I really don't know anyone here personally so if it was taken as an ad hominem attack, I apologize. I'll try to be more gentle in the future. As for the label I was tagged with of an arrogant koolaide swilling  half brother in a SE, I just might get over it in a week or two. 

[Jess from VA]

Here's the deal.  The taxpayers are entitled to their children receiving a decent level of nutritious food at lunch on a daily basis.  This would be good law and regulation.

Outlawing the occasional bake sales used to raise extra money for school activities, is PC nanny-state bullsh!t micromanagement, and is bad law and regulation.  Any legislator that wastes the taxpayers money (his salary) with PC nanny-state bullsh!t micromanagement should have his pay docked and be given a 10 days in jail.