Fumoto QuickDrain valve

[Sigrún]

Hola compadres

I was wondering.... has anyone of you fellow Valkyrie riders any experience on Fumoto Quickdrain valves? Basically it is a ball valve with a spring loaded locking, that is supposed to replace the oil drain plug in the oil sump, enabling quick oil draining without removing the plug. I'm looking at one on my desk wondering a) will it fit the threads of the plug with or without adapter and b) does it stick out too much for my Goodyear bike jack?

First time I ever ran into this gimmick so thought to give a holler to see if anyone knows more?

http://www.quickoildrainvalve.com/

[Ricky-D]

You are correct.

GIMMICK is what it is, and a definite path to problems.

How many times does someone change oil to feel a need for this?

Just as unnecessary as the gas line quick disconnect.

Doesn't anybody think about reliability when judging the merits of this stuff?

Jus sayin'

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[Sigrún]

You are correct.

GIMMICK is what it is, and a definite path to problems.

How many times does someone change oil to feel a need for this?

Just as unnecessary as the gas line quick disconnect.

Doesn't anybody think about reliability when judging the merits of this stuff?

Jus sayin'

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Thanks Ricky

Have not made up my mind about that thing yet, and therefore was looking for someone with real life experience to see if it is worth the trouble. But yeah, obviously the reliability of it would be a big concern

[Patrick]

This type of valve has been around for a long time and are very reliable[ I'm not sure about this particular brand though].. They are nice in certain applications where the drain is difficult to get at, however, the drain on the Valk isn't hard to get to.. It may be in the way of your jack..

[9Ball]

I've had one on my Jeep Wrangler for 5 years.  They are very reliable and I recommend buying the spring clamp from your hardware store to ensure the valve isn't opened maliciously.  Forget the recommended size, but they are available at almost any hardware store cheap.  I no longer have to fiddle with oil dripping onto the skid pan while draining.

The beauty of this system is that it allows you to attach a short piece of tygon tubing and route the used oil right into a jug.  There is no messy oil catch pan to deal with and you can throw the used tubing right into the last jug for disposal.

I recommend the valve for a Jeep...not sure it's really needed for the Valk.

[Sigrún]

Thanks Pat and J

This one is made in Japan and looks to be of pretty good quality. Some models seem to come with a nipple that you can hook up a hose onto. I can definitely see how that could come handy.

Need to take Sigr´n Valkyrie up on the jack for a good wash and wax job over the weekend anyway, guess I'll have a closer look on the jack clearance then. Also, good call about the possibility of misuse, another point to ponder.

[N8171S]

I knew a guy who installed a similar valve on his piper arrow airplane.  All was well untill he took off and put the landing gear up.  The nose wheel opened the valve, dumped all the oil trashed the engine and the following crash trashed the plane.  How hard is  it to unscrew the drain plug once or twice a year?

[dreamaker]

The thing is a good chunk of change. Also if some nut bag can flick the lever and dump out your oil for chuckles. I think we are getting to lazy, turn the screw.

[Farther]

I have the Fumoto on my Honda Element.  Works great for when I am sprawled out in the mud reaching for the drain valve.  No need to chase the plug or use a wrench.  However, I really don't see the need for one on the Valkyrie because the plug is far more accessible.

[magentaman]

I have used this valve on the last two over the highway semi trucks and a log truck. Never had an issue.

[Sigrún]

The thing is a good chunk of change. Also if some nut bag can flick the lever and dump out your oil for chuckles. I think we are getting to lazy, turn the screw.

The nut bag possibility is a concern, agreed. A bit different in a car where you cannot really even see the thing unless you crawl underneath. And for the record, no, I have not made my mind up to actually install it, just toying with the idea..... 

Thanks for the feedback everyone, methinks I'm inclining towards leaving the idea alone for now.

[Lastdragon]

I have one installed on my chevy avalanche and it works great.  The avalanche drain plug is on the side and when the plug is removed the oil goes directly to the frame then runs everywhere.  After I installed the Fumoto with a short hose permanently attached to it the oil change is now a breeze with no mess.  I am really pleased with it. 

[John U.]

I use one on my diesel pickup. 10 quarts of oil is a lot for a drain pan. With the Fomoto I can drain straight to one or more jugs by just turning the valve on and off. Also keeps hot oil from splashing all over me, the truck and the driveway. Works great.

[fordmano]

I must have drank from that same jug of coolaide, cuz I got one on my Diesel F350. It has been there for almost 2 years and a fare number of oil changes now and it still works like the day it was installed ... The only concerns on the bike would be the punk looking for a easy/expensive joke on your coin or the accidental oops I just ran over a large piece of lumber. Jacking might give you a little grief also.


Would I do it on a Bike of any kind probably not.

[Walküre]

Mag...man, not to be off-topic, but what kind of camera/lens, did you use on the picture of the I'state?? The DOF (depth of field) is spectacular, juding by the structure in the background - great focus almost throughout, even back to the tree line!!

Curious minds want to know!! Would be a GREAT lens/camera, for group motorcycle shots, or car shows, or bikini contests, or...well, YOU get the picture! (no pun intended, but I'll take it!).

Roger

I have used this valve on the last two over the highway semi trucks and a log truck. Never had an issue.

Oh yeah, WHO PEE'D ON THE FRONT TIRE???!!!???

[Patrick]

To 8171S
  The P28R [piper arrow] needs to use the special small shorter model drain valve..  It takes a little longer for the oil to drain,but, at least, the nose wheel retraction doesn't get in the way of the valve..

[9Ball]

I must have drank from that same jug of coolaide, cuz I got one on my Diesel F350. It has been there for almost 2 years and a fare number of oil changes now and it still works like the day it was installed ... The only concerns on the bike would be the punk looking for a easy/expensive joke on your coin or the accidental oops I just ran over a large piece of lumber. Jacking might give you a little grief also.


Would I do it on a Bike of any kind probably not.

To prevent tampering and when used on off road vehicles, Fumoto recommends using the 5/8" spring clip to slip over the valve body and hold the drain lever in place.  You need a pair of pliers to remove the spring clip, so someone wanting to tamper with the valve would have to use tools.


scroll down to see the clip...

http://fumotousa.com/

This adds 30 seconds on either end of the oil change to remove/install the clip but it does provide piece of mind.

[PhredValk]

30 seconds with a pair of pliers or 30 seconds with a wrench. Sounds like money for nothing.
Fred.

[9Ball]

30 seconds with a pair of pliers or 30 seconds with a wrench. Sounds like money for nothing.
Fred.

actually not the main point....being able to drain the oil into a container instead of slopping around with oil drain pans and pouring oil into jugs makes this a decent device...for some applications.

[GOOSE]

that valve works great on autos/trucks, but your just asking for a huge problem on a valk.....it's just hanging down there low waiting to get hit with just about anything, including your jack, and B O O M it's gone and so is your motor.