In line fuel filter

[slider]

am going to put in line fuel filter  between tank and carbs is there anytype that you experts suggest??Thanks guy for all the great help over the last year..

[John U.]

You need a high flow filter to avoid fuel starvation. Some have used Goldwing filters with success. I use Golan filters, they are not the cheapest but are cleanable and filter to a claimed 10 microns iirc, and no starvation problems at high speed (or any other time).
You can also try to fit two smaller filters in after the T in the fuel line.
Do a search, lots to read.

[vanagon40]

I added a Purolator (Champion) FF1203 (OEM F10024) to mine.  Sorry, no photos.  Fit really nice just under the tank.

Someone else here on the Board suggested it.

[Sodbuster]

I went with a pingle filter in addition to a pingle petcock

http://www.easternperformance.com/products.php?product=Pingel-Hex-Chrome-90-Degree-Forward-Petcock-for-Harley

not sure if pingle makes the filters anymore ....doesn't show up on their website

[gordonv]

I bought a fuel pump/filter combo from a Shadow 1100, to wire into my next Valkyrie. This will give me an electric fuel cut off, and allow me to use an inline filter.

No need to worry about fuel feeding or hydro lock, and can modify the petcock to manual for those times I need to remove the tank.

[Dirty Dave]

I'm happy with my pingel in-line filter I scored at a performance car shop. A little metal canister that is threaded on one end with an O ring. Reusable cone shaped stone-like filter inside. Never had fuel starvation problems and I sleep easy knowing hydro-lock isn't gonna get me again. (I have a pingel
petcock as well, thanks to VRCC)

[bikerboy1951]

Golan makes a very nice filter.  They are rated at 10 microns whereas the Pingel is rated at 40 microns, which is the same as the in tank filter.
I bought one on EBay for under $50.  They can be taken apart and have the filter cleaned if necessary.

Brad

[DFragn]

Excellent recommendations above.

Here's my findings on a couple of generic filters.

[valkyriemc]

Golan makes a very nice filter.  They are rated at 10 microns whereas the Pingel is rated at 40 microns, which is the same as the in tank filter.
I bought one on EBay for under $50.  They can be taken apart and have the filter cleaned if necessary.

Brad

+1 My choice too. Since 2006.

[Valk_ca]

I just came back from a test ride with my new WIX 33032 in line filter. No starvation symptoms right up to 115 mph. Like the fact its a metal filter sitting in there where there's a good deal of heat that might have an adverse effect on a plastic filter.

http://info.rockauto.com/WIX/DetailWIX.htm?www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=33032

On an additional note, I had to add the in line filter because I extended the length of my Pingle. Did it by cutting off a piece of the original tubing and soldering it to the Pingle. It slides inside the Pingel and solders on very easily. Back to a 1 gallon reserve.

[PatrickDoss]

I like the WIX 33027.  It's metal, and not much bigger diameter than the fuel line itself, so it's not too hard to fit in there.  It fits 70's-era Fords, including the 460 Big Block, so it'll flow plenty of fuel .

http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=33027

[X Ring]

Topic Summary
Posted on: Yesterday at 07:55:12 PMPosted by: PatrickDoss 
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I like the WIX 33027.  It's metal, and not much bigger diameter than the fuel line itself, so it's not too hard to fit in there.  It fits 70's-era Fords, including the 460 Big Block, so it'll flow plenty of fuel .

http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=33027
 

That's the same filter R&M includes with the belly tank.

Marty



Edited cause I quoted the wrong post last night.   

[Brian]

I just came back from a test ride with my new WIX 33032 in line filter. No starvation symptoms right up to 115 mph. Like the fact its a metal filter sitting in there where there's a good deal of heat that might have an adverse effect on a plastic filter.

http://info.rockauto.com/WIX/DetailWIX.htm?www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=33032

On an additional note, I had to add the in line filter because I extended the length of my Pingle. Did it by cutting off a piece of the original tubing and soldering it to the Pingle. It slides inside the Pingel and solders on very easily. Back to a 1 gallon reserve.

How much tubing did you add to your new pingel? Was it just a matter of measuring the length of the OEM to the open ports of the reserve? I am asking this as I just received my new pingel and have not installed yet. I like the idea of adding an inline filter verses adding the dan marc with the filter included. All these changes add up rather quickly.  Thanks.

[X Ring]

Here you go Brian.  http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,3857.msg26880/topicseen.html#msg26880

Marty

[Valk_ca]

Yeah, Brian, I got the idea for my addition from John. Only thing was I had a hard time finding pipe that would fit OVER the Pingle. Decided to try using the old petcock pipe which fits nicely INSIDE the Pingle. I figured that if the old pipe supplied enough fuel then restricting the size of the Pingle shouldn't have an adverse effect. I cut off 2 1/2" of the old pipe and slid the pipe 3/4" into the Pingle shaft. This extended the intake pipe by 1 3/4".  Just polished up the old pipe and sanded the chrome off the end of the Pingle and then soldered them together. Takes next to no heat to do the job as both pipes are relatively thin-walled.
Took and rode through an entire tank yesterday to test her out. Yeah, I could have just bench tested it but that would be no fun. Went 152 miles on main tank (16 liters - 4.2 U.S. gal). That leaves me with a 4 liter - 1 U.S. gallon reserve. Much more comfortable out here in the frozen north where gas stations can get far apart, especially in the evenings on less-traveled roads where stations close early.

[Valk_ca]

I like the WIX 33027.  It's metal, and not much bigger diameter than the fuel line itself, so it's not too hard to fit in there.  It fits 70's-era Fords, including the 460 Big Block, so it'll flow plenty of fuel .

http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=33027

That does look like a nimble unit. I see that the 33027 is rated for 50 microns whereas the 33032 is rated at 20. Probably no big deal as I believe the stock filter is rated at 40 microns.

[John U.]

If by stock filter you mean the petcock screen, that screen will pass enogh rust and other junk to cause a float valve to fail to close properly. The result (if other conditions are met) could be hydrolock.

IMHO avoiding one of the conditions necesary for hydrolock is the main reason to install an inline filter. Extending the tube on a Pingle is the other reason, but why install a filter that's just as prone to passing fine particles as the OEM petcock screen?

[valkyriemc]

Here's whats the Golan looks like; http://www.xtremepowersportsusa.com/eshopprod_cat_7083-39558_brand_1630-370-376-242_product_1062636.GOLAN_PRODUCTS_INC_PEAK_FLOW.htm

[Brian]

All excellent help here guys. With lengthening the pingel has anyone tried to cut the pingel filter in half and attaching by a clever method to still be a prefilter for the boulders. Or is it just not worth it and leave it out all together and rely on the inline filter to catch everything?
 I sure like the idea of extending the tube to keep the reserve the same amount.

[Valk_ca]

Not worth it. How would you glue them together? Remember, gas has a nasty habit of dissolving stuff. I'd always be wondering if I was getting any filtering at all. That happened to a GL500 I had for a while. Filter came loose. Filter was also made to act as the reserve notifier. Discovered the problem at the Illinois/Indiana border on an interstate going 75 in front of an 18 wheeler  Tank was empty. At least I found out I hadn't had any filtering. Installed an inline on that bike too, but had to put an OEM to have a Reserve. Poor design IMHO.

Those Golans look pretty slick but my wallet could only afford the $3 Wix 33032 with the 20 micron filter. Still much better filtration than OEM.

[Brian]

Thanks Valk_ca. I wasn't actually thinking about using glue. I was thinking more of a tightly twisted copper or stainless wire to pull it tight against the tube. Using a soldering gun I was thinking about attaching wire bands on the tube in which to pull the screen in tight with the wire and it won't slip. Sounds like a lot of work if it really isn't needed.

[Patrick]

I happen to like the addition of an in-line filter, I think its the best prevention for the dreaded fuel-lock.. I just use a plain jane filter available at any fuel filter store and haven't had any fuel starvation issues in about 12 years of use.. Some that have experienced issues found that the fuel line was left too long and kinked upon assembly..

[Brian]

I just came back from a test ride with my new WIX 33032 in line filter. No starvation symptoms right up to 115 mph. Like the fact its a metal filter sitting in there where there's a good deal of heat that might have an adverse effect on a plastic filter.

http://info.rockauto.com/WIX/DetailWIX.htm?www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=33032

On an additional note, I had to add the in line filter because I extended the length of my Pingle. Did it by cutting off a piece of the original tubing and soldering it to the Pingle. It slides inside the Pingel and solders on very easily. Back to a 1 gallon reserve.

How much tubing did you add to your new pingel? Was it just a matter of measuring the length of the OEM to the open ports of the reserve? I am asking this as I just received my new pingel and have not installed yet. I like the idea of adding an inline filter verses adding the dan marc with the filter included. All these changes add up rather quickly.  Thanks.

valk_ca, just thought I would let you know that when I went looking the WIX unit 33032 it was non existent in these parts, I went to NAPA, they have this filter # 3032 and made by WIX under their name. I am planning on the pingel valve upgrade tomorrow with this filter and extending the tube. Tube extension is going to be a piece of 3/8 soft copper swedged and solder over the pingel tube. It fits just fine. Swedging soft copper forms a slip joint that eliminates a coupler, only one joint to solder. I am an A/C mechanic by trade so no special tools were purchased for this mod. I also have a plan to use the pingel 50 micron filter in two pieces if I can't use the stock filter. More on this after I get 'er' done.

[dubsider]

does the Valk not have a fuel filter??..

when adding an in-line, where exactly do you install it ??

[gordonv]

The Valkyries do NOT have an inline fuel filter, only the screen in the tank.

There is posts about the filter not allowing enough fuel flow, and you can starve your carbs. So find those posts, and read some of the recommendations.

You would install after the petcock, before the carbs, no room anywhere else.

[Ricky-D]

The Valkyrie does have a fuel filter.  It is the screen that is enclosing the intake part of the petcock inside the gas tank.   It is generally believed that the screen is rated at 40 microns.

One Micron = 39 millionths of an inch (.000039").  So 40 microns = (.0015")

Hair is around 20 microns diameter.

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[dubsider]

Here's whats the Golan looks like; http://www.xtremepowersportsusa.com/eshopprod_cat_7083-39558_brand_1630-370-376-242_product_1062636.GOLAN_PRODUCTS_INC_PEAK_FLOW.htm

Which fitting size is required in the Golan link? 

[valkyriemc]

I bought this Golan in 08/06 for $38.69, looks like the price has gone up. You may want to research a lower price.
http://www.jpcycles.com/product/720-280

[dubsider]

I bought this Golan in 08/06 for $38.69, looks like the price has gone up. You may want to research a lower price.
http://www.jpcycles.com/product/720-280

so 3/8" ??

[valkyriemc]

The filter is not defined in a metric size so I would say yes. Mine has been installed in my bike since '06 with no issues. The fraction  5/16" is decimal .3125 and converts to 7.94 mm (rounded). Hope this helps.

[Patrick]

If I remember correctly the fuel line is 8mm, so, I force fit a 3/8" plain jane filter.. However, a 5/16" filter will flow far more than our little engines need..

[Tropic traveler]

Mid 70's Ford fuel filter installed on my Valk.
The squeezy clamps are gone, screw clamps in their place.
Rust caused my hydrolock a few years back. 

[olddog1946]

I'm running the purolator G2 on my bike with red eyes, quick disconnect set up..currently have about 4000 miles on it...with the last 1500 a trip down here to Az (temps over 100) and have not had any problems at all..and currently no signs of any heat distortion...