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Author Topic: Helmets and intercoms??  (Read 2423 times)
custom1
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« on: February 17, 2011, 01:01:02 PM »

I searched a little but didn't find a specific answer. I am going to be buying new helmets and am leaning toward HJC modular either symax  or is-max. I wear glasses and like the integrated sun sheild. Not dead set on those, I haven't looked around much yet. Definitely want a full face or modular tho.

I was given two older 3/4 helmets with the bike that have the honda headsets. Can I use them somehow on the new helmets? Has anyone done this or do I have to buy new headsets for the new helmets? I thought the speakers would probably fit ok and just have to modify the mic somehow. I am not really interested in using bluetooth or anything, just want to use the factory intercom and CB and plug an mp3 into the aux plug. If I do have to buy new does anyone have a source for some reasonably priced ones? I would rather put the $ in the tank than headsets.





I didn't realize I was in the tech section. So if this should be in general  I can delete it and re-post over there or Admin can move it if you want. Sorry bout that.  uglystupid2
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2011, 02:10:39 PM »

I installed my old headsets in my new HJC helmets. I had to pull out the earpieces on the helmet and modify the styrofoam (cut a little out) to get the speakers to fit. It works great.
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2011, 05:01:10 PM »

The microphone should just clamp on the edge of the helmet. With mine they used 2 set screws. I had to ues some small rubber pieces on the inside to give it some extra bite.
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2011, 05:33:27 PM »

I just had delivered 2 HJC CL-Max helmets from here.

http://www.motorcyclegear.com/?n

discounted at $65 ea, bought two (his/hers) so I would not have to pay shipping.

I still haven't made a decision yet on what system to use for my intercom, you have that solved, or at least would like to continue using what you already own.

Ear speakers are fairly inexpensive, and should be able to be installed into most new helmets.
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custom1
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2011, 05:40:30 PM »

Do you guys have any pics? My concern is the boom style mic fitting inside the full face or modular helmet. Plus it clamps to the outside on the 3/4 so how does it mount to the modular? I'll have to take one off a go to the helmet store and size it up I guess. Probably obvious to those that have done it. Maybe I'm just over-thinking it.
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2011, 06:06:12 PM »

from my experience with an outside mounted boom like the one pictured doesn't work well with a modular full face, unless maybe you get into some serious modification with the boom. You would be better off in the long run to get the headsets designed for modular helmets.
HJC symax with the built in shade ~ I have one of those, I like the helmet but very rarely do I use the sun shade, the sun has to be really intense right in front of me before I use it, but I do always wear sunglasses too, so that may have a lot to do with my amount of usage. Another point about said helmet, in the winter, I can actually feel cold air getting to the top of my head through the slot for operation of the shade. Just my opinion and observances.

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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011, 09:25:46 AM »

We have Arai RX-Q helmets, which are not modular, but this is the intercom set we're buying. The reviews are really good, and they do have photos on their website showing them with a modular helmet. Available for about $299 for a dual pack...

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-intercoms/sena-smh10-intercom/sena-smh10-part-2.htm
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011, 11:01:12 AM »

I have done this with my son's modular Nolan helmet with the "Honda" headset.  It isn't the cleanest install but the boys (16 and 11) have plenty of room in the chin bar for the mike.  They put the helmet on with the chin bar open and mike out of the way.  Then they position the mike, close the chin bar and reposition the mike so it is in front of their mouths.  A little more work than my setup (Shark Evoline modular with J&M headset with mike inside liner) but it works well enough.  I can get pictures when I get home if you need them. 

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custom1
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2011, 01:27:33 PM »

Thanks for the replies. Joe it sounds like you have done exactly what I'm trying to do. Any pics would be appreciated. I did stop by a couple bike shops today and learned a lot. It looks like they will clamp right on there and the speakers will work even though they are a bit larger than whats available now. I think the old boom mic will fit in there if I don't use the old large foam windsock. I won't know till I get it all together and up to speed if there will be wind noise. If so I'll have to cover the mic with some thin foam or material so it still fits. Not much space in there. If I can make it work and save $300 it's well worth it to me.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2011, 03:52:40 PM »







Here are some pics I just took.  The boys have a lot more room in the helmet than I do... Shocked  It was a tight fit to put the mic inside the chin bar.  I would say that you could have the mike under your chin and still be heard.  Might have to turn the intercom volume up a little more.  It really does work better on them.  Cheesy  How this helps. 

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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2011, 04:29:43 PM »

Thanks for the replies. Joe it sounds like you have done exactly what I'm trying to do. Any pics would be appreciated. I did stop by a couple bike shops today and learned a lot. It looks like they will clamp right on there and the speakers will work even though they are a bit larger than whats available now. I think the old boom mic will fit in there if I don't use the old large foam windsock. I won't know till I get it all together and up to speed if there will be wind noise. If so I'll have to cover the mic with some thin foam or material so it still fits. Not much space in there. If I can make it work and save $300 it's well worth it to me.

Thaht's the same thing in did with my wife's modular. I did use the smallest windsock J&M has, and it all works fine. I can still hear her telling me what to do. But then I don't think I need the intercom system for that  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2011, 10:11:45 PM »

Thanks Joe. Once again you guys go above and beyond. Awesome pics. That's exactly what I concluded at the bike shop today. I am going to try it without the windsock. I don't think I could handle that jammed in there very long. If there is too much wind noise I'll have to figure out something else. Maybe I could find just a smaller mic and swap them out. Probably just two wires in the boom to splice.  After trying a few helmets today I'm fairly set on getting the IS-Max. Thanks again.
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2011, 01:32:53 AM »

i wouldn't stop looking at bluetooth i have one and love it . you can pair them use as an intercom stream music and mine as a built in fm radio. it is a full face. i have tried all sorts of helmets and my least favorite is the modulars the are heavy and full of wind noise. If i wanted all that racket i would save the wieght and wear a half helmet which i have one and love, but for quiet and comfort and all the other things i wear a fullface. the one i wear {not to advertise] ends with neal
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2011, 06:39:59 AM »

This outfit started off making throat mics for combat/tactical operations.  Throat mics transmit with no wind noise.  they now have motor sport applications.  No boom to deal with.

http://www.clearercom.com/motorsports.htm

http://www.clearercom.com/motorcycle_headset_GP.htm

http://www.clearercom.com/throat-mic-headsets.html
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