150 yrs today

[musclehead]

I wasn't there.

I am not a huge student of the civil war.

I'll freely admit my dates could be wrong...

it's irrelevant. 

History written by the victors.  The civil war wasn't about slavery, it was about redistribution of wealth, and making war on the southern states that didn't want to be pillaged any further by the north, who had votes and not money.

(any of this sound familiar?)

We could learn from history.  We might not have the same situation geographically, like then... but we have it economically.

Jabba

that is/was also the view of Charles A. Beard, a historian that wanted America to stay out of WWII. he said we should be satisfied with America's 'continental-ism'

he claimed the declaration of independence was a document that protected the wealthy land owners of the time. he also claimed that the civil war was, as you say, was a war of an industrialized segment of the country against an agrarian side. he was famous for ignoring facts that disagreed with his views.

did you know that the presidential election that placed Lincoln in the whitehouse, 81% of the people voted in?

[hubcapsc]

did you know that the presidential election that placed Lincoln in the whitehouse, 81% of the people voted in?

-Mike

[Jabba]

I accept the fact that I can be wrong.

I am not totally convinced that I am.  But I am less sure than before.

If I have the time... I'll read about it some more.  Trouble is... like I said, I am not enamored in civil war history, and don't have time to read what I need to let alone what I want to.

I think slavery was a big component of the money.  I think the fight over slavery was inevitable. 

I was in the pluff mud last week.  And it wasn't 100 out.  No thanks!  The bugs are aweful too.

Jabba

[RP#62]

From the viewpoint of the north, it was about slavery, at least in large part, as the northerners used the motivation of freeing the slaves actively in raising volunteers for their armies.

Many, however, were against the emancipation proclamation and sided with the northern Democrats. A particular reason men avoided the draft was due to the Confederate Army’s increase in strength brought on by the emancipation proclamation. It “steeled resolve in the Confederate Army by providing soldiers like James Harrison with fresh reminders of precisely why they must keep up the fight” Conversely, the emancipation changed what Union soldiers were fighting for dramatically. They thought they were fighting to preserve the Union, but the emancipation changed soldiers’ views on the war. Many Unionists agreed that slavery should not be abolished and left the ranks of the Union Army. However, the emancipation did not change the victor of the war.



-Mike

Always wondered where James Harrison was before the Steelers.

-RP