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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2011, 12:01:43 PM » |
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OSS and I met up with the Dept. of Homeland Security at a road block about an hour north of Americade. They just waived us on through.
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Oss
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2011, 12:44:55 PM » |
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Pretty regular checkpoint on 301 east to west one lane each way in Fahnstock State Park Long as the inspection sticker is on the bike have not had a problem. Will check the stickers when I get home thanks for the heads up It may help that when on the Valk there is an NYPD 911 sticker on the windshield  Eyewear the state patrol is looking for ANSI rated eye protection or goggles I agree with you here Bobbo, big brother is out there and the enemy is us |
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011, 01:15:59 PM » |
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It may help that when on the Valk there is an NYPD 911 sticker on the windshield Yes, those things can make a difference. A few years back a tragedy took the lives of a policeman and two firefighters. Since I have two family members on the police force, and my son was in training to become a firefighter, I had red and blue ribbons intertwined with a black ribbon on my handlebars. On a DWI checkpoint that had a lot of bikes pulled over (it was close to the wineries), the officer saw my ribbons, and waved me through, saying "Thanks for your support!"  |
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 01:20:10 PM » |
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Here in MI we have had police pull over motorcyclists that are not wearing full face helmets, then declareing that they are not legal.
These officers know nothing of the laws, because it doesn't matter what type, brand, with or without "DOT" stickers. They claim only full face helmets are legal and if you are not wearing a full face lid they ticket you and confiscate your motorcycle.
Don't you just love rouge cops? (SARCASM)
This alone should be cause for any rider to join the AMA, ABATE and the MRF.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011, 02:14:45 PM » |
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Now let me get this straight, we ALL have to be groped at the airport because they can't profile and search only Muslim looking dudes, but it's OK to stop only motorcyclist?? Are only motorcycles stolen? Not cars and trucks?
There are no cars or trucks with loud exhaust systems either. And only the motorcyclists are prone to drink in the wine country as well.
Wake up people! Get the government back to securing the borders and protecting us from foreign powers, and the hell out of our lives.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011, 02:31:19 PM » |
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Now let me get this straight, we ALL have to be groped at the airport because they can't profile and search only Muslim looking dudes, but it's OK to stop only motorcyclist?? Are only motorcycles stolen? Not cars and trucks?
There are no car or trucks with loud exhaust systems either. ANd only the motorcyclist are prone to drink in the wine country as well.
Wake up people! Get the government back to securing the borders and protecting us from foreign powers, and the hell out of our lives.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011, 04:45:15 PM » |
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I got stopped twice last year at (Safety check points) One at the Springfield mile and one at Savanna, They never checked any safety equipment, only if I had a MC Lic, registration and insurance card. What is safety related about that?
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2011, 05:35:33 PM » |
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Safety MY ASS.
As operated, these appear to be harassment..... and something called "a fishing expedition," no probable cause, no articulable suspicion.
DUI checkpoints, with 100% checks have been found legal. I do not think these stops pass muster.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2011, 05:48:57 PM » |
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Safety MY ASS.
As operated, these appear to be harassment..... and something called "a fishing expedition," no probable cause, no articulable suspicion.
DUI checkpoints, with 100% checks have been found legal. I do not think these stops pass muster.
Thank you for your professional opinion. I'm not a professional, but I agree. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2011, 06:16:26 PM » |
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All valid complaints. One of the problems that I have is that the check points are federally funded with our tax dollars. We are flat broke and looking for ways to save money. Getting rid of crap like this would save a few dollars. So lets all send off an email to our elected officials. I have sent mine today. http://www.contactingthecongress.org/Save the web site for future use...as the hand basket gets closer to hell you may need it more. |
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2011, 06:33:46 PM » |
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Good point Brad, not only are they harassment, they are a waste of our money.
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2011, 07:15:09 AM » |
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An American is free not to live there.
Keep in mind, this is being funded by the FEDERAL government, which means if it's not stopped now, you can bet even free states like ours will eventually give in to the temptation of uncle sugar's dollars... |
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2011, 12:08:42 PM » |
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An American is free not to live there.
Keep in mind, this is being funded by the FEDERAL government, which means if it's not stopped now, you can bet even free states like ours will eventually give in to the temptation of uncle sugar's dollars... "The NHTSA is offering a grant worth up to a total of $350,000 to law enforcement agencies for setting up traffic checkpoints that target only motorcycles. The grant, known as the Motorcycle Law Enforcement Demonstration grant program, will be open to up to five agencies, and will be used to study the effectiveness of such programs." So five law enforcement agencies get to test this program on our dime and based on the "effectiveness" of this test it could be rolled out to more. We know New York is one, who are the other four? |
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2011, 12:39:48 PM » |
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Don't you just love rouge cops? (SARCASM)
Call us what ya want brother, we were only following orders. Like em or not, but that was our job and what we were paid to do....... So don't blame us, start with Bam Bam and come on down. It was just like the military, sheet all rolls downhill. Thank you.  |
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2011, 12:47:21 PM » |
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Don't you just love rouge cops? (SARCASM)
Call us what ya want brother, we were only following orders. Like em or not, but that was our job and what we were paid to do....... So don't blame us, start with Bam Bam and come on down. It was just like the military, sheet all rolls downhill. Thank you. +1 |
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2011, 07:02:37 PM » |
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Not to had fuel to the fire but just cause you are told to do something doesn't make legal or the right thing to do. Correct me if i am wrong but aren't the police suposed to uphold the law first and protect not harrass people.
Also those of you who choose to live in a state that is not free you have a duty to change that at the ballot box
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2011, 07:37:35 PM » |
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Don't you just love rouge cops? (SARCASM)
Call us what ya want brother, we were only following orders. Like em or not, but that was our job and what we were paid to do....... So don't blame us, start with Bam Bam and come on down. It was just like the military, sheet all rolls downhill. Thank you. I certainly don't blame the police officers, but I might make an exception with the police chief and police board in that area. I'd like to see the research that lead to the feds setting up this fund. |
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2011, 09:21:55 AM » |
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State Cops run the stops. It is definetly harrasment. They MAKE you ref to 6000 rpm and take a Db reading. I laughed when I told him who fast I would have to go to tach that!That supposedly was changed to a formula taking in account the amount of cylinders the bikes has.
This one was on Rt. 84 first stop over the Newburgh/Beacon Bridge on a Sunday that Marcus Dairy was on. The Whole 9 yards, papers, tires, lights, eye protection. Forty Five minutes of being treated like a criminal.
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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2011, 09:44:15 AM » |
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Guess thats another reason for me not to go to NY. |
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2011, 12:40:01 PM » |
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Here in MI we have had police pull over motorcyclists that are not wearing full face helmets, then declareing that they are not legal.
These officers know nothing of the laws, because it doesn't matter what type, brand, with or without "DOT" stickers. They claim only full face helmets are legal and if you are not wearing a full face lid they ticket you and confiscate your motorcycle.
WTH !? Where did that happen? I wear a full face personally but damn, that's just WRONG!!! |
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Walküre
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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2011, 01:01:40 PM » |
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Here in MI we have had police pull over motorcyclists that are not wearing full face helmets, then declareing that they are not legal.
These officers know nothing of the laws, because it doesn't matter what type, brand, with or without "DOT" stickers. They claim only full face helmets are legal and if you are not wearing a full face lid they ticket you and confiscate your motorcycle.
WTH !? Where did that happen? I wear a full face personally but damn, that's just WRONG!!! Strange that they would say that - this is off the official Michigan State Police site: Helmet: Use a DOT Approved safety helmet that lets you see as far to the sides as necessary. Make sure the fit is snug and the helmet has no obvious defects such as cracks, loose padding or frayed straps. Also, never wear a helmet that has been involved in a crash or dropped on the ground. This could ruin the effectiveness of the helmet. A full face helmet is strongly recommended for all riders. But it doesn't say mandatory. Here's the link: http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1593_3504_22760-13676--,00.htmlEDIT: Found this, too - evidently, it's up to the POLICE to determine what helmet is approved... Crash helmets shall be approved by the department of state police. The department of state police shall promulgate rules for the implementation of this section from this page: http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1589_1711_4587-16062--,00.html |
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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2011, 01:41:15 PM » |
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back years ago when Pa had a helmet law we went threw the same crap. the state police was supposed to come up with a list every year of legal helmets. that list never was made so people wore what they wanted to..the only technical thing that was instituted was that the helmets could not have any objects protruding from them..i remember being on a ride one day with a group of bikes and one lady was wearing a glass candy dish with with a strap on it, and the feet sticking up..we all got pulled over..only fine that day was her..not because of the legality of a glass helmet but because of the feet sticking out the top..during the last year of our helmet law..Gettysburg police decided to take it upon themselves to act like judge and jury..they stopped every bike going into Gettysburg and if the rider was wearing a helmet that they deemed not worthy..whether it was DOT appoved or not..they would escort you to Gettyburg harley davidson dealer and give you an option..either purchase a new helmet or get a ticket..i seriously believe that gettyburg HD and the local cops were in cahoots with one another..it's only a matter of time before we get our helmet law back. as far as wearing mine..i wear it 99% of the time. only time i don't like to wear it is when it's over 90 degrees with over 70% humitity..
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