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thedon
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« on: March 18, 2011, 08:50:26 AM »

Subject: [Cycle eNews] AIM/NCOM MOTORCYCLE E-NEWS SERVICE: NCOM Biker Newsbytes March 2011
THE AIM/NCOM MOTORCYCLE E-NEWS SERVICE is brought to you by Aid to Injured Motorcyclists (A.I.M.) and the National Coalition of Motorcyclists (NCOM), and is sponsored by the Law Offices of Richard M. Lester. If you’ve been involved in any kind of accident, call us at 1-(800) ON-A-BIKE or visit www.ON-A-BIKE.com.
 
NCOM BIKER NEWSBYTES
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MOTORCYCLISTS AWAIT ROADBLOCK RULING
Motorcycle riders across the country are anxiously awaiting a decision from the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of New York which they hope will declare New York’s “motorcycle only” roadblocks to be unconstitutional. The so-called “safety checkpoints”, which target well-known motorcycle events, force motorcyclists to leave the roadway, regardless of any wrongdoing, and have their persons and property inspected for equipment violations, proper paperwork, DUI and stolen VIN numbers. The National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA) is now providing Federal funding for law enforcement to conduct such motorcycle-only checkpoints nationwide despite objections raised by members of Congress and legal challenges from the biker community.
 
The New York lawsuit is the first to challenge the constitutionality of motorcycle checkpoints. The plaintiffs are being represented by Proner & Proner, led by N.Y. Aid to Injured Motorcyclists (A.I.M.) Attorney Mitch Proner, a motorcycle-riding lawyer who has a long history of doing “pro bono” (free) legal work to protect the rights of motorcyclists. The Proner law firm commenced the lawsuit on behalf of four motorcyclists who were detained at two separate checkpoints, as well as representing the interests of ABATE of New York and the National Coalition of Motorcyclists (NCOM).
 
The checkpoints in question are funded by a grant from the New York Governor’s Traffic Safety Committee and the troopers who work them are paid overtime. Although the stated purpose of the checkpoints is to promote safety, the majority of the more than a thousand tickets which were issued during the first year of the checkpoints had nothing to do with safety and instead focused on non-safety violations such as loud pipes. The written guidelines for the checkpoints specifically state that one of the purposes of the checkpoints is to look for stolen and forged VINs and the police readily admit that they often have undercover members of their gang and auto theft units working the checkpoints looking for signs of criminal activity.
 
According to Proner, the Supreme Court of the United States has repeatedly made it clear that any roadway checkpoint whose primary purpose is general crime control constitutes an unreasonable search and seizure under the Fourth Amendment and is presumptively unconstitutional. Notwithstanding that fact, the progress reports which the police prepared on the checkpoints specifically state that the grant funds are used “for overtime for intelligence gathering and the subsequent criminal and traffic enforcement.” The police admit that the checkpoints, which focus only on equipment violations and forged and stolen VINs, do not address any of the major causes of motorcycle accidents such as reckless driving, driver inattentiveness and alcohol impairment.
 
The case, Wagner et al. v. The County of Schenectady, et al. could wind up in the U.S. Supreme Court. The future of motorcyclists’ rights hangs in the balance.
 
BILLS INTRODUCED TO PROHIBIT MOTORCYCLE-ONLY CHECKPOINTS
Even as Georgia police prepared to launch the nation’s first federally-funded motorcycle-only checkpoints during Daytona Bike Week, lawmakers in Washington were taking steps to cut federal funding for the controversial practice.
 
Wisconsin Reps. Jim Sensenbrenner, Paul Ryan and Tom Petri introduced House Resolution 904 on March 3rd that would prohibit the secretary of transportation from providing funds to state and local governments for the use of motorcycle-only traffic checkpoints.
 
“The first step in motorcycle crash prevention should be rider education and increased awareness. Taxpayer money should not be spent on helmet checkpoints that do not prevent crashes," Petri said in a news release. "Also, it's outrageously intrusive. Nobody is suggesting pulling cars off the road for unscheduled inspections, so why are motorcycle riders being harassed?"
 
“We stand in solidarity against the unconstitutional use of motorcycle-only checkpoints being implemented in Georgia, and may be coming to your state soon,” said Escondido Paul, National Lt. Commander of the US Defenders, in issuing a Call To Action (CTA) urging all motorcyclists to contact their federal officials to “solicit their support against grant money being used by the Federal Government to induce other States to participate in such discriminatory actions!”
 
In related news, bills have been recently introduced in New Hampshire (HB 148) and California (AB 1047) to prohibit any state law enforcement agency from accepting federal funding to establish motorcycle-only roadside checkpoints.
 
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Rocketman
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2011, 10:21:06 AM »

Are these actually motorcycle only, as in, they are only pulling over motorcycles?  Or, are they targeting motorcycle-specific events, and thus getting mostly motorcycles?
This is not to imply picking a side, or even imply whether the answer matters, but they stated it was, so I want to know whether it truly is.
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Bobbo
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2011, 11:45:09 AM »

Are these actually motorcycle only, as in, they are only pulling over motorcycles?  Or, are they targeting motorcycle-specific events, and thus getting mostly motorcycles?
This is not to imply picking a side, or even imply whether the answer matters, but they stated it was, so I want to know whether it truly is.

We discussed this a few weeks ago, and unfortunately, these checkpoints are specifically for motorcycles ONLY.  They check things like exhaust sound levels, helmets, paperwork, and a slew of other revenue and intelligence enhancers, and do nothing for overall safety of motorists.
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Brad
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2011, 12:02:38 PM »

Are these actually motorcycle only, as in, they are only pulling over motorcycles?  Or, are they targeting motorcycle-specific events, and thus getting mostly motorcycles?
This is not to imply picking a side, or even imply whether the answer matters, but they stated it was, so I want to know whether it truly is.

We discussed this a few weeks ago, and unfortunately, these checkpoints are specifically for motorcycles ONLY.  They check things like exhaust sound levels, helmets, paperwork, and a slew of other revenue and intelligence enhancers, and do nothing for overall safety of motorists.

And WE are helping to pay for them through a grant from NHTSA.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2011, 03:36:21 PM »

Not only is it motorcyclist harassment (pure and simple), but with money we don't have to spend.

Send those dollars to the Southern border.
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2011, 06:13:16 PM »

I hope all the folks involved are successful in getting this abuse of power stopped.
My hat is off to them!

BTW, lawmakers here in Florida are very seriously considering outlawing red light cameras. I'm all for that too! cooldude
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2011, 05:59:02 AM »

Are these actually motorcycle only, as in, they are only pulling over motorcycles?  Or, are they targeting motorcycle-specific events, and thus getting mostly motorcycles?
This is not to imply picking a side, or even imply whether the answer matters, but they stated it was, so I want to know whether it truly is.

We discussed this a few weeks ago, and unfortunately, these checkpoints are specifically for motorcycles ONLY.  They check things like exhaust sound levels, helmets, paperwork, and a slew of other revenue and intelligence enhancers, and do nothing for overall safety of motorists.

I only ask because I've seen "all-vehicle" checkpoints, and have been interviewed as part of one.  There are issues with all-vehicle checkpoints as well, but I didn't want to get bogged down in a "they're targeting motorcycles" discussion if they're not.  I see that happen too often.  Politicians/PR people, etc. try to get people whipped up via whatever will get them whipped up, facts be cursed.  I hate seeing irrational/incorrect arguments being used, especially if it is in favor of a position I support.
Thanks for the clarification.

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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2011, 07:52:13 AM »

we boycotted georgia all together on our way to daytona.. no stops in georgia at all no gas , food , nothing, we use to stop at hooters and eat walk around the junk yard next door then down the road not this year. hope somebody sets them arses straight.. got my vote
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