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« on: April 28, 2011, 04:33:54 PM » |
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I need to replace the bearings on the steering stem. Anybody know what the generic size is for those bearings., they are not on Jeff K's generic parts list. These are the one's I am talking about.
1 ----BEARING, HEAD PIPE 91015-425-832 (replaces 91015-425-831)
1 -----BEARING, HEAD PIPE 91016-371-000
1 -----DUST SEAL 53214-371-010
If nobody knows I will buy the ones from HDL and we will know the next time. TIA TJ
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2011, 04:45:13 PM » |
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You can get them there or order directly from AllBallsRacing.com. I just replaced mine. Be forewarned, the bottom bearing does not come off easily nor go back on easily. If I was redoing it, I'd go to a machine shop and pay them to remove and set the bottom bearing. Shouldn't be too much just carrying in the stem. The rest of it was pretty easy. Don't forget to get a new washer for between the nuts on top. It has bendable tabs.
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2011, 05:05:14 PM » |
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Don't forget to get a new washer for between the nuts on top. It has bendable tabs.
Valker thanks for the quick response. Wouldn't that part be reusable? When we do trailer, truck, etc axle bearings we reuse the washer with the tabs and never had a problem with that. I was assuming it's just like those but I haven't taking it apart yet and we all know what AS-U-ME stands for.  . With the bike raised up and the front in the air I realized that the top bearing must be bad. It parks itself straight ahead, that and 60K miles I want to order all parts needed and am going for next months wrench party in McKinney, TX
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2011, 05:10:24 PM » |
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HEY T.J. This from my post last Aug 17th 2010. HEAD BEARINGS !!!!! Just back from TULL Bearing of Minneapolis. INTERESTING !!! While the "ALLBALLS" bearings cross reference to the 32005x and the 32006x, the inside dimensions have been changed............the stock 32005x has a inside diameter of 25mm and the AB has 26mm stamped on the ring. so a stock bearing will be too small.......Dick at Tull said, he has motorcycle, ATV and snowmobile guys bring in bearings all the time with altered specs......you can't change the dimensions after they are hardened. so the only options are OEM or ALLBALLS. T.P.
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2011, 05:57:24 PM » |
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Don't forget to get a new washer for between the nuts on top. It has bendable tabs.
Valker thanks for the quick response. Wouldn't that part be reusable? When we do trailer, truck, etc axle bearings we reuse the washer with the tabs and never had a problem with that. I was assuming it's just like those but I haven't taking it apart yet and we all know what AS-U-ME stands for.  . With the bike raised up and the front in the air I realized that the top bearing must be bad. It parks itself straight ahead, that and 60K miles I want to order all parts needed and am going for next months wrench party in McKinney, TX Just replace both of them. I'd bet money they are both indexed. The washer isn't nearly the quality of the others you mentioned. The tabs are good for one, maybe two rebends, that's it. They are the cheapest item in the whole package.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2011, 06:00:08 PM » |
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get the all-balls...you will get all the pieces you need in one box.
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2011, 06:57:06 PM » |
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2011, 06:33:29 AM » |
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Just did mine also. Found another brg kit through a local repair shop, pkg labeled Parts Plus Performance p/n 28-2006. More expensive than All-Balls but supposed to be better quality, made in Japan if that means anything.
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2011, 06:51:05 AM » |
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Just did mine also. Found another brg kit through a local repair shop, pkg labeled Parts Plus Performance p/n 28-2006. More expensive than All-Balls but supposed to be better quality, made in Japan if that means anything.
Means a helluva lot to me. I won't buy All Balls anything. I don't buy bearings made in China. Marty
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2011, 06:52:31 AM » |
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Be forewarned, the bottom bearing does not come off easily nor go back on easily. If I was redoing it, I'd go to a machine shop and pay them to remove and set the bottom bearing.
That sounds like a great idea... the way I did it didn't involve a great idea - it involved great luck... this was on sale on eBay cheap   -Mike "I like to skip the hard part..."
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2011, 10:02:39 AM » |
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Recheck them in about 1k.
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2011, 10:11:45 AM » |
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Recheck them in about 1k.
Fudgie,................. That's like at the end of the next day after I get going. 
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2011, 10:18:36 AM » |
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Recheck them in about 1k.
Fudgie,................. That's like at the end of the next day after I get going.  Oh, well then when you come back!  I didnt recheck mine and a year later when the wheel was off I had alot of play. Cant tell it with the wheel on.
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2011, 12:45:13 PM » |
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Means a helluva lot to me. I won't buy All Balls anything. I don't buy bearings made in China.
Marty
That's what local shop mech said also. He much prefers non-China brgs after years of experience.
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2011, 03:35:47 PM » |
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Hey Hubcap whats cheap? I have 2 complete sets from changing to raked trees. And have no idea what thay are worth. Anyone interested please contact Lonerbtw
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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2011, 07:26:58 AM » |
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Actually China makes some of the best steel in the world, and along with all the other steel producing countries including the USA you can also find a lot of poor quality steel also. I recall that bridge collapse up in Wisconsin or wherever it was as a prime example!
Bearing sizes are pretty standard world wide and bearing grades are the measure of quality.
I think most steering stem bearings are the lower grade bearings since there is no real need for the more expensive and higher quality bearings, although you can get those also.
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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2011, 07:44:51 AM » |
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Actually China makes some of the best steel in the world, and along with all the other steel producing countries including the USA you can also find a lot of poor quality steel also.
I recall that bridge collapse up in Wisconsin or wherever it was as a prime example!
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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2011, 08:55:44 AM » |
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Actually China makes some of the best steel in the world, and along with all the other steel producing countries including the USA you can also find a lot of poor quality steel also. I recall that bridge collapse up in Wisconsin or wherever it was as a prime example!
Bearing sizes are pretty standard world wide and bearing grades are the measure of quality.
I think most steering stem bearings are the lower grade bearings since there is no real need for the more expensive and higher quality bearings, although you can get those also.
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 And they didn't sell us poisoned ingredients, for baby formula or pet food, or drywall that causes wiring and a/c ducts to corrode! 2 reasons I won't buy Chinese stuff if I can help it. Their institutional lack of concern for quality control and I would rather buy American and keep an American in a job. Make that 3, I prefer NOT to send my money to Communist Dictatorships! Marty
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