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« on: April 18, 2009, 01:11:09 PM » |
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Is there an aftermarket source for an air cleaner that will match the OEM, like Framm or Purolator or?
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2009, 01:13:59 PM » |
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k&m makes one. but its pricy. the oem ones are about 20 dollars and change
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2009, 01:38:11 PM » |
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k&m makes one. but its pricy. the oem ones are about 20 dollars and change
When you buy the K&N and never put anymore $$$ out except for the little kit to clean and reoil it....... My K&N is over 10 years old and still works just like it did new.. |
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2009, 04:00:14 PM » |
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Buy a K&N and your bike will breath much better! Take out the foam Pre-Filter it comes with !  |
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2009, 08:02:25 PM » |
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I've run K&N in all my vehicles since '98. Baught my '98 Standard last year and installed a K&N this winter. K&N really insists that you use their pre-filter which I did, but some guys leave it off. I think most those guys have re-jetted their carbs to compensate for the air flow difference. Like junior said, you'll never need another filter. My last truck went 190,000mi with one K&N before I sold it...probably still in it!  One thing, the K&N claim of more horsepower and better fuel mileage is marginal at best.  |
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2009, 08:35:05 PM » |
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Had a K&N and went back to OEM. I think it ran to lean. If anything I lost horsepower and mpg, but did not have the pre-filter installed. No other carb mods, dragonpacks exhaust.
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2009, 08:08:34 PM » |
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I was told by a K&N employee that when the foam pre-filter is installed the K&N flows very close to the same as a stock Honda filter. Difference being the already mentioned ability to clean the K&N. I have a K&N with the pre & I cannot tell the difference in flow, have never re-jetted. All is well. |
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2009, 11:32:52 PM » |
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I never heard of not using the foam pre-filter. I put my K&N on 4 years ago. Removing the pre-filter would certainly increase the air flow, but my question is; would I have to re-jet?
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2009, 12:15:10 AM » |
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The OEM filter and air box is engineered very well.
I can't find the links regarding the passage of particulates. If I remember the OEM filter does a better job of containing smaller micron's then does K&N.
That being said I use the K&N w/Pre-filter. K&N says use the pre-filter. So I do especially since reading those reviews.
Why, 'cause they're supposedly good for 50k miles and I hate pulling the tank even though I've gotten quite efficient at it.
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2009, 05:43:43 AM » |
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Is there an aftermarket source for an air cleaner that will match the OEM, like Framm or Purolator or?
K & N is the only other filter that I know of but IMO is no better than the OE filter. In regards to the filter/airbox design, Honda got it right with that combo. Over the years there have been Riders who have attempted to "improve" the design to no avail. If you ever see an airbox with duct tape on it, that was one of the failed attempts at improving the design.  The OE filter is another area that Honda did well on, some here have replaced it with the K & N filter but no one has reported any improvement other than not having to change it, but they still need to be cleaned/recharged. Yes I used to have one. My advice? Just replace it with a Honda filter and it will breath just fine. |
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2009, 05:52:46 AM » |
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Is there an aftermarket source for an air cleaner that will match the OEM, like Framm or Purolator or?
K & N is the only other filter that I know of but IMO is no better than the OE filter. In regards to the filter/airbox design, Honda got it right with that combo. Over the years there have been Riders who have attempted to "improve" the design to no avail. If you ever see an airbox with duct tape on it, that was one of the failed attempts at improving the design. The OE filter is another area that Honda did well on, some here have replaced it with the K & N filter but no one has reported any improvement other than not having to change it, but they still need to be cleaned/recharged. Yes I used to have one. My advice? Just replace it with a Honda filter and it will breath just fine. What Airetime said! |
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2009, 06:13:18 AM » |
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I never heard of not using the foam pre-filter. I put my K&N on 4 years ago. Removing the pre-filter would certainly increase the air flow, but my question is; would I have to re-jet?
I've run without the pre-filter for over 100,000 miles on my bike and 18,000 on my wife's. Most of the people I know that run the K&N have discarded the pre-filter.
No rejetting, and for me it does run better with the K&N. |
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2009, 07:10:16 AM » |
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Emgo makes a replacement filter for the Valk. It is a few dollars less than the OEM and is availible from most catalogs (J&P, Dennis Kirk, JC Whitney, etc) and I believe that DLP also stocks them.
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2009, 08:38:21 PM » |
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Have replaced with Emgo (or what ever its called) a few times. I took a used one apart to see what it looked like. The filter fabric stretched out to be like 8 or 10 feet long when pulled out and laid flat. Lots of filter in there to catch stuff. Ymmv,
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2009, 11:07:41 PM » |
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As long as it stops the big stuff, you should be good to go....
However, how does it breath compared to stock or the K&N?
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2009, 06:07:08 AM » |
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As long as it stops the big stuff, you should be good to go....
However, how does it breath compared to stock or the K&N?
Don't know who you are posing the question to, but if asking me, I don't know. How do you measure? She gets the same MPG, roars like a lion, and pulls like a freight train no matter what air filter is used. My adrenalin meter can't tell the difference from one air filter to the other. |
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2009, 01:57:08 PM » |
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Thanks for the good info and opinions.
Actually, I was wondering if there was a car (or other mass produced vehicle) with a filter that would be a direct fit.
There are many car items that can be used on a Valk and I was just curious if there was an air filter application.
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