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Found this on You Tube .... any one here own it ??
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VRCC # 30938 '99 Std. - Black & Silver - "Spirit Horse" Dear God, Seriously .... Thanks for creating beer. You rock !!  |
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 05:28:59 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 05:37:12 PM » |
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Why the weird idle?
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 05:39:26 PM » |
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Why the weird idle?
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2011, 06:14:00 PM » |
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Why the weird idle?
I believe that bad boy has a blower on it. And some custom cams.  |
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 06:46:34 PM » |
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The bike is in front of Genes Gallery, which is a Goldwing accessory dealer I think in Mo.
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 06:51:24 PM » |
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2011, 07:13:00 PM » |
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Most if not all Blower Valks idle like that. With or without cams. There are 2 in the twincities that idle more normaly and they have played with the pilot hole size on the throttle plate.
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2011, 07:22:36 PM » |
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I've never seen a Valk with a spark distributor driven off the cam shaft.
Nice looking bike. I'd bet he wins most any show he enters it in.
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2011, 07:25:59 PM » |
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"1998 Valkyrie Custom Hot Rod 1998 Valkyrie 1520cc. Everything that can be chrome has been chromed. Custom headers, Nitros, Air Shifter, Chevrolet Distributor, MSD Ingition, 4BBL carb, Supercharger, Custom Cam Ground Cams, Special paint job, has approximately 400 Horsepower, Corbin Seat. This probably is the Baddest Valkyrie on the street or track. Additional photos are available. Price $19999.99" http://www.easycart.net/GenesGAllery/Used_Wings_Trikes__Trailers.html |
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2011, 07:34:12 PM » |
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Approximately 400 horsepower???!!!!!! Hope he beefed up the final drive  |
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2011, 09:04:57 PM » |
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I question the 400 hp. i get 330 hp with a 150 wetshot. and I am scared of popping head off if i put the 40hp nozzle in it. and mines 1740cc. not running a magnacharger either. 3 vain eaton . I think it a beautiful bike, but Bill set up his manifolds with a trough in them to hold fuel, giving it that surging effect. Mine doesnt serge much only when I come off throttle. At idle, it just lopes.
I would love to see this in person. maybe compare it to what I have. it is truly beautiful tho.
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2011, 10:52:13 PM » |
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I agree Dogg. I love the look! I also agree with Dogg, in that I dont believe 400hp for a minute.
Mine doesnt idle like that though. I played with the hole in the butterfly. Lopes a little but no surge.
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2011, 04:51:11 AM » |
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I question the 400 hp. i get 330 hp with a 150 wetshot. and I am scared of popping head off if i put the 40hp nozzle in it. and mines 1740cc. not running a magnacharger either. 3 vain eaton . I think it a beautiful bike, but Bill set up his manifolds with a trough in them to hold fuel, giving it that surging effect. Mine doesnt serge much only when I come off throttle. At idle, it just lopes.
I would love to see this in person. maybe compare it to what I have. it is truly beautiful tho.
What is a "3 vane Eaton"? Manacharger uses Eaton superchargers, I wasn't aware that Eaton made different models. My Eaton is a 3 lobe with a twist. I wonder what the purpose of the distributor is? What benefit would it provide? As far as the surge, that is entirely tunable. Some guys like that lope, but it is a bitch to drive slow. Some of the surge came from fuel puddling, but a lot of it have to do with low rotating mass (no flywheel) the two fuel injected bikes I have can surge and there is no fuel puddling going on there. I can tune it out with timing and fuel adjustments. But the same can be done with a carb. To rich at idle will make it surge, but if you get too lean there will be an off idle stumble. |
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2011, 03:01:26 PM » |
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I looked at this bike a couple of years ago when it was on E-bay. It does look nice and I suspect runs as well. I was told the only thing the owner did was ride around town looking for sport bikes, was also told around 400 Hp and it did have NOS. The dist. was installed for unlimited timing adjustments. The bike was still in Genes Gallery as recently as last Feb when I stopped to check. I could not imagine trying to hang on at full throttle.
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2011, 03:26:11 PM » |
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Could the surge be coming from
fuel injection.
Seem to remember that the fuel injection
addition would be a cause.
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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2011, 03:29:13 PM » |
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Don't know if it's possible but I think that bike should be on the VRCC calendar if it hasn't already .... whadda you think ?? It is a SWEET looking bike  |
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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2011, 04:12:23 PM » |
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Could the surge be coming from
fuel injection.
Seem to remember that the fuel injection
addition would be a cause.
Shortleg[Dave]
Why? Why would proper fueling cause a surge? Though my bike isn't 400 hp, it doesn't surge at all. |
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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2011, 04:16:52 PM » |
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I looked at this bike a couple of years ago when it was on E-bay. It does look nice and I suspect runs as well. I was told the only thing the owner did was ride around town looking for sport bikes, was also told around 400 Hp and it did have NOS. The dist. was installed for unlimited timing adjustments. The bike was still in Genes Gallery as recently as last Feb when I stopped to check. I could not imagine trying to hang on at full throttle.
I don't see how a distributor would give you unlimited timing. I can understand it has an adjustable curve, and adjustable static timing and advance. I'm sure you could even retard timing during boost if it had the right distributor. But it seems there are a bunch of programmable ignitions that would be better. Compared to a mappable ignition system, I don't see the benefit. But I'm willing to listen. That said, there is always the "cool" factor. Because it does add to that. |
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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2011, 04:56:54 PM » |
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Would there be an advantage to the distrib. providing a single fire to each plug versus the stock coils (three coils) firing a dummy spark to a dead cylinder ??
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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2011, 05:03:51 PM » |
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that distibutor fires at about 45000 volts to each plug, one at a time... hence the advantage of the distributor. our stock setup CAN supply that kind of voltage BUT, the coils couldnt handle it for long. dyna coils is the answer. I get close to that(just about 41000 volts) from my stock module with dyna coils. the iridium plugs fire that off without a hassle.
I agree with jeff in referring to the "cool" factor.
He also states to have msd programmable ignition and a 4 bbl carb...I am running a 50mm kiehn right now and I have to do alot of playing to get it tuned in. I wont call him a liar, maybe just misinformed.
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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2011, 05:26:42 PM » |
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Sounds like the 3rd Generation Blower with the Mikuni,,NO Bypass tube,,400 HP? NOT!! guy is dreaming...i have NOT seen any Dyno slips for the Valk with over the 167 hp from Jeff, been Racing too long to believe the HP #'s without seeing a readout BS..My bike sounds stock at idle also Has Bypass. Here is a Generation 3 you can see behind the blower it has no bypass and has erratic idle....Does sound cool  Bypass for street is nice when your Blower belt comes off,,,"made it home" not sure you could without ???
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« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2011, 05:31:06 PM » |
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that distibutor fires at about 45000 volts to each plug, one at a time... hence the advantage of the distributor. our stock setup CAN supply that kind of voltage BUT, the coils couldnt handle it for long. dyna coils is the answer. I get close to that(just about 41000 volts) from my stock module with dyna coils. the iridium plugs fire that off without a hassle.
I agree with jeff in referring to the "cool" factor.
He also states to have msd programmable ignition and a 4 bbl carb...I am running a 50mm kiehn right now and I have to do alot of playing to get it tuned in. I wont call him a liar, maybe just misinformed.
Magnacharger puts a small 4 bbl on the Vmax supercharger kits. It might work ok on a Valk but there is headroom restrictions. |
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« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2011, 05:34:37 PM » |
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Got the Blower on opps? need a clutch 
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« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2011, 06:01:53 PM » |
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no doubt .... it does sound COOL |
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« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2011, 09:41:25 PM » |
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the magnacharger blower is not an eaton. different and it has a 2 vain roller. maybe have 3 rollers but only 2 vains on each. mine has 3 vains on each of the 3 rollers. i have the 12 lb pulley on it now, I do have an 18 lb pulley that gave me stupid numbers. with the nitros, i was worried about it. so, I leave it the way it is.eaton makes the snouts for the magnacharger. thats it.
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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2011, 05:08:02 AM » |
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the magnacharger blower is not an eaton. different and it has a 2 vain roller. maybe have 3 rollers but only 2 vains on each. mine has 3 vains on each of the 3 rollers. i have the 12 lb pulley on it now, I do have an 18 lb pulley that gave me stupid numbers. with the nitros, i was worried about it. so, I leave it the way it is.eaton makes the snouts for the magnacharger. thats it.
My bike has an Eaton M45 supercharger. I contacted Eaton about buying direct from them. They said that I would have to buy 15 of them at a time. and suggested I purchase them from Bill. They were making the reverse spin superchargers for him. http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/ProductsServices/PerformanceProducts/Products/Superchargers/M45/index.htmhttp://www.capa.com.au/eaton_m45data.htmBut now there are others selling counter rotating M45s If you are running something different than this I'd love to see some specs and pics I'm always in the market for something better. I had an autorotor supercharger setup, I loaned the supercharger out to help someone out that had a bad supercharger, and got the bone, never got it back, never got paid. Now I have a manifold and no supercharger. |
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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2011, 04:44:09 PM » |
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If things work out on a possible deal im working on, this one will be for sale cuz Im getting a bigger one.  we will see... |
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« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2011, 12:43:13 PM » |
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« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2011, 01:26:03 PM » |
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I almost... almost, bought a new manifold to move away from the billet manifold. But Then I'd have to bore hole in it for injector bosses, and I just didn't want to start another project. And the $$$ Bill wanted for a manifold was had to swallow.
I REALLY have to have a radiator made, I'm beyond fed up with cooling issues. But there goes a pile of money again...
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« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2011, 02:13:25 PM » |
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I almost... almost, bought a new manifold to move away from the billet manifold. But Then I'd have to bore hole in it for injector bosses, and I just didn't want to start another project. And the $$$ Bill wanted for a manifold was had to swallow.
I REALLY have to have a radiator made, I'm beyond fed up with cooling issues. But there goes a pile of money again...
I have a HD NX express kit for the same reason you explained ,, not wanting to drill the manifold to use a fogger system...so i have a nozzle on the J tube above the valve...sprays directly into the Blower, would like to spray directly into the cylinders,, some say the NOS will intercool and cool the blower and charge, Have you tried running around with the Pods off to see if the heat comes down. your FI system will run cleaner than the Old school Flatlside, can you fatten it up on your MAP a little to bring the cylinder temp down ? |
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« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2011, 02:56:50 PM » |
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WOW 400 HP!
I wonder if he could post a dyno curve to prove that claim.
If he could, I might just mortgage my house to buy it. But I believe that is more of a "sales pitch' HP number.
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I almost... almost, bought a new manifold to move away from the billet manifold. But Then I'd have to bore hole in it for injector bosses, and I just didn't want to start another project. And the $$$ Bill wanted for a manifold was had to swallow.
I REALLY have to have a radiator made, I'm beyond fed up with cooling issues. But there goes a pile of money again...
I have a HD NX express kit for the same reason you explained ,, not wanting to drill the manifold to use a fogger system...so i have a nozzle on the J tube above the valve...sprays directly into the Blower, would like to spray directly into the cylinders,, some say the NOS will intercool and cool the blower and charge, Have you tried running around with the Pods off to see if the heat comes down. your FI system will run cleaner than the Old school Flatlside, can you fatten it up on your MAP a little to bring the cylinder temp down ? I have a bit more tuning to do. I'm sure I could fatten up the idle and low cruise a bit. I haven't had the time to re-tune since i went to the dished pistons. Pods on or off don't make much difference, to the bike, but cooler to me. After all the home construction is done I need to spend some time on my dyno before I forget how to tune. Does you buddies Dyno have load control? |
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« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2011, 04:12:48 PM » |
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Not sure ? if load is controllable,,It does put the Bike Under load when he clicks a hand controlled button right before he hit's the throttle, He said it is (Windows) computer operating system, and has a AFR analyzer, very little hr's on it.  |
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« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2011, 09:58:14 PM » |
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Im installing a new supercharger in about 2 weeks. modifying the manifold so I can mount this thing. j-tube is gone. Ill get some picks with the 2 42mm mikuni's I'm gonna use plus a video of the dyno run when it done.
And my 2 12lb bottles are out where you can see them. they are polished...lol They will be on the bike as well once the new screw is put on.
I think the hardest part is going to be getting the carbs sync'd properly. I got 2 cylinders firing at the same time so, I gotta get the mix right from them.
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Im installing a new supercharger in about 2 weeks. modifying the manifold so I can mount this thing. j-tube is gone. Ill get some picks with the 2 42mm mikuni's I'm gonna use plus a video of the dyno run when it done.
And my 2 12lb bottles are out where you can see them. they are polished...lol They will be on the bike as well once the new screw is put on.
I think the hardest part is going to be getting the carbs sync'd properly. I got 2 cylinders firing at the same time so, I gotta get the mix right from them.
Anything new Dogg? Just thinking to do 2xsome carbs, one on each side of blower...no more Keihin with "hot air" aircleaner with original fuelpump and regulator... Today on dyno (1 gen. MagnaCharger) 133,83 hp. and 196,35nm. on wheel, with Cobras 6 to 6 with db-killers... Big problem>on 4200rpm. it goes very lean and goes leaner to the end. It allso losts the idle sometimes and runs idle only with little bit of choke. Any tips? |
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« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2011, 09:05:01 PM » |
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ran out of money....gotta slow down. got some parts, just waiting on a little more cash to finish off.  I am seriously trying to get this right before the hillbilly run...not sure. might have to just run the S&S I got if I cant sell my car(project bought to sell.) |
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Here's a "6" . Since I have got back into riding my brother is going to finish his "project". A couple of fluke problems and other interest since 1979 have left this sitting(in a heated garage) never fully debugged. This has around 2000 miles on it. This American Turbo Pack was on the street here in Ohio before Pee Wee Gleason had test rode one in the cycle magazine in 1979. A friend sold my brother his X to buy another one with a dealer installed turbo, he then took out #4 rod(I was following him and got in the oil!), my brother also bought the second bike and Turbo . He did run the Denco 6 into 6 for awhile, that's why I am anxious to put my 6-6 on mine. I remember with 0 boost it would destroy either of my bikes. The engine is 1233, 326hp. built by Dennis Dean (Denco)   |
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ran out of money....gotta slow down. got some parts, just waiting on a little more cash to finish off. I am seriously trying to get this right before the hillbilly run...not sure. might have to just run the S&S I got if I cant sell my car(project bought to sell.) Don't give up! |
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