the question is "why?"

[musclehead]

we are being told over and over again that Palin is 'unelectable'

so why is the media and others on the left spending so much time and effort (still) trying to destroy her?

not my question, I heard it on the conservo-talko-sphere, but its a valid one.  why don't they start attacking Pawlenty or Cain or Santorem with more vigor?  or Paul? (didn't want to leave him out  )

[Bobbo]

Palin is simply a diversion, and an easy target for ridicule.  They don't seek her out, as much as she puts herself out there and makes a fool of herself.  Somehow, she has developed a self-important attitude, and the news media seem to enjoy letting her expose her foolishness.

[..]

News media (left or right) is driven by consumer demand.

They set the hooks and see what bait is taken.

Then they just play with the hooked.

If this wasn't the case all the brain dead cheap reality shows and others of that ilk like TMZ etc would have long faded away. Yep, you can throw a few sports channels into the mix.

As in politicans you get what you ask for.

[Oss]

Lets start a write in campaign for Willow

If he can preside over this family he can preside over the country.

Now lets see what cabinet post would Oss be best suited for.

Gots to be lots of opportunities to scout for secretaries on a national scale  

Who else wants a cabinet post?

Palin is no joke, as a mother, wife, hunter, former head of a state, she has more qualifications than the fellow in the office now.  Dont know that I would actually vote for her given her ability to insert her foot in her mouth, but many have done worse and often.  You could fill volumes on Bush's gaffs.
And with Palin you dont have to worry about interns and dry cleaning  Just wish she would learn how to admit she makes a mistake now and then. But that is too much to ask of a politician

[Skinhead]

I'd like the post of secretary washer.

[sugerbear]

Lets start a write in campaign for Willow

If he can preside over this family he can preside over the country.

Now lets see what cabinet post would Oss be best suited for.

Gots to be lots of opportunities to scout for secretaries on a national scale  

Who else wants a cabinet post?

Palin is no joke, as a mother, wife, hunter, former head of a state, she has more qualifications than the fellow in the office now.  Dont know that I would actually vote for her given her ability to insert her foot in her mouth, but many have done worse and often.  You could fill volumes on Bush's gaffs.
And with Palin you dont have to worry about interns and dry cleaning  Just wish she would learn how to admit she makes a mistake now and then. But that is too much to ask of a politician

and she can dress herself without looking like a......................nevermind

[mario]

weiner?

[musclehead]

Palin is simply a diversion, and an easy target for ridicule.  They don't seek her out, as much as she puts herself out there and makes a fool of herself.  Somehow, she has developed a self-important attitude, and the news media seem to enjoy letting her expose her foolishness.

they (the media) were chasing her bus around like a bunch hormone filled teenagers chasing the prettiest girl in town. I'm sure they were seeking her out.  I'm thinking the diversion is on the other side.  we'll see............

[musclehead]

Lets start a write in campaign for Willow

If he can preside over this family he can preside over the country.

Now lets see what cabinet post would Oss be best suited for.

Gots to be lots of opportunities to scout for secretaries on a national scale  

Who else wants a cabinet post?

Palin is no joke, as a mother, wife, hunter, former head of a state, she has more qualifications than the fellow in the office now.  Dont know that I would actually vote for her given her ability to insert her foot in her mouth, but many have done worse and often.  You could fill volumes on Bush's gaffs.
And with Palin you dont have to worry about interns and dry cleaning  Just wish she would learn how to admit she makes a mistake now and then. But that is too much to ask of a politician

Willow gets my vote, i'd like a czar position of nuttin' important.  put me in charge of anything major league and I'll have to work too hard   

[..]

Willow gets my vote, i'd like a czar position of nuttin' important.  put me in charge of anything major league and I'll have to work too hard   

So you're a political Democrat? 

Sorry, couldn't resist it.

[Bobbo]

Palin is simply a diversion, and an easy target for ridicule.  They don't seek her out, as much as she puts herself out there and makes a fool of herself.  Somehow, she has developed a self-important attitude, and the news media seem to enjoy letting her expose her foolishness.

they (the media) were chasing her bus around like a bunch hormone filled teenagers chasing the prettiest girl in town. I'm sure they were seeking her out.  I'm thinking the diversion is on the other side.  we'll see............

A better analogy would be a gang of bullies following around a self-absorbed prima donna who doesn't realize she's not nearly as smart or informed as she thinks she is, as she prances around trying to show off, only to come off looking silly.

[Chrisj CMA]

Lets start a write in campaign for Willow

If he can preside over this family he can preside over the country.

Now lets see what cabinet post would Oss be best suited for.

Gots to be lots of opportunities to scout for secretaries on a national scale  

Who else wants a cabinet post?

Palin is no joke, as a mother, wife, hunter, former head of a state, she has more qualifications than the fellow in the office now.  Dont know that I would actually vote for her given her ability to insert her foot in her mouth, but many have done worse and often.  You could fill volumes on Bush's gaffs.
And with Palin you dont have to worry about interns and dry cleaning  Just wish she would learn how to admit she makes a mistake now and then. But that is too much to ask of a politician

No way Oss....See as President he would not be allowed to ride his motorcycle.......would you want Willow in charge of anything on those PMS hormones?   

[Hoser]

I'd like the post of secretary washer.

Does that include the Secretary of State?    Hoser

[musclehead]

Palin is simply a diversion, and an easy target for ridicule.  They don't seek her out, as much as she puts herself out there and makes a fool of herself.  Somehow, she has developed a self-important attitude, and the news media seem to enjoy letting her expose her foolishness.

they (the media) were chasing her bus around like a bunch hormone filled teenagers chasing the prettiest girl in town. I'm sure they were seeking her out.  I'm thinking the diversion is on the other side.  we'll see............

A better analogy would be a gang of bullies following around a self-absorbed prima donna who doesn't realize she's not nearly as smart or informed as she thinks she is, as she prances around trying to show off, only to come off looking silly.

we see the same thing different ways, what a shock eh?
it'd be a boring world otherwise.............

[musclehead]

Willow gets my vote, i'd like a czar position of nuttin' important.  put me in charge of anything major league and I'll have to work too hard   

So you're a political Democrat? 

Sorry, couldn't resist it.

dang my true stripes are showing 

[musclehead]

I'd like the post of secretary washer.

Does that include the Secretary of State?    Hoser

thats one of the most unflattering pics of hillary I've ever seen 

[RoadKill]

we are being told over and over again that Palin is 'unelectable'

so why is the media and others on the left spending so much time and effort (still) trying to destroy her?

not my question, I heard it on the conservo-talko-sphere, but its a valid one.  why don't they start attacking Pawlenty or Cain or Santorem with more vigor?  or Paul? (didn't want to leave him out  )

They all all unelectable if you listen to the media....BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT DEMOCRATS

Except Romney, Republican is just another one of his lies. The media sees that and that makes him VERY electable in their eyes. 

[Walküre]

Oh well, they are eating their own...Ed Rollins, on the Bachmann-Palin-Underwhelm....

"Sarah has not been serious over the last couple of years," Rollins said. "She got the vice presidential thing handed to her. She didn't go to work in the sense of trying to gain more substance. She gave up her governorship."

Bachmann, he said, is the more established GOP candidate; he called  her the 2012 field's "best communicator" since Mike Huckabee decided to skip the race.

"Michele Bachmann and others [have] worked hard, she has been a leader of the tea party, which is a very important element here," he said.  "She has been an attorney. She has done important things with family values."

Gonna be a fun year!!

R

[x]

we are being told over and over again that Palin is 'unelectable'

The reason the press is telling you over and over again that she is unelectable is because she IS unelectable.  The majority of Americans see through airheads, and Palin mightily qualifies for that title.  She has amply demonstrated her ignorance of foreign affairs, economic policy, and diplomacy.  She's going to make it to Europe for the first time ever, and her 'heroine', Margaret Thatcher won't even meet with her.
 
If they told you otherwise, you'd accuse them of lying.

I disagree with other posters.  Being a 'wife, mother, and hunter' doesn't mean sh*t when talking about the Presidency.  She proves she is not to be trusted to serve because she simply quit her governorship when the going got rough.  Who needs that in a Prez?

[ArmyValker]

She's unelectable to me because every time I listen to her talk, I throw up a little bit. Even when I agree with the words coming out of her mouth, I still just wanna hit the mute button.

[Jack]

She's unelectable to me because every time I listen to her talk, I throw up a little bit. Even when I agree with the words coming out of her mouth, I still just wanna hit the mute button.

+1  'nuff said!

[solo1]

IMO, the present POTUS didn't qualify either for the requirements of the position.  Maybe I should reword that.  There are no requirements other than age, being a citizen of the US, and residing in the US for 14 years.  Obama met those requirements.  However, his experience was, and is still sadly lacking, his personal agenda shows through. All this is my opinion, my opinion won't change,

Palin, I agree, is not presidential material.   Neither are there any, in my opinion, that could discharge the full duties of the President as envisioned by out founders.  Gingrich probably knows more about the Constitution and the history of the US than the others but he has baggage.  All the others fail also in some ways or another.

These days, it seems to me, that the parties, both Dems, and Repubs, have only one goal.  Win election and reelection.  The nation comes last.

[G-Man]

Neither are there any, in my opinion, that could discharge the full duties of the President as envisioned by out founders. 

I gotta tweak this a bit.......As the Founders envisioned, the "main" branch of gov't was to be the legislative branch.  Yes, I know, checks and balances are built in, but the Senate and Congress are representatives of the people.  The local folks knew who they were, so they were true representatives and law makers.  The position of the President, who was probably unknown (due to the limited communication and travel resources) to the majority of voters, was to be the facilitator of what the representatives enacted.  This also limited the power of just one person as he was pretty much the office secretary. This has morphed over time to practically reverse the roles because this society likes to have figureheads.  One person to blame when things don't go so well.  Also, due to the advancment of the media, the president is now in everyones livingroom all the time, so more people know him than know their local reps.   

[ArmyValker]

These days, it seems to me, that the parties, both Dems, and Repubs, have only one goal.  Win election and reelection.  The nation comes last.

Exactly.

[solo1]

Neither are there any, in my opinion, that could discharge the full duties of the President as envisioned by out founders. 

I gotta tweak this a bit.......As the Founders envisioned, the "main" branch of gov't was to be the legislative branch.  Yes, I know, checks and balances are built in, but the Senate and Congress are representatives of the people.  The local folks knew who they were, so they were true representatives and law makers.  The position of the President, who was probably unknown (due to the limited communication and travel resources) to the majority of voters, was to be the facilitator of what the representatives enacted.  This also limited the power of just one person as he was pretty much the office secretary. This has morphed over time to practically reverse the roles because this society likes to have figureheads.  One person to blame when things don't go so wel
 Also, due to the advancment of the media, the president is now in everyones livingroom all the time, so more people know him than know their local reps.   
[/quote)

I agree up to a point.  In the Constitution, the President expressly has veto power over the Legislative branch, this puts him above a mere ' office secretary'

Also, the Constitution is silent but I'm sure that the founders did not have in mind representatives and Senators serving term after term after term and making serving a lifelong career.

[musclehead]

we are being told over and over again that Palin is 'unelectable'

so why is the media and others on the left spending so much time and effort (still) trying to destroy her?

not my question, I heard it on the conservo-talko-sphere, but its a valid one.  why don't they start attacking Pawlenty or Cain or Santorem with more vigor?  or Paul? (didn't want to leave him out  )

They all all unelectable if you listen to the media....BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT DEMOCRATS

Except Romney, Republican is just another one of his lies. The media sees that and that makes him VERY electable in their eyes. 

watch them, the harder they rip on the potential candidates on the right the better equiped they will be to turn the country around.

a big red flag went off when Huckabee was on the view and those ladies said "I could vote for you as president"

[musclehead]

Oh well, they are eating their own...Ed Rollins, on the Bachmann-Palin-Underwhelm....

"Sarah has not been serious over the last couple of years," Rollins said. "She got the vice presidential thing handed to her. She didn't go to work in the sense of trying to gain more substance. She gave up her governorship."

Bachmann, he said, is the more established GOP candidate; he called  her the 2012 field's "best communicator" since Mike Huckabee decided to skip the race.

"Michele Bachmann and others [have] worked hard, she has been a leader of the tea party, which is a very important element here," he said.  "She has been an attorney. She has done important things with family values."

Gonna be a fun year!!

R

  she's been a leader IN the TEA party not of the tea party. its a headless grass roots assembly of dang near everbody.....

[Bama Red]

I'd like the post of secretary washer.

Does that include the Secretary of State?    Hoser

thats one of the most unflattering pics of hillary I've ever seen 

You don't seriously mean that there are flattering photos of the Hildebeast, do you??

[x]

she's been a leader IN the TEA party not of the tea party. its a headless grass roots assembly of dang near everbody.....

"Dang near everybody" subscribing to a mindless ideology that would bring this country down to prove a point... the clowns in Congress unwilling to raise the debt ceiling provide one obvious example.

[RainMaker]

I'd like the post of secretary washer.

Does that include the Secretary of State?    Hoser

thats one of the most unflattering pics of hillary I've ever seen 

You don't seriously mean that there are flattering photos of the Hildebeast, do you??

I don't agree with her politics, but can't argue about her smarts and her service to the country.

And I think this is a great picture of Mrs. Clinton:

[G-Man]

Neither are there any, in my opinion, that could discharge the full duties of the President as envisioned by out founders. 

I gotta tweak this a bit.......As the Founders envisioned, the "main" branch of gov't was to be the legislative branch.  Yes, I know, checks and balances are built in, but the Senate and Congress are representatives of the people.  The local folks knew who they were, so they were true representatives and law makers.  The position of the President, who was probably unknown (due to the limited communication and travel resources) to the majority of voters, was to be the facilitator of what the representatives enacted.  This also limited the power of just one person as he was pretty much the office secretary. This has morphed over time to practically reverse the roles because this society likes to have figureheads.  One person to blame when things don't go so wel
 Also, due to the advancment of the media, the president is now in everyones livingroom all the time, so more people know him than know their local reps.   
[/quote)

I agree up to a point.  In the Constitution, the President expressly has veto power over the Legislative branch, this puts him above a mere ' office secretary'

Also, the Constitution is silent but I'm sure that the founders did not have in mind representatives and Senators serving term after term after term and making serving a lifelong career.

Agreed!

[fudgie]

we are being told over and over again that Palin is 'unelectable'

so why is the media and others on the left spending so much time and effort (still) trying to destroy her?

not my question, I heard it on the conservo-talko-sphere, but its a valid one.  why don't they start attacking Pawlenty or Cain or Santorem with more vigor?  or Paul? (didn't want to leave him out  )

They all all unelectable if you listen to the media....BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT DEMOCRATS

Except Romney, Republican is just another one of his lies. The media sees that and that makes him VERY electable in their eyes. 

No Rommney here. He signed a 'assualt weapons' ban in MA.

[fudgie]

Maybe they say she is unelectable because they are afraid she will win. They said Obama was the right person for the job........ 

[x]

Maybe they say she is unelectable because they are afraid she will win. They said Obama was the right person for the job........ 

No, they say she is unelectable because she IS unelectable.  The President, on the other hand, was clearly electable, and looks like a strong candidate for a second term, given the bumbling of GOP regulars and the downright scary ideologue politics of Tea Party fanatics.

[fudgie]

Maybe they say she is unelectable because they are afraid she will win. They said Obama was the right person for the job........ 

No, they say she is unelectable because she IS unelectable.  The President, on the other hand, was clearly electable, and looks like a strong candidate for a second term, given the bumbling of GOP regulars and the downright scary ideologue politics of Tea Party fanatics.

I guess your right.

What are the scary politics of the tea party? Being seirous, I hate and dont follow politics.

[x]

Maybe they say she is unelectable because they are afraid she will win. They said Obama was the right person for the job........ 

No, they say she is unelectable because she IS unelectable.  The President, on the other hand, was clearly electable, and looks like a strong candidate for a second term, given the bumbling of GOP regulars and the downright scary ideologue politics of Tea Party fanatics.

I guess your right.

What are the scary politics of the tea party? Being seirous, I hate and dont follow politics.

Fudgie,

I see Tea Party tactics as a complete unwillingness to compromise.  Any rational person realizes that no matter what happens next with respect to budget cuts, the debt ceiling must be increased.  The consequences of not doing so are dire, not the least of which would be the destruction of the US dollar as the world's reserve currency.
 
But because we have 70 odd Republican Tea Party type Congresscritters who are so single issue, they would put the financial stability of this country at serious risk, to attempt to drive through unsustainable budget cuts, which oddly enough, don't include the military.
 
These are the same people that attempt to attach social legislation... killing of Planned Parenthood funds, for example, with the threat of vetoing larger, necessary spending bills, because of ideology... they risk the operations of the government to promote an ideological cause.

Very dangerous people... whether on the left or the right.  Right now, the Republicans have a serious problem with their fringe right... House Speaker John Boehner has no idea how to deal with these people.

[Serk]

In some situations, there is no room for compromise.

You can argue the validity of it, but if one perceives that the nation is driving up to the edge of a cliff at full speed, a compromise would mean letting off the gas a little bit so we go over the cliff a few seconds later.

Some times you can't compromise, ya' need to take your foot off the accelerator and slam on the brakes as hard as you can, hoping against hope that you've acted fast enough and strong enough to stop from going over the edge of the cliff.

That's why they're unwilling to compromise.

And yes, I realize in your opinion it's just the opposite, I understand that, even if I disagree with it. You believe we're doing just fine, and the Tea Party wants to drive full speed off the edge of that cliff. That's where our differences lie.

On the other issue, I agree with you fully. Social issues should be removed from this, and IMHO if "they" keep trying they're going to tear the "Tea Party" apart. There's the "Christian Conservative" branch and the "Libertarian who's glad to finally be getting elected, even if under the guise of something else" branch. I'm firmly in the second, and if the first part pulls too many of their stunts, I'm outta there...

[x]

In some situations, there is no room for compromise.

Quite possibly so... but the debt ceiling is not one of those situations.  These people screw with the economic health of 300 million American, the US government, and the world economy at large, because of a myopic view of "how things should work".  Truly dangerous people... can only hope that they get voted back out as quickly as they got voted in.

[G-Man]

I hate having to reply to something strong eagle posts, but AGAIN, he is giving you misinformation.

The Right is NOT against raising the debt ceiling.  They are against raising it,....without including budget cuts that would offset the raise.  The left conveniently leaves this little piece out when vomiting their garbage.  Obama wants to increase the ceiling AND increase spending, oh sorry, investments 

The left has a way of presenting things as being black or white when there is all different colors of gray in the mix.  They want to push granny over the cliff, they don't want to raise the debt ceiling, and all of the other bogus "slogans" the left loves to use to make folks fear the right. 

You see, most, and I do mean most, things that the left are for and the right "won't compromise" on are the bills that have Bullcrap riders or addendums attached to them.  And thank goodness.  Remember when there weren't enough Repubs to stop them.....we got a stimulus package, with 8,000 earmarks (that he said he'd never allow) that has thus far failed and a tripling of the national debt in less than 2 years.  Unemployment went UP over 2 points and has not come down and foreclosures continue at record pace.  I know, they should have spent more, only more would have gone to save another mouse at 3 million or for windows at a different abandoned train station for 2 million, etc.

[BigAl]

Willow as Prez.

SmokinJoe Vice Prez

Oss Secretary of State

Strong Eagle Cheif of Staff

Sludge Dept of the Interior

Bobbo Press Secretary

Big AL Dept of Defense

Stanley Steamer CIA

G-Man FBI Director

Roadkill Dept of Energy(Nukes and Stuff)