Dan Marc Fuel shut-off

[YoungPUP]

Ok I've seen a few refrences to the dan Marc fuel shutoff  What is it, and where do I get one.

[toetruck21]

Check this page out!  Should help!
http://www.horseapple.com/Valkyrie/Tech_Tips/Fuel_Shutoff/fuel_shutoff.html

Mike

[PhredValk]

It is a small fuel valve that is only open when power is applied, so no chance of Hydro lock if its properly connected to an electrical circuit that is only on when the bike is running (key is on).

They can be found at many auto, ATV and Marine supply sites, for example;

http://www.dan-marcrvparts.com/12vomufushof.html

Fred.

[Fudd]

I did the same mod that you're looking into last week.  I used A Dan Marc shut-off  and a 90deg.  foward Pingle manual petcock. 
I did it without removing the airbox, but I did remove the tank, the left side engine hanger and pushed the two coils out of the way.
I used a 5/16ths barbed hose fitting on the outflow of the electric shut-off and a 1/4 one on the inflow side.   
I cut off 5 inches of hose from the rear of the fuel line. Using a little oil on the 5/16 fitting, I carefully connected the shut-off and secured it with a hose clamp.
Next, I connected the power. I used a blue saddle connector (I can feel people krindge when I confess that) but you can solder it if you like.  I got my +V from the red wire with black stripe comming from the key switch.  I grounded the shut-off to the engine hanger where the coil mounts.
I used about 2 inches of 1/4 in. fuel hose to connect the Pingle to the input of the shutoff.
(I opted for the 1/4 in. hose because 5/16 seemed a little too loose on the pingle.)

I'm sure there are other was to do this mod, but this worked for me and I was completely done in less than an hour.

[Kaiser]

I used a blue saddle connector (I can feel people krindge when I confess that) but you can solder it if you like.

*cringe!*

That was the exact reason why my bike would not start after I installed my Dan Marc.  That stupid little blue p.o.s. did not even break through the insulation on one of the wires.  No power to the Dan Marc meant the valve would not open, which meant no gas to the engine, which meant the bike would not start.  (At least I know the valve functions properly and won't let any gas to the engine when the bike is off.)  I took everything apart and after taking note of the incorrect wiring, fixed it once-and-for all by wiring it up properly, trashing that connector, and swearing to never use them again.

But - to each their own.  I took off the airbox as well and had a heck of a lot more than one hour invested in installing mine.  It was also the first time I had torn into my Valk, so everything under the tank was new to me and the learning curve was pretty steep.

<on edit>: A lot of people comment that they get no response when using the Dan Marc site mentioned above.  As an alternative, you can go to this site: http://www.usgemini.com/lp-filter-lockoffs.html.  You want the AFC-152.

[X Ring]

I used a blue saddle connector (I can feel people krindge when I confess that) but you can solder it if you like. 

You do realize vampire connectors are color coded just like solderless connectors for the size wire they're supposed to be used on?  Red ones would be more appropriate for the wires in the Valk wiring harness.

Marty

[MarkT]

"vampire connectors"  Ha ha.  That's funny.  and appropriate.  I've referred to them as "Scotch-blocks" - don't know if that's official, but I'd sooner put my Johnson in a meat grinder as use them.  What an abomination.  I caught a U-Haul guy using them to hook up a trailer on my Bronco years ago.  I SCREAMED at him.  He didn't get it.  Man was I pissed.  I made them replace the wires.

[Fudd]

*cringe*   OK, thanks for the spealing leson.

While I fully expected some flack, this exceeded my wildest imagination.  I can't even fathom sticking my johnny in a meat grinder, or screaming at some poor kid at u-haul over an electrical connector, but as you say, "to each his own."  Geeze, try switching to decaf.

Naw, I'm just playing in good fun.....Ride hard, be safe.

 

[MarkT]

He wasn't a kid.  Mid 30's.  Old enough to know better.  (so should you I'm thinkin - but "to each his own" - just don't work on MY bike)  The reason I freaked, is I don't let those damn things anywhere near my equipment - and he installed them without asking or mentioning it - just because he won't experience the failures they cause.  If you think it's a good idea - just google "failure vampire connectors" - you'll get 147 results.  Those things cause galvanic corrosion and will make the new circuit fail in short order - as well as violate the integrity of the circuit you're tapping into, causing it to fail soon, too.

Take the time, and do it right.  Solder and heat-shrink tubing.  NONE of my vehicle electrical mods have ever failed at any connection points, with solder and tubing.  Though I learned the hard way - MANY of the crimp junctions I used to do - before I learned to do it right - failed.  Usually on a dark night in the middle of nowhere when I'm in a hurry.

[R J]

Any of my employees at the shop know if they use those firkining connectors, they will pack up their tool box and head down the road.   No questions asked and no excuses allowed.

It is $$$$$ out of my pocket for those stupid damn things to be a comeback on any type wiring job, as I still have to pay that employee a hourly wage while he is repairing a comeback.    If the person still worked for me, they repaired it for no hourly wage, and then had a choice, walk, or do it right in the future.    We do a lot of trailer wiring on vehicles.  We also guarantee our work in the wiring area.

I bought a pull behind bike trailer from a very prominent company who still sells their trailers with nothing but these damn connectors.     I and the guys at my shop completely rewired the damn trailer after my 1st pull of it.

I got pulled over twice in Colorado because the officer(s) following me said my lights kept flickering off and on.     I had never looked under the carpet till then.  What a firkin mess, there was 29 of those damn things laying on the floor under the carpet.    Dropped a suitcase in and it happened to hit a connector and I figured that was what 1/2 way knocked it loose.

[Fudd]

Ok Ok  I give in.

After digesting the prescribed Google entries on Vampire connectors and feeling the hatred of them by fellow motorcycle enthusiasts, I now condemn them.

Hopefully no permanent harm has been done to the sensibilities of anyone world-wide that read my post.

In retribution, I hereby pledge to cast my privates into MarkT's meat grinder (with the hopes it was wired with those evil connectors, thereby chances are it won't work).
 
I fully realize that I am probably the luckest human on Earth.  The idea that anything I have around here working is proof of divine intervention.

I estimate a 20 minute job of changing the one on my fuel shut-off to a more appealing solder joint.

Furthermore, I predict the universal failure of these evil connectors as the trigger of the end of the world on Dec. 21, 2012.

Ride hard, be safe

[toetruck21]

Ok Ok  I give in.

After digesting the prescribed Google entries on Vampire connectors and feeling the hatred of them by fellow motorcycle enthusiasts, I now condemn them.

Hopefully no permanent harm has been done to the sensibilities of anyone world-wide that read my post.

In retribution, I hereby pledge to cast my privates into MarkT's meat grinder (with the hopes it was wired with those evil connectors, thereby chances are it won't work).
 
I fully realize that I am probably the luckest human on Earth.  The idea that anything I have around here working is proof of divine intervention.

I estimate a 20 minute job of changing the one on my fuel shut-off to a more appealing solder joint.

Furthermore, I predict the universal failure of these evil connectors as the trigger of the end of the world on Dec. 21, 2012.

Ride hard, be safe

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