Horrific abuse, kids rescued in the Ozarks.

[ArmyValker]

Having a little girl sitting here on my lap, this story really hit home. I actually had just sat down to eat, and I've lost my appetite.

Horrible situation. Some of the worst photos I've seen.

http://www.ky3.com/news/kfsm-three-people-arrested-after-babies-found-beaten-starved-20110316,0,7406443.story

Thank god those kids are outta that situation! I definitely couldn't be a police officer.

[ArmyValker]

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[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

They should hang them from the highest tree and let the flies and maggots take care of them....They'll probably send them to " Group " and give them the kids back ...Sad damn world we live in today 

[Bama Red]

Some folks just need killin'.

Isn't a jury in the country that'd convict you.

[shank]

W T F is wrong with people.. I agree with Joe, Hang em

[old2soon]

Now i ain't the smartest person on the face of gods planet here-but being a parent carrys some real responsibilities. Been married and divorced twice. I spent a lot of long lonely days on the road driving truck to support my families. When i got out of work in illinois 70 or 71 no money no job but i did manage to keep my daughter in groceries. Where in the hell do people like that come from. I've done some wrong things in my life-but that being said-nothing ever approaching that wrong. Lord forgive me-but them folks need to rot in hell. RANT OFF. RIDE SAFE.

[Steve K (IA)]

From the looks of their mug shots, I will bet a dollar they are on meth.

[Popeye]

My hope is that if/when they go to prison, the inmates will take care of business.  I pray for the babies.

[MP]

From the looks of their mug shots, I will bet a dollar they are on meth.

Agreed.  Cannot print what I would like to do to them.  There is not enough punishment available in this world.  Hopefully there is a special Hell available for them in the future.

MP

[ArmyValker]

I'd like to see them locked in solitary confinement and starved to death, but that's just me. Maybe somewhere in between withdrawals from meth and the hunger pain, they'll realize where they are headed.

[slider]

Please lord let me alone  in a room with them for just an hour or so..

[3fan4life]

Somethings that people do make you want to beat the crap out of them.

Other things make you want to cover them with honey and tie them to a tree in the middle of bear country or feed them to sharks, or throw them into a gator filled swamp, etc, etc.

Then there are things that people do that are so inconceivable that no response seems appropriate enough.

This seems to be one of those things.

Sooner or later everyone MUST stand before God and receive judgement for the things that they did in their life.

When that day comes I wouldn't want to be standing in these people's shoes:


And the King will make answer and say to them, Truly I say to you, Because you did it to the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.
 
Then will he say to those on the left, Go from me, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire which is ready for the Evil One and his angels:
 
For I was in need of food, and you gave it not to me; I was in need of drink, and you gave it not to me:
 
I was wandering, and you took me not in; without clothing, and you gave me no clothing; ill, and in prison, and you came not to me.
Matt 25:40-43 (BBE)
   

[3fan4life]

I spent 30 years in EMS and during that time I saw alot of suffering and stupidity.

I always said that I couldn't be a cop because too many people deserved to be shot. 

[Willow]

In no way would I ever excuse what these people did, nor is it my intent to correct anyone else's perspective, but only to give my own view point.

I am disgusted and appalled at what some people have done.  I'm sometimes appalled at remembering what I've done.  In the scale that runs from Mother Teresa to Adolph Eichmann I've certainly not been as evil as Adolph, but I've likely been closer to that end than to Mother Teresa.

I hope we never get down to everyone getting what he deserves.   

[Chrisj CMA]

In no way would I ever excuse what these people did, nor is it my intent to correct anyone else's perspective, but only to give my own view point.

I am disgusted and appalled at what some people have done.  I'm sometimes appalled at remembering what I've done.  In the scale that runs from Mother Teresa to Adolph Eichmann I've certainly not been as evil as Adolph, but I've likely been closer to that end than to Mother Teresa.

I hope we never get down to everyone getting what he deserves.   

Justice here in this life and Grace when we meet God are two different things.  When someone hurts a child they deserve the worst (or most JUST) justice MAN can give him.  God can deal with him according to His will.  If the man has a relationship with Jesus and somehow still did this, well he will experience Gods grace THEN after (hopefully) experiening mans JUSTICE.  I dont see how anyone that knows Christ can do those things, but just sayin

[buffalobill]

Willow, I am in the same boat as you   The bible says we judge ourselves by every word we speak and every thought we hold captive. I know He would have gone through the same painful death if I was the only sinner. I am not, but that sure is no consolation. Thank God for the grace we do not deserve and for the forgiveness of the punishment of sin we do deserve. "just sayin"

buffalobill  Romans 8:18

[Bobbo]

I, too, find it appalling what these people did to those children.

I also find it revealing of the true feelings of people who claim to follow and emulate the philosophy of a certain religious figure, when they think torturing these people is the best response to this situation.  It shows that people will follow those beliefs when it's beneficial to them, then reject them when they are inconvenient to their true feelings.

I also note that it is usually those same people who have self-appointed themselves into judging who is and  isn't a member of that same group.

[3fan4life]

I, too, find it appalling what these people did to those children.

I also find it revealing of the true feelings of people who claim to follow and emulate the philosophy of a certain religious figure, when they think torturing these people is the best response to this situation.  It shows that people will follow those beliefs when it's beneficial to them, then reject them when they are inconvenient to their true feelings.

I also note that it is usually those same people who have self-appointed themselves into judging who is and  isn't a member of that same group.

OK Bobbo I'll bite........

If you were aiming this at my post......

I highly reccommend that you go back and RE READ IT.

IN NO way was it intended to justify the tourture of these individuals.

As a matter of fact the intent was to say....... God will deal with it.

[3fan4life]

I am disgusted and appalled at what some people have done.  I'm sometimes appalled at remembering what I've done.  In the scale that runs from Mother Teresa to Adolph Eichmann I've certainly not been as evil as Adolph, but I've likely been closer to that end than to Mother Teresa.

I hope we never get down to everyone getting what he deserves.   

This needs to be referenced somewhere.......... It is very profound and has the potential to become a FAMOUS QUOTE. 

[Serk]

I am disgusted and appalled at what some people have done.  I'm sometimes appalled at remembering what I've done.  In the scale that runs from Mother Teresa to Adolph Eichmann I've certainly not been as evil as Adolph, but I've likely been closer to that end than to Mother Teresa.

I hope we never get down to everyone getting what he deserves.   

This needs to be referenced somewhere.......... It is very profound and has the potential to become a FAMOUS QUOTE. 

Reminds me of the wise words of another old grey haired guy:

"Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends."

-Gandalf

[Sneaky Snake]

Better News!

I read today that those babies are improving.  Here's the link:  http://www.swtimes.com/news/article_8faf9dca-53c8-11e0-b725-001cc4c002e0.html

I hate to hear that this kind of thing has happened in my neck of the woods.  I invite all of you to pray for the recovery of these babies and leave the punishment of the prepetrators to the justice system and to the Good Lord.
Chris

[Bobbo]

I, too, find it appalling what these people did to those children.

I also find it revealing of the true feelings of people who claim to follow and emulate the philosophy of a certain religious figure, when they think torturing these people is the best response to this situation.  It shows that people will follow those beliefs when it's beneficial to them, then reject them when they are inconvenient to their true feelings.

I also note that it is usually those same people who have self-appointed themselves into judging who is and  isn't a member of that same group.

OK Bobbo I'll bite........

If you were aiming this at my post......

I highly reccommend that you go back and RE READ IT.

IN NO way was it intended to justify the tourture of these individuals.

As a matter of fact the intent was to say....... God will deal with it.

Not aimed specifically at you, but taken from my reading of posts similar to this one, and also from posts on different forums including newspapers.

[Bobbo]

no one that knows Christ would ever do these things.

have you dealt with the westbourough baptist church yet? i was interviewed at a soldiers funeral and was asked how a "Christian" could come to a funeral and do what they do. my answer was that these people were "christians" in the same way skinheads claim to be and hitler claimed to be --- NOT!

i agree more than you know what these people need. i remember way back when gary gilmore was being shot in salt lake for murder. i was on my way back from calif. to colorado, listening to talk radio in the middle of the night. people were calling in (it was the night before the exicution) saying that taking his life wouldn't solve anything. i'll never forget what the radio guy said " well it will certainly solve gilmore's problem"

oh well, not much we can do about it, we are living in what i see as the very last days of this world, the bible said it would be a terrible time in which the love of most would grow cold. good ! can't happen fast enough for me.

I can't help but point out the irony and mild hypocrisy in your post.

You say Westboro are not Christians because they cheer dead solders as part of God's reckoning of the world, yet you state "good ! can't happen fast enough for me" in reference to child abuse and the general loss of love in the world.

[Chrisj CMA]

Bobbo I believe Rodeo was referring to the end of these days and Christ returning for his church couldnt happen fast enough for him. 

The Bible says things like :
"Its a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God"
"Fear him that can send your soul to hell"
and if you hurt the little ones "its better that a millstone be placed around your neck and be cast into the sea"

God is Holy and Just....without accepting the sacrifice Jesus made as payment for our sin (salvation....being born again) we too will receive exactly what we deserve.  All of us every one deserve the torments of the lake of fire described in Revalations......Those that dont know Christ will suffer Gods judgement.  The sentence we give criminals is not that judgement, its insurance and protection that they dont hurt more children........Its our responsibility to protect the children even if it means convicting and sentencing a harsh sentence.  I for one do not believe in torture as apart of justice though

[Bobbo]

Bobbo I believe Rodeo was referring to the end of these days and Christ returning for his church couldnt happen fast enough for him.  

Yes, I agree that that was his message.

Like Westboro, he believes God causes or allows bad things to happen to people, usually as part of some predetermined plan.  He, like Westboro, is cheering these things on to hasten whatever predetermined plan God has in store for us.  Westboro believes this plan includes the eradication of homosexuals from the US.  Rodeo believes the plan is to end the world.  They are both the same train of thought, just slightly different subjects.

and if you hurt the little ones "its better that a millstone be placed around your neck and be cast into the sea"

I don't think the "little ones" in Luke 17 referred to adolescents...

[SANDMAN5]

The problem with WBC is that they misinterpret the Bible about God hating
homosexuals. Everything they say after that is therefore flawed. Also, they
are (or at least seem to be ) full of hate, which goes against the teachings
of Jesus. God doesn't allow "bad things" to happen to people to "teach them
a lesson", nor can we either hasten, slow, or stop the return of Jesus no matter
what our actions. It's just that some things WILL happen and it's all according
to God's plan...and it's set by His watch, not ours.   

[Bobbo]

Also, they are (or at least seem to be ) full of hate, which goes against the teachings of Jesus.  

You appear to have just judged several members that posted on this topic (and others) as non-Christian.

[3fan4life]

Not aimed specifically at you, but taken from my reading of posts similar to this one, and also from posts on different forums including newspapers.

No Offense Taken.

[3fan4life]

Also, they are (or at least seem to be ) full of hate, which goes against the teachings of Jesus.  

You appear to have just judged several members that posted on this topic (and others) as non-Christian.

I don't think that non-christian is as accurate as say, not very "mature" Christians.

Technically all that is required to be Christian is to "Believe in Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Saviour."

Can someone do this and still not "Get IT?".

Absolutely!!

We are all human and the essence of human nature is one of sin.

That is why we need a saviour.

Being human, it is our nature to react to terrible acts such as this with thoughts of anger and revenge.

These thoughts are normal, a mature Christian very well may still have these thoughts.

But he or she being mature in the Lord will quickly rebuke these thoughts as un-holy and not act upon them.

Being a Christian involves developing a personal relationship with the Lord, and every Christian is at a different stage of that relationship. And it is an ongoing quest that never ends during life.

So someone can be a Christian and still not be a very good person. They have to grow and mature in their spiritual walk.

I think that as a Christian you must realize this and accept it or you will never mature spiritually.


Some people never do and as a result they never grow-up, they remain an adolescent.

And we all know how much trouble unruly adolescents can be.

Take for instance the idiots at WBC.

Technically are they Christians?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say YES, making the assumption that they do accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour.

But are they mature Christians?

I say NO, because their philosophy, their theology and their actions DO NOT support the teachings of God.

Then again what adolescent ever does exactly what his parent's tell him to do?
 

[SANDMAN5]

You appear to have just judged several members that posted on this topic (and others) as non-Christian.

Once again you're wrong. To let something get to you and fire up your emotions for
a few moments and make you say something you normally wouldn't could mean that
you have let hate into your life for a brief time. To continually and purposely make
plans to go out into the public and yell and scream and hold up signs that are about
nothing but hate.....that is being "full of hate". Understand?

[Bobbo]

You appear to have just judged several members that posted on this topic (and others) as non-Christian.

Once again you're wrong. To let something get to you and fire up your emotions for
a few moments and make you say something you normally wouldn't could mean that
you have let hate into your life for a brief time. To continually and purposely make
plans to go out into the public and yell and scream and hold up signs that are about
nothing but hate.....that is being "full of hate". Understand?

I didn't realize there was a time limit on hateful feelings and expressions that allows you to stay a Christian.

[3fan4life]

I didn't realize there was a time limit on hateful feelings and expressions that allows you to stay a Christian.

NEWS FLASH

NO ONE is Perfect............

NOT Even a Christian...................  


After all, we are Human First.    

[Willow]

NO ONE is Perfect............

NOT Even a Christian...................  

The only way you could know that is to interview and evaluate some six billion individuals.  Even then you'd have to be careful to limit your claim to the present tense. 

One problem with this bickering session (and it has deteriorated well beyond discussion, debate or even argument) is that neither side is using the same definition of the base term and neither side is likely to accept the other's definition.

This is one of those discussions from which the truly skilled conversationalist simply walks away shaking his head.      

[SANDMAN5]

I didn't realize there was a time limit on hateful feelings and expressions that allows you to stay a Christian.

You're grasping at straws again, Bobbo. Work on your reading comprehension.
I'm done with this thread, but I'm sure we'll end up on another one sometime.