SPlines are dry LUBE??

[flcjr]

WHY DO SOME PEOPLE CALL THEM SELVES A WRENCH. This tire was off less than 3000 miles ago,before i owned the fat sister and this looks like 50000 miles worth of neglect.I am glad I had a flat and had to do some repairs I will fix it up proper. What kind of grease is the best for these splines? I do have a manual but don't want to get raped at the dealer for some grease. Looks like I caught it in time.

[Hoser]

I use high moly engine assembly lube from any auto parts store.  Hoser

[Valker]

Hoser's stuff is good as are many others. I use Amsoil Racing 2000 grease.

[Thunderbolt]

be sure to change the 3 o-rings to keep water out.

[bassman]

+1 what T-Bolt said.....

http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/Elusive%203rd%20O-Ring.htm

[98valk]

service manual requires moly paste not grease. I use TS-moly which is 70% moly. after 13k miles it was still there.

TS-70 is a general purpose moly paste with many uses. It has proven to be an outstanding lubricant for a saltwater environment, above and below the surface: subsea riser, BOP, flange equipment and structural bolts.
http://www.tsmoly.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=86

[R J]

I have used Del-Ray waterproof front wheel bearing grease in MGM for over 240K+ miles.      Still have the original rear end splines, gears and whatever.   Can't say the 3 "O" rings are original as they get replaced every time the rear end is pulled down.

[Gryphon Rider]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with using Pro Honda 60% Moly Paste which fulfills the requirements of the service manual.  If you're concerned with being overcharged, compare your dealer's price with online prices.  Another brand of minimum 60% moly paste is also acceptable.

[Westsider]

 + 1 Gryphon Rider ....put a little grease on your drive shaft ends honda paste on final drive neatly.

[NITRO]

I just started using Green Grease and it's done fine thus far. It should be available at most auto places. I forget what the stats are on it, but the auto parts guy said it was "way overkill" for a cycle's rear end.

[old2soon]

I went a little spendy at guard dog lubricants out of houston tx. 72% moly delvd to the house $38.00 for 8oz. Yeah i know-spendy-maybe didn't do enough research-but she is mt phat ghurl and she is worth it. It will pay off in the long run!! RIDE SAFE.

[X Ring]

Grease washes out in the rain?  WOW!  That's news to those of us who live in the rainiest part of the country.  The Southeast.  Some of us use Bel-Ray waterproof grease, some Lucas X-Tra Heavy Duty Grease and I use Valvoline Syn Power Synthetic Disc Brake Wheel Bearing Grease. 

Daniel Meyer and others have said and I agree that it's not important what you use on your final drive and wheel flange.  It's the fact that you perform the service with a high quality lubricant.  Also, not changing your o rings is begging for disaster.  It costs about $3 to change the o rings.  Not doing so is penny wise and pound foolish. 

As far as the Southeast being the rainiest part of the country, the Pacific Northwest has that label cause they get more rainy days each year.  We get more inches of rain though, especially those of us in the Mobile, AL area.

Marty

[John Schmidt]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with using Pro Honda 60% Moly Paste which fulfills the requirements of the service manual.  If you're concerned with being overcharged, compare your dealer's price with online prices.  Another brand of minimum 60% moly paste is also acceptable.

I also use that same paste, but mix it with a tad of high % waterproof moly grease. That keeps the paste from drying out on the splines and still sticks to the metal which is the paste's big advantage. And I agree with the post re. the tech's not cleaning and lubing the splines. It wasn't on my bike, but I watched and corrected one kid who was just going to put it all back together without so much as even a good wipedown. He wanted to argue with me about it, so I simply asked him how old he thought I was and if experience was worth anything. Then told him to stop being lazy and do the job right the first time. He got a little PO'd but did it, then the mgr. came up to him and said that's how it WILL be done from now on. I got some dirty looks, but nothing compare to what the shop would have had to endure had the owner come back in just a few months for major repair.

[B]

+1 on BelRay

[judd]

My understanding of Moly paste is that the moly gets impregnated  into the surfaces that are under high clamping pressures and continues to lubricate, whereas grease would simpily be squeezed out under these high pressures and leave no lubricant behind to protect.  

I use Loctite  moly paste 51048
https://www.rshughes.com/products/079340_51048.html cuz we don't have a dealer here anymore and when we did the mechanic tried to convince me that Honda 3% moly grease is the way to go, it is all they ever use. (They didn't have the Honda 60% Moly Paste on hand) He also insisted that I required 5 quarts of oil for an oil change. That was the last time I darkened their door. I found this at Grainger Supply and have been using it ever since, no problems. It has a 65% Moly content.  

[Mean Cat]

Moly EP in small plastic tub at major auto parts stores . Use small acid type brushes to apply to splines liberally. Replace the 3 o-rings.Beings you have it down ,check wheel bearings and wheel dampners also.

[flcjr]

thanks for all the info the stealer had the honda 60 moly past for 8 bucks but only stocks the oring on the gear that is in the wheel.what orings you guys talking about

[T.P.]

There are 3 o-rings that need to be attended to,  get them here.
http://www.carolinabikeandtrike.com/ORings.htm




from shop talk http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/Elusive%203rd%20O-Ring.htm

[flcjr]

Thanx Tp

[BradValk48237]

I ordered the rings from Carolina... showed up in 3 days

B

[blotar]

Thanks T.P., I neglected my orings last time the wheel was off. I will try to make them available at our next wrench session.
Blotar

[2qmedic]

Yep, I use Green grease also and have been for the past 35k miles now. My splines still look good as new.
http://www.greengrease.net/kitinfo/Single14/single14ounce.html

[Chrisj CMA]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with using Pro Honda 60% Moly Paste which fulfills the requirements of the service manual.  If you're concerned with being overcharged, compare your dealer's price with online prices.  Another brand of minimum 60% moly paste is also acceptable.

except.....that moly 60 "Paste" is really only grease.  Dont believe me, read the fine print on the tube.  It says use where moly GREASE is called for.  Its neither waterproof enough nor sustantial enough to hold up on the drive splines.  I wrote a letter to Mother Honda about it, and they called me on the phone saying I was right, its a substandard product for the drive splines and its NOT what they use a the factory. 

But go ahead and use it as a moly paste YMMV 

[greggh]

If your splines look like that and your have it tore down already It would be a wise investment to pull the drive shaft also and have a looksee!!!

[98valk]

except.....that moly 60 "Paste" is really only grease.  Dont believe me, read the fine print on the tube.  It says use where moly GREASE is called for.  Its neither waterproof enough nor sustantial enough to hold up on the drive splines.  I wrote a letter to Mother Honda about it, and they called me on the phone saying I was right, its a substandard product for the drive splines and its NOT what they use a the factory. 

But go ahead and use it as a moly paste YMMV 
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they use cooper anti-seize and then the moly paste.
a grease becomes a paste when the solids content gets to a certain %

according to http://www.jbjcycles.com/ via an article a few yrs ago in rider mag, the moly 60 is only good for every other tire change. This article was about GL1500s, which they are considered one of the nations experts on.

[Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008]

I've been using the grease sold by Royal Purple for over 70 thousand miles now. I run the darkside and only remove the rear wheel at 15,ooo mile intervals the grease is always still tacky and in place doing it's job. I have 128 thosand miles on the fatlady and still going strong.

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

 

From looking at the picture those look fried to me    Clean and re-lube will be too little too late .You probably got more miles in them but in my opinion they are wasted.