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Marcel
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« on: January 23, 2011, 06:46:02 AM »

Already they are saying 5 bucks a Gallon.

By Summer.

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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2011, 07:34:21 AM »

Nah wont happen. If it gets that high demand will be down.

I remember in 08 when it got over $3. They had a patch at Sturgis that read "Gas was over $3 and I still road mine Sturgis 08"
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2011, 08:05:22 AM »

All this talk about $5 gas and our government still will not allow oil exploration or drilling.  Makes you wonder, who the real terrorists are!!

Usually when oil prices go up, then natural gas, and electrical prices go up.  Why is that??
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2011, 08:29:54 AM »

All this talk about $5 gas and our government still will not allow oil exploration or drilling.  Makes you wonder, who the real terrorists are!!

Usually when oil prices go up, then natural gas, and electrical prices go up.  Why is that??


Probably because all industries are affected by the higher energy costs.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 08:37:31 AM »

That is probably just a hoax, that way when it gets  to ONLY $4.00 per gallon we won't complain.

At least I hope it's a hoax.

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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 10:14:24 AM »

All this talk about $5 gas and our government still will not allow oil exploration or drilling.  Makes you wonder, who the real terrorists are!!

Usually when oil prices go up, then natural gas, and electrical prices go up.  Why is that??

It does make you wonder who the real terrorist are don't it...I bet these Voters are Conservatives..and to think they VOTE..can't imagine why this Country is in the position it is ? 
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2011, 10:29:42 AM »


 
A woman from Los Angeles who was a tree hugger, a liberal Democrat, and an anti-hunter, purchased a piece of timberland near Colville, WA .
 
There was a large tree on one of the highest points in the tract.  She wanted a good view of the natural splendor of her land so she started to climb the big tree.  As she neared the top she encountered a spotted owl that attacked her.  In her haste to escape, the woman slid down the tree to the ground and got many splinters in her crotch.
 
In considerable pain, she hurried to a local ER to see a doctor.  She told him she was an environmentalist, a democrat, and an anti-hunter and how she came to get all the splinters.  The doctor listened to her story with great patience and then told her to go wait in the examining room and he would see if he could help her.
 
She sat and waited three hours before the doctor reappeared.  The angry woman demanded, "What took you so long?" He smiled and then told her, "Well, I had to get permits from the Environmental Protection Agency, the Forest Service, and the Bureau of Land Management before I could remove old-growth timber from a "recreational area" so close to a waste treatment facility. I'm sorry, but due to ObamaCare they turned me down."
 
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2011, 10:30:32 AM »

If we had a CRAP load more nuke plants... energy would be cheap, and we could convert to Hydrogen and for get the gas altogether.  

Let the arabs eat their oil.  China can have it ALL.

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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2011, 10:51:36 AM »

Hotglue!! bahahahaha!!  Grin you been holding out, spit milk on the keyboard!! Jabba...I did all the carpet and flooring in the Nuke plant in San Onofre Ca, back in 82 so i have directly been a part in the building of the Nuke plant,....btw when i was working in the office putting the floor covering in, it was right on Blacks Beach,it had Field glasses on a tri pod! had to wait turns at lunch to look......Nude Beach Roll Eyes http://www.sce.com/powerandenvironment/powergeneration/sanonofrenucleargeneratingstation/default.htm  
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2011, 01:31:12 PM »

I found this, don't know if it's true. I have not researched it.

About 6 months ago, the writer was watching a news program on oil and one of the Forbes brothers was the guest. The host said to Forbes, "I am going to ask you a direct question and I would like a direct answer;  how much oil does the U.S. have in the ground?"  Forbes did not miss a beat, he said, "More than all the Middle East put together."

Please read below:

The U. S. Geological Service issued a report in April 2008 that only scientists and oil men knew was coming, but man was it big!  It was a revised report (which had not been updated since 1995) on how much oil was in this area of the western 2/3 of North Dakota , western South Dakota , and extreme eastern Montana ......

Check THIS out:

The Bakken is the largest domestic oil discovery since Alaska 's Prudhoe Bay , and has the potential to eliminate all American dependence on foreign oil. The Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates it at 503 billion barrels. Even if just 10% of the oil is recoverable. At $107 a barrel, we're looking at a resource base worth more than $5.3 trillion.

"When I first briefed legislators on this, you could practically see their jaws hit the floor. They had no idea." says Terry Johnson, the Montana Legislature's financial analyst.

"This sizable find is now the highest-producing onshore oil field found in the past 56 years," reports The Pittsburgh Post Gazette.  It's a formation known as the Williston Basin , but is more commonly referred to as the 'Bakken.'  It stretches from Northern Montana, through North Dakota and into Canada .  For years, U. S. oil exploration has been considered a dead end.  Even the 'Big Oil' companies gave up searching for major oil wells decades ago. However, a recent technological breakthrough has opened up the Bakken's massive reserves. We now have access of up to 500 billion barrels. And because this is light, sweet oil, those billions of barrels will cost Americans just $16 PER BARREL!

That's enough crude to fully fuel the American economy for 2041 years straight.  And if THAT didn't throw you on the floor, then this next one should - because the information is from 2006!

U. S. Oil Discovery- Largest Reserve in the World

Stansberry Report Online - 4/20/2006

Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky Mountains lies the largest untapped oil reserve in the world. It is more than 2 TRILLION barrels.  On August 8, 2005 President Bush mandated its extraction. In three and a half years of high oil prices none has been extracted. With this 'mother lode' of oil why are we still fighting over off-shore drilling?

They reported this stunning news: We have more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven reserves on earth. Here are the official estimates:

- 8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia

- 18-times as much oil as Iraq

- 21-times as much oil as Kuwait

- 22-times as much oil as Iran

- 500-times as much oil as Yemen

- and it's all right here in the Western United States .

HOW can this BE? HOW can we NOT BE extracting this? Because the environmentalists and others have blocked all efforts to help America become independent of foreign oil! Again, we are letting a small group of people dictate our lives and our economy.

WHY?

James Bartis, lead researcher with the study says we've got more oil in this very compact area than the entire Middle East -more than 2 TRILLION barrels untapped. That's more than all the proven oil reserves of crude oil in the world today, reportsThe Denver Post.

Don't think 'OPEC' will drop its price - even with this find?  Think again!  It's all about the competitive marketplace, - it has to.

Do ya' think OPEC just might be funding the environmentalists?

Got your attention yet?  Now, while you're thinking about it, do this:

Pass this along.   If you don't take a little time to do this, then you should stifle yourself the next time you complain about gas prices -

By doing NOTHING, you forfeit your right to complain. I guess someone here will google or snopes or one of those fact checking sites.
  If this were true??? we would have to get all the tree huggers out of the way so we could drill. Roll Eyes


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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2011, 01:59:01 PM »

While it wouldn’t surprise me that the US and its territories have more crude oil reserves than other places, it isn’t the type of crude we need.  All crude oil is not created equal.  The main reason we use Middle Eastern crude is because of its relatively high content of fuel grade components.  This “light sweet crude” produces more fuel than all of the crude found here, and that is why refineries abandoned Texas crude and other types in favor of LSC.  If we use US crude, be prepared to pay a lot more for fuel, and have other industries that depend on the remaining components of petroleum to go out of business due to the bottom dropping out of the prices.

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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2011, 05:37:16 PM »

One more lie from the Left...Anybody knows the speculators and Wall street are falsely driving up the price of oil !! Maybe when people wake up and noticed the free fall of oil stock when Bush lifted the moratorium oil plummeted,, But Wall street's friend the POTUS had to take care of his buddies and look what is happening now!!   Here is some Liberal News for the lefties that were to busy Hating the last POTUS and missed a important lesson!!  from CNBC ...i could put some FOX articles here but that would be to easy.....In a dramatic move yesterday President Bush removed the executive-branch moratorium on offshore drilling. Today, at a news conference, Bush repeated his new position, and slammed the Democratic Congress for not removing the congressional moratorium on the Outer Continental Shelf and elsewhere. Crude-oil futures for August delivery plunged $9.26, or 6.3 percent, almost immediately as Bush was speaking, bringing the barrel price down to $136.

Now isn’t this interesting?

Democrats keep saying that it will take 10 years or longer to produce oil from the offshore areas. And they say that oil prices won’t decline for at least that long. And they, along with Obama and McCain, bash so-called oil speculators. And today we had a real-world example as to why they are wrong. All of them. Reid, Pelosi, Obama, McCain — all of them.

Traders took a look at a feisty and aggressive George Bush and started selling the market well before a single new drop of oil has been lifted. What does this tell us? Well, if Congress moves to seal the deal, oil prices will probably keep on falling. That’s the way traders work. They discount the future. Psychology and expectations can turn on a dime.

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Oil Prices Below $139 on US Economic Worries

The congressional ban on offshore drilling expires September 30, so that becomes a key date. A new report from Wall Street research house Sanford C. Bernstein says that California actually could start producing new oil within one year if the moratorium were lifted. The California oil is under shallow water and already has been explored. Drilling platforms have been in place since before the moratorium. They’re talking about 10 billion barrels worth off the coast of California.

There’s also a “gang of 10” in the Senate, five Republicans and five Democrats, that is trying to work a compromise deal on lifting the moratorium. So it’s possible a lot of action on this front could occur much sooner than people seem to think.

So I repeat: Drill, drill, drill. Deregulate, decontrol, and unleash the American energy industry. Those hated traders will then keep selling oil as the laws of supply and demand and free markets keep working.

Bravo for Bush. Bravo for the traders.
© 2011 CNBC, Inc. All Rights Reserved http://www.cnbc.com/id/25691496/Bush_Says_Drill_Drill_Drill_And_Oil_Drops_9
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2011, 06:08:38 AM »

While it wouldn’t surprise me that the US and its territories have more crude oil reserves than other places, it isn’t the type of crude we need.  All crude oil is not created equal.  The main reason we use Middle Eastern crude is because of its relatively high content of fuel grade components.  This “light sweet crude” produces more fuel than all of the crude found here, and that is why refineries abandoned Texas crude and other types in favor of LSC.  If we use US crude, be prepared to pay a lot more for fuel, and have other industries that depend on the remaining components of petroleum to go out of business due to the bottom dropping out of the prices.



To be very polite:  What a crock!

I live and work in the Bakken area.  Running a company there servicing the oil wells.  Producing oil there, drilling all the time.  I guess according to Bobbo, they are just stockpiling it and not using it.  Just drilling for the fun of it.

What a crock!

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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2011, 06:54:18 AM »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350021/Petrol-rationing-proposed-MPs-prices-set-hit-8-gallon-summer.html
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2011, 07:50:54 AM »

To be very polite:  What a crock!

I live and work in the Bakken area.  Running a company there servicing the oil wells.  Producing oil there, drilling all the time.  I guess according to Bobbo, they are just stockpiling it and not using it.  Just drilling for the fun of it.

What a crock!

MP

You have (probably intentionally) misunderstood my post.  Drilling and pumping of crude takes place all over the US.  It is not stockpiled, but refined into its components.  The difference is it produces less fuel components than Middle Eastern LSC, which is what the OP is concerned with.  The constant call for reduction of LSC imports and more drilling and use of US crude would overproduce the heavier components found in US crude, driving their price down.  Since the refineries would make less money on the non-fuel components, and have less fuel from US crude, they would have to charge more for the fuel.

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