Pitbulls

[RoadKill]

in the mid 80's there was a man that had a pit bull that pulled him around in his wheel chair,, he would let the kids play with the dog and pet it...one day he didnt show up and the police found the man behind the store,, the dog was eating the man,, the mans head was crushed from the bite of the dog...
i dont trust a pit bull...if one comes in my yard he will go for a ride in the trash truck on trash day...

My uncle was shot by a white guy....KILL 'EM ALL !

[RUDE DOG - Steelers]

Stats about Pitbulls attacking more than other breeds is also mostly bullshit to me.  I mean cmon, new and stats, those are never altered to someones agenda.  If you have an A-hole that is a Michael Vick type with dogs, yea, that dog will be aggressive.  It just so happens that Pitbulls were blessed with the most powerful jaws of any dog and people used that for the wrong reasons.  If you brutalize a Lab like these A-holes do to Pits and let the Lab run loose, it would be aggressive too.  Also, more people get bit by small dogs than big dogs.  The reason they arent in the stats is because, when they bit, people dont get hurt and laugh it off.  If not many small dogs would top the list with the most bites.

So shouldnt we ban guns?  Fast cars?  Give me a break, some of these comments really piss me off like Im listening to an illiterate kid in High School.  Its none of those, its the person that owns them. 

Jim C
You are the one that doesnt know what your talking about. Pits were used for fighting Bulls a hundred years ago, not for attacking people.  Sure, if they are purposely put in that situation and brutalized or die, they will get aggressive, just like you would. 

Pitbulls need to be owned by strong willed, dominant people, not people who lack confidence, timid or are scared or especially A-holes.  Anyone that believes a Pit should be shot because its a Pit, is in fact no better than Michael Vick and therefore a large A-hole.  I own 3 dogs, none of which are Pits, but it just really aggravates me when people stereo type the dog because of what people and the news make them out to be.   

[sugerbear]

"Pitbulls need to be owned by strong willed, dominant people, not people who lack confidence, timid or are scared or especially A-holes. "

is that why you don't own one?

[RoadKill]

Mase,dont let Max any where NEAR Jess Tolbirt ! I'm sure there is a little pitbull somewhere in that aggressive looking man killer!

[Jess Tolbirt]

Mase,dont let Max any where NEAR Jess Tolbirt ! I'm sure there is a little pitbull somewhere in that aggressive looking man killer!

Lets try this,
1973 - 28 kills, and they did absolutely nothing to me,,,,and i dont put a dogs life above a humans...
I did take one in the leg tho,, never found him,,

[Jeff K]

They have a reputation. My Daddy has a reputation as a drill instructor,doesnt mean I can bark orders like he does. It's like asking the Asian kid to translate the red symbols at bottom of a fortune cookie! What is the difference in racism and shooting an animal because it looks like a certain breed ? Can you identify a staffordshire terrier VS american pittbull terrier at a glance? Do Cubans look Mexican to you ?  Ask a puerto rican if that is a mexican flag in their car sometime,You will probably get a response from a PITT BULL!    

This is all getting twisted out of proportion. I would never advocate killing a dog just because it was a particular breed.
We have had several Dobermans. We had to put one down because I was sure that crazy ass dog was going to hurt someone some day. But I still love dobes.
But that said... I have the right to protect myself and family against a pack of anything that is aggressive at my front door. Even if it is a pack of white guys.

And I still stick with my original statement,  I hate pits, don't trust them, don't like them. That is my opinion as a dog owner. I don't like or trust ankle biters either.

My Assistant Engineer has a pit, he says it's a great family dog. But he also has to put it away when they have company, because HE doesn't trust it. And, he says that dog has scared him a few times. Yeah, great family dog...

[Jeff K]

Interesting thread. Myself, I won't judge a dog or person by their breeding or appearance. I will judge them by their actions, however. Going only by this story, exactly as presented, if a pack of dogs were to threaten me at the door of my own home I feel the 12ga. OO would come out since it would be a better defense than other methods. I don't know if I'd use it the first time as I can close the door and be safe for the moment, but a second occurrence and I have to side with the shoot & shovel crowd. You can't have packs of animals trapping you in your own home.

 

[Jeff K]

My 5 month old attack dog would get his ass handed to him.

http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll126/kozmic1520/?action=view&current=MVI_1225.mp4	powered by Aeva

He also has a new found respect for the cats food too. This was during his "those aren't your bowls" training.

http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll126/kozmic1520/Monty/?action=view&current=MVI_0897.mp4	powered by Aeva

[98valk]

“A study performed by the American Veterinary Medical Association, the Centers for Disease Control, and the Humane Society of the United States, analyzed dog bite statistics from the last 20 years and found that the statistics don’t show that any breeds are inherently more dangerous than others. The study showed that the most popular large breed dogs at any one time were consistently on the list of breeds that bit fatally. There were a high number of fatal bites from Doberman pinschers in the 1970s, for example, because Dobermans were very popular at that time and there were more Dobermans around, and because Dobermans’ size makes their bites more dangerous. The number of fatal bites from pit bulls rose in the 1980s for the same reason, and the number of bites from Rottweilers in the 1990s. The study also noted that there are no reliable statistics for nonfatal dog bites, so there is no way to know how often smaller breeds are biting.”

http://notesfromthefunnyfarm.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/which-dog-breed-is-most-likely-to-bite-you-might-be-surprised-at-the-answer/

http://www.humanesociety.org/animals/dogs/facts/statement_dangerous_dogs_breed_specific_legislation.html

Two decades ago, pit bulls and Rottweilers (the most recent breeds targeted) attracted little to no public concern. At that time it was the Doberman pinscher who was being vilified. In 2001, few people had heard of the Presa Canario breed, involved in the tragic, fatal attack on Diane Whipple in California in January of that year. Now that breed is being sought by individuals who desire the new "killer dog."
"and reveals that over the nineteen years examined in the study at least 25 different breeds or crossbreeds of dogs were involved in fatally wounding human beings. Breeds cited range from oft-maligned pit bulls and Rottweilers to the legendary "forever loyal" breed of St. Bernards. "

and in the 1950s into the 1960s it was German Shepards which were popular after WWII. growing up in the '60s just about everyone had a GS

[RUDE DOG - Steelers]

"Pitbulls need to be owned by strong willed, dominant people, not people who lack confidence, timid or are scared or especially A-holes. "

is that why you don't own one?

Nice how this is so amusing to you.  No thats not why I dont own one funny guy.  But it will be my next dog.  Based on your remarks, you fit the latter part of my description and are someone that will never own one.
"Anyone that believes a Pit should be shot because its a Pit, is in fact no better than Michael Vick and therefore a large A-hole."

[hubcapsc]

analyzed dog bite statistics from the last 20 years and found that the statistics don’t show that any breeds are inherently more dangerous than others.

All dogs might bite, including mine. I have to get her new kongs because she looses them in the woods. My buddy Kent has to get
his dogs new kongs because they can bite them in-two in just a few minutes... that red thing near the shoes is a Kong btw...



-Mike "still good doggies, though. And all of them are rescues... this one is much bigger now"

[fudgie]

When I was a kid a dog left with shot in his butt from g-pa. Around here no dog runs. There are a few livestock operations still near here. Since I been here I have not shot any. Some have come around but chased them away since they were not causing trouble. If they were to attack the livestock, then I would.

A coworker owns pits and they are very gentle. Its all in how they are raised. Thats like saying all bikers are gun toting, drug doing, law breakers.

[JimC]

Jim C
You are the one that doesnt know what your talking about. Pits were used for fighting Bulls a hundred years ago, not for attacking people.  Sure, if they are purposely put in that situation and brutalized or die, they will get aggressive, just like you would. 



Steelers

I never said that there are not any good pits!

I know that there are many, and your statement about pairing them up to strong willed people or owners is dead on, it can make a difference in the behavior of the dog. My point was that they have been bred for fighting, (you admitted that in your post)  A dog tends to revert to its breeding, you will notice that I did not say WILL Some pits may never be aggressive just like a dog bred for hunting can be gun shy and refuse to hunt.

My statement should have said that there is a greater chance of a pit turning aggressive than most other breeds due to their breeding through out time. I happen to think that pits are cute dogs, just like a whole lot of other people. But I stand by my statement that they do not belong in the AVERAGE household especially with little kids.

We will have to agree to dis-agree on this one.

Jim

 

[98valk]

some of u really, really need to educate yourselves about american pitbull terriers and dogs and their nature. Esp the story about someone being around the dog 1 or 2 times a yr and then surprised that it bit the person who in a dogs mind is a total stranger. that could be any dog that would do that. In the 19th century the pit was the family dog. Pete from the little rascals was a pit. Pits will automatically protect children, esp., the children in their household, nothing will harm their human children. Early 1900s after WWI they were the favorite family dog. The pit bull was so respected in the early 1900's that the military chose an image of a dignified pit bull to represent the country on WWI propaganda posters.
The pit bull is the only breed to have graced the cover of Life Magazine three times.

It is the eviliness, stupidity and ignorance of man about this breed that has caused all of the problems not the dog itself.

http://www.pitbull411.com/history.html

http://www.pitbulllovers.com/pitbull-articles/pit-bull-history.html

For their immense popularity in the 1900's, Pit bulls were the official American mascot during WWI - Pit bulls were the most decorated American dog of WWI. The American Pit Bull Terrier being the symbol of courage for the American army was also the most decorated dog during WWI.
http://ezinearticles.com/?10-Interesting-Facts-About-Pit-Bulls&id=3850401


In fact, according to the American Temperament Test Society (ATTS), American Pit Bulls (85.3 percent) and Staffordshire Bull Terriers (88 percent) have higher pass rates than almost all other breeds, including Collies, Golden Retrievers, Beagles, and Cocker Spaniels Dalmatians, often considered ideal “family dogs.”

Read more: http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-10-28/local-county-news/marines-could-lose-family-members-after-camp-pendleton-bans-pit-bulls#ixzz1BbJyZdZd

http://www.examiner.com/pet-life-in-national/sergeant-stubby-pit-bull-and-decorated-canine-war-hero

celebrites and their pits
http://www.cesarsway.com/node/967

[¿spoom]

I think folks are getting away from Jeff's post a little here. I don't care if they're Pitbulls, Nuns, Tribbles or Starfish-if they're running in packs and would seek to keep me from making it from my house to the truck, they need to get put down.

[Kaiser]

Thats like saying all bikers are gun toting, drug doing, law breakers.

We're not?!  When did that stop?  I never got the memo.

[Marcel]

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in the mid 80's there was a man that had a pit bull that pulled him around in his wheel chair,, he would let the kids play with the dog and pet it...one day he didnt show up and the police found the man behind the store,, the dog was eating the man,, the mans head was crushed from the bite of the dog...
i dont trust a pit bull...if one comes in my yard he will go for a ride in the trash truck on trash day...

This response says it all.

If you trust them you are crazy.

Too many people done been killed by these things.

I won't take a chance.

Shoot them if they growl at you period.

[fudgie]

Thats like saying all bikers are gun toting, drug doing, law breakers.

We're not?!  When did that stop?  I never got the memo.

Stops in the winter months for us!   

[RUDE DOG - Steelers]

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in the mid 80's there was a man that had a pit bull that pulled him around in his wheel chair,, he would let the kids play with the dog and pet it...one day he didnt show up and the police found the man behind the store,, the dog was eating the man,, the mans head was crushed from the bite of the dog...
i dont trust a pit bull...if one comes in my yard he will go for a ride in the trash truck on trash day...

This response says it all.

If you trust them you are crazy

Too many people done been killed by these things.

I won't take a chance.

Shoot them if they growl at you period.

Another moronic comment.  I trust my dogs more than most people.  Especially you.