HotRod
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« on: December 14, 2010, 10:46:18 AM » |
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Santa may bring me a set, not sure what to tell her,or I could build a set too just don't know where to get the parts I would need,any help would be appreciated,thanks and happy holidays!
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2010, 12:19:43 PM » |
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Crazyhorse
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2010, 01:23:48 PM » |
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Carbmate the cost-effective electronic replacement for mercury sticks (carbmate.com).
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2010, 04:57:05 PM » |
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FLATSIX
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2010, 03:22:06 AM » |
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Hello,
1 big point to consider when purchasing carb sync tools is that you have to be able to "see" all 6 carbs.
So the system with 6 gauges will do, as all carbs are connected to each other: when you change the setting of 1 carb it will affect the others: so with a 6-gauge tool you see what you do.
All other systems are not good to adjust the beast.
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HotRod
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2010, 10:06:47 AM » |
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Hello,
1 big point to consider when purchasing carb sync tools is that you have to be able to "see" all 6 carbs.
So the system with 6 gauges will do, as all carbs are connected to each other: when you change the setting of 1 carb it will affect the others: so with a 6-gauge tool you see what you do.
All other systems are not good to adjust the beast.
Do they sell them with six gauges or do you have to build yourself? |
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FLATSIX
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2010, 11:20:41 AM » |
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I have never seen an affordable 6-gauges machine to adjust vacuum on the market, Carbtune and the others on the market have only 4 or 2 gauges. That is the reason why I made a 6-gauge myself- not hard to do - results are good. On this board do a search on carb synchronisation - then you will find much photo's and details of home-made synchro-tools for the beast. Success ! (when I let my (d)stealer do the synchronisation and I drove back home, then I did not feel any differences except that I was lighter in money..... when I perform it myself with my six-machine, then it is noticible - smoother and sits more on the throttle (better response) - SO DO IT YOURSELF !!)  |
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HotRod
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2010, 11:35:23 AM » |
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I have never seen an affordable 6-gauges machine to adjust vacuum on the market, Carbtune and the others on the market have only 4 or 2 gauges. That is the reason why I made a 6-gauge myself- not hard to do - results are good. On this board do a search on carb synchronisation - then you will find much photo's and details of home-made synchro-tools for the beast. Success ! (when I let my (d)stealer do the synchronisation and I drove back home, then I did not feel any differences except that I was lighter in money..... when I perform it myself with my six-machine, then it is noticible - smoother and sits more on the throttle (better response) - SO DO IT YOURSELF !!) Always have done it myself but borrowed friends four port sets,think I want to try 6 for sure. |
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Crazyhorse
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2010, 01:14:48 PM » |
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Re: Any recommendations on carb sync gauges?
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Heist o/d Berg BELGIUM wrote,
"1 big point to consider when purchasing carb sync tools is that you have to be able to "see" all 6 carbs."
I fail to see how the carbs can affect one another if you follow the procedure in the tech manual. Once #1 and #5 are set to #3 how does that setting change. Then you set #2, #4 and #6 to #3 just asking.
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FLATSIX
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2010, 01:39:07 PM » |
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Technically there are real carb-gurus on this board who can explain you exactly how the 6 carbs interfere to each other - I only know that they are connected to each other and when you change the setting of 1 then you will SEE on your 6 gauges that the others change also.  Once you have synchronized with a 6 gauge-tool that is really sensitive, then you will find out for yourself that it is not so evident as you thought, because you will have to do the round of the 5 carbs to synchronize many times before the result is +/- like you want it.  |
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standard '97 - european F6C - red & white - 27.000 KM
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2010, 12:12:02 PM » |
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Synchronizing the carburetors is not as simple and as easy as some would have you think!
It gets confusing as to which way to turn the adjusting screws and monitoring the idle is a constant pain in the ass!
All the time watching the temperature of the motor so the fan will not energize.
The first time I did it, I was ready to blow the bike to pieces it was so frustrating! So the first time, when I got the synchronization barely acceptable, I settled for that!
The next time was more successful since I was aware of the pitfalls. At least a little better that the first time.
A good fan that will keep the motor at a constant temperature is imperative. Having the radiator fan keep turning off and on will skewer the results and cause havoc in your attempts to get it right!
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HotRod
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2010, 11:37:34 AM » |
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Synchronizing the carburetors is not as simple and as easy as some would have you think!
It gets confusing as to which way to turn the adjusting screws and monitoring the idle is a constant pain in the ass!
All the time watching the temperature of the motor so the fan will not energize.
The first time I did it, I was ready to blow the bike to pieces it was so frustrating! So the first time, when I got the synchronization barely acceptable, I settled for that!
The next time was more successful since I was aware of the pitfalls. At least a little better that the first time.
A good fan that will keep the motor at a constant temperature is imperative. Having the radiator fan keep turning off and on will skewer the results and cause havoc in your attempts to get it right!
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Dag
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2010, 12:31:19 PM » |
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 This one fit in the trunk of an IS. |
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The question is not what you look at...but what you see...
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HayHauler
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2010, 01:56:23 PM » |
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Yes it does! Thanks for the kit Dag! Looking forward to riding with you next year.. Hay  Jimmyt |
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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2010, 02:07:27 PM » |
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This one fit in the trunk of an IS. Drool! Very nice! I have the gauges and now wish to clone this set-up. Did you fabricate this? It looks live a few aluminum angles riveted inside a solid trunk. Is that right? Any insight would be appreciated! Thanks! |
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I still have a full deck.
I just shuffle slower ...
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Dag
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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2010, 02:13:37 PM » |
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quexpress, Maybee I took some pictures when I made it... I`ll check and come back Hay, I hope to attend GOTF Looking forward to see all of you again! Have you tried the sync-case? |
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Dag
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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2010, 02:27:35 PM » |
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Here is the "part list" only the trunk, the aluminium angles and the hoses are different. http://valkyrienorway.com/Tools.html |
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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2010, 06:06:48 PM » |
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Thanks Dag! |
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I still have a full deck.
I just shuffle slower ...
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HayHauler
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« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2010, 07:10:11 PM » |
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quexpress, Maybee I took some pictures when I made it... I`ll check and come back Hay, I hope to attend GOTF Looking forward to see all of you again! Have you tried the sync-case? Yes, most of us down here have tried it. It works real good! See ya next year. Merry Christmas! Hay Jimmyt |
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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2010, 07:44:45 PM » |
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« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2010, 08:06:20 PM » |
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Ken, is that an Escapade trailer in the background? Sure looks like mine, only it's black and mine is green/silver... Hay Jimmyt |
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Ken Tarver
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« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2010, 10:36:56 AM » |
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Hey HayHauler.....yes sir, that is an Excapade; it goes with the Wing  |
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HotRod
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« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2010, 11:49:33 AM » |
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This one fit in the trunk of an IS. Very nice Dag,always impressive! |
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HotRod
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« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2010, 11:50:19 AM » |
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Very nice Ken,you build that? |
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Ken Tarver
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« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2010, 03:14:29 PM » |
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yes I did....it's mounted on one of those double head halogen light tripod stands. Has a shut off valve on each air line. The gauges came from Harbor Freight
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Patrick
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« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2010, 08:46:15 AM » |
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I've tried to stay out of this, guess I can't.. It appears I'm the only one that uses a single plain plain vacuum gauge.. Some tubing, a ' T ' , forceps is all thats needed.. I certainly can't blame anyone for wanting or needing more tools or gadgets, its only human, but, I'm trying to get rid of gadgets cuz I gottz too many..
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HotRod
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« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2010, 12:07:29 PM » |
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yes I did....it's mounted on one of those double head halogen light tripod stands. Has a shut off valve on each air line. The gauges came from Harbor Freight
Are they just a liquid filled vacuum gauge? |
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Ken Tarver
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« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2010, 06:06:06 PM » |
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mine aren't liquid filled ~ Dag's are though. I really like his set-up ~ sweet!
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« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2010, 09:57:18 PM » |
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mine aren't liquid filled ~ Dag's are though. I really like his set-up ~ sweet!
Yes his are very sweet and he was nice enough to e-mail the prices for that set up and it's about 4 bills, a little deep for my pocket. |
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« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2010, 12:27:19 AM » |
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Here is what I came up with using Ricky-D gauge setup as my model. I decided to buy 1 extra gauge just incase I got a bad one.  I think mine cost less than $45-50 and that included the Cool flame duct tape, got the gauges off of eBay check out Ricky's link for the gauges and I used 1/4" vinyl tubing from hardware store and vaccum line from auto store then a plastic 1/4" - 5/32" vaccum adpaters to about a foot of 5/32" vaccum line.. I later after synch I ganged all my vaccum ports like Dag had done and it did seem to even further the vaccum pulses I will add a one way check valve that will then feed my audiovox cruise control. To do the gang setup i got a few brass "T" fittings from fish store and an automotive vaccum cap on third leg of the Brass "T". I still need to add easier to user regulater or snubbed to slow down gauges reaction (needle bounce) from vaccum pulses. |
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« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2010, 12:32:21 AM » |
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You can check my Multi point upgrade thread for a bit better pictures but incase you don't wanna look there here is a slightly closer picture if my gauge setup,  |
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