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sugerbear
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« on: February 17, 2011, 06:29:29 PM »

how long will a "clip" spring maintain it's "springiness" when fully loaded?

coupla weeks?  coupla years?  coupla decades?  i have no idea.

springfield xd 40

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Marcel
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2011, 07:06:57 PM »

Spring Steel does not change, it is always spring steel.

Clean them regularly and oil very lightly and you will probably not out live the spring in them.

AL
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RoadKill
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2011, 07:14:34 PM »

I agree with Al..But buy another one and rotate it out every few months if it helps you sleep.

P.S. It is probably a Magazine not a "Clip" ,Sorry to Willow if I tread on his territory with such a correction  2funny
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2011, 07:23:36 PM »

I agree with the above posts.  I wouldnt worry about them.
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2011, 08:58:05 PM »

yep as above, the only thing loaded in my house is the .357 revolver w/ glaser safety slugs
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solo1
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011, 05:59:10 AM »

I've never had a problem with loaded magazines not feeding properly after years of being loaded..  The 'clip' is really called a magazine.  One of the only weapons that I know of that used a clip was the M1 Garand with its 8 round clip.

I've taught firearm classes for some time and this comes up, same with 'bullets' that are really rounds or cartridges.  Movies and the media never get it right.

Very good question about magazines. cooldude

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sugerbear
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011, 06:44:04 AM »

i guess i got used to saying clip. for a long time i used a 6.5 carcano. it used clips.

like the m1 the clip would drop out of the bottom when empty.

and thanks for the answers. guess i just won't worry about it and leave the magazines full cooldude
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011, 07:17:48 AM »

The Garand clip flies out the top, not the bottom.

Most modern magazine springs can stay compressed for years (maybe decades) with no problem.  Any Sp XD will have modern magazines.  Still.... I would have at least 4-5 mags (up to 9) for any primary defense weapon, and no need to keep more than two loaded at home, so changing out loaded to unloaded is not a bad practice, say every 6 months. 

The actual problem with modern mags is not the compressed spring, but can be a slow deformation of the mag lips (metal fatigue), or an out-of-round top cartridge from the fully compressed spring pressure (either of which can cause a malfunction).... notice how hard the last couple rounds are to load?  So if you keep one or two loaded mags forever, which is probably OK, it is not a bad idea to load only... say 10 of 13, like my Browning High Power (2 10 round mags should handle any problem.... if not I go to the 870). 

For example, see the MagPul P-Mags for AR15/M4s.... they now have a top dust cover for a fully loaded 30/20 rd mags to keep dirt out,  but also they push the top round down just enough to keep the top round from contacting the mag lips.  So 8 30 round mags can stay fully loaded in my load bearing vest with no worry.



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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2011, 07:51:18 AM »

Hey Jess, DAMN !!! I`m going to follow you in case of what-ever.  Wink Talk about "loaded for" !!!

WHEW !
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2011, 09:17:56 AM »

Cheap mag - weeks/years
Quality mag - decades/lifetime

But it is a bad idea, you need several anyway so rotate them.
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2011, 11:30:43 AM »

There have been Vietnam Vets that have found loaded mags they brought back from the war and forgot about till finding them 20+ years later.  They fired the ammo without a magazine failure.  The problems do not lie with the springs.  The springs suffer metal fatigue from use .  A continuously loaded mag is not a problem for the spring.  Like Jess said, feed lips can become deformed.  The big problem is the ammunition becoming deformed from the pressure of the spring pushing them into other rounds.  Law Enforcement Officers are taught to strip their mags once a month and reload them to prevent this.  Also, they usually fire their carry ammo during their qualification and are issued new at least twice a year.

Marty
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Marcel
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2011, 12:04:14 PM »

It was a good question to ask.

Better to ask now than when in a fire fight.

Always be prepared.

The best way to gaurantee peace,,,,,,,, is be ready to fight.

Al
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2011, 01:49:07 PM »

Hey Jess, DAMN !!! I`m going to follow you in case of what-ever.  Wink Talk about "loaded for" !!!

WHEW !

Well..... it's not like that is a riding vest.  LOL 

Loaded Sig 220, six .45 mags, 8 30rd 5.56 mags, 6 OO buck rounds, and a K-bar, make that puppy a tad heavy for casual wear.  LOL

But it is ready.  Like Al Marcel said, if you want peace prepare to fight for war.

That famous Chinese tactician also wrote..... "you cannot throw a potato chip."    Grin
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